'Haunted Skies' - British UFO Research.

Pretty awesome series of interviews with former Police Officer John Hanson citing some of the lesser known historical British UFO reports from his co-authored series of books 'Haunted Skies'.


• The last compilation video was taken down by YouTube rather quick so probably best to download just in case.

"This is the first of a ground-breaking new series compiled by former Police Officer John Hanson and his partner Dawn Holloway, together with David Sankey, a veteran UFO researcher and artist. The multi-part series covers British UFO sightings from 1940 to the present day. This first volume deals with UFO reports from 1940-1959; nineteen tumultuous years during which Britain won a war, lost an empire, buried a king, crowned a queen, and saw a new breed of consumer prosperity rise from the ashes of post-war austerity.

People who have followed the UFO subject in any depth will not be surpised to discover that the UFOs encountered during these two decades follow the socio-political changes of the people who witnessed them to a remarkable degree. Haunted Skies is the most ambitious series of books ever attempted in the history of ufology, and will - no doubt - provide a new benchmark in the quality of such publications."


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Lots (and lots) of extremely strange reports including witness Nigel Frapple describing the very strange object he encountered in 1954 ..he also goes on to explain how two 'MIBs' visited his home and threatened him about keeping quiet (stating that "You will be taken to a place and you won't be coming home again").

Also quite a compelling one where a retired 'UFO sceptic' Police Officer went fishing on a river and witnessed a daylight close range metallic, saucer shaped object sucking up water - some strange temporal goings on reported and apparently during the sighting his bait maggots pupated into casters (which should have taken 2 days) - after being questioned by the MOD he also started receiving threatening phone calls.

There's also this mighty fine thread from Kandinsky which goes into further detail about the research and is well worth a look.

In this thread, the main ones are John Hanson and Dawn Holloway. They’ve been working away at the coal-face of local UFO news reports for years, amassing a large collection of clippings, images and interviews with some of the witnesses. Without their work, most of these incidents would have faded away as the witness’ memories re-evaluated or embellished them into distortions.



Quiet Guys and Three Mince Pies

a reply to: karl 12

Superb addition to the site, a huge video though and I have only watched 46 minutes so far.

a reply to: karl 12

Good sleuthing-S&F.

May I suggest Nick Pope's 'the uninvited' he was assigned to investigate UFO and abductions by the MOD, the research was measured and thorough.

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: karl 12

Superb addition to the site, a huge video though and I have only watched 46 minutes so far.

Happy watching mate.

originally posted by: Thecakeisalie

May I suggest Nick Pope

Hi there Thecakeisalie - Pope denies he's a shill in this video but I know a lot of folks suspect he's still on the MOD payroll.



Thought researcher Matthew Williams did make some great points in this presentation though about the exposure of DI55 UFO investigations through authenticated government documentation (and how MPs were blatantly lied to in the Houses of Parliament). 

Likewise the late Graham Birdsall also made some important points about the DI55 department and the recipients of specific UFO documentation in this presentation - he also mentions receiving threats from specific agencies.

Cheers.

a reply to: karl 12

Nick pope is a great but remember the whole concept of controlled information he would never tell you something he was told not too as he being a former member of the intelligence community is still under the official secret's act and will be for the rest of his life.

Not quite on the same subject but definitely linked if you ever have time look for a book called The Hunt for Zero Point by Nick Cook.


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Thanks to Karl for a healthy dose of comfort vid-watching during the lockdown.

And yeah, downloading it seems a wise option.


for a reply to: LABTECH767

Speaking of Mr Cook, in 2005 he presented one of THE best UFO documentaries I have ever seen, especially if Operation Paperclip tickles your fancy...

[EDIT: Oh, you did include it as the second video in your post; just a different version. Oops.]

I think folklore specialist Dr David Clarke also makes an appearance from what I recall.

a reply to: karl 12

Some quality viewing on this thread, and in maintaining it and because you mentioned the late Graham Birdsall, this thread isn't complete without one of the best UFO series ever made:



Some excellent stuff in those episodes, and although it's aged in quality, the stories are still there

a reply to: LABTECH767

Thanks for the vids mate and that book's been on the 'to do' list for quite some time now - didn't realise he worked for Jane's Defence Weekly and he does seem like quite a level headed chap (for a journalist anyway).

And Nick Cook seems to realise that too.  The first hint of that came when watching the uncomfortable reaction of British sceptics Andy Roberts and Dave Clarke to his gentle questioning.  They were not amongst friends, one could judge.

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Don't know if you can call Andy Roberts a 'sceptic' but he does pop up in this vid trying to sell a pretty lame debunk of the Alan Godfrey case - the incident was also looked into by Haunted Skies author John Hanson and (to my mind) still remains a great mystery.





Similar aspects to Alan's experience are also present in the Deverow
case from Yorkshire in 2005 and the Wood case from Edinburgh in 1992 - god knows what's going on.

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

Ha don't know if the reality of British airspace being routinely penetrated by completely unknown flying objects is 'comforting' mate but good to see you and appreciate the post.

"Here we had a number of object seen coming in across the North Sea on coastal radar. It looked like a Russian mistake. Jet aircraft were scrambled. The objects were travelling at quite impossible speeds like 4-5000 mph and then came to an abrupt halt near to one of these stations not very high up. Jet aircraft picked them up on aircraft radar. The objects then simply made rings round them." 

Ralph Noyes,Senior Official with British Air Ministry - retired as Under Secretary of State in 1977

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Always found this 1952 case from Gloucestershire pretty fascinating as the pilots witnessed three disc shaped objects fly over the cockpit of their aircraft (which were also plotted on ground radar).

See 4:30

Sounds nearly identical to this case from Mexico in 1975.

a reply to: Zcustosmorum

Thanks for posting that doc mate, remember watching it many moons ago and nice to see Police Sgt. Anthony Dodd on there - here's what he said about the object he witnessed with Constable Alan Dale on the Yorkshire Moors in 1978.

"It had a dome with ports all around it. The bottom was surrounded by colored lights like neon lights in blue, red, green and white which blinked in a sequence as if they were rotating, and in the middle there were three spheres or hemispheres." 

Police Constable Anthony Dodd

Always intriguing to see which research videos get routinely deleted and there"s some extremely strange and lesser known British UFO incidents also being described in the vids below by David Cayton.

He describes one case where a huge UFO was filmed by security cameras and seen by five engineers over Padiham Power station in Lancashire and another where a huge object was observed over the radio dish at Jodrell bank (also another freaky one of a massive black triangle over the Cheshire countryside).

Part 2 seems to have gone missing (again) but someone re-uploaded the rest.

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Follow up interview:

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originally posted by: Thecakeisalie
a reply to: karl 12

Good sleuthing-S&F.

May I suggest Nick Pope's 'the uninvited' he was assigned to investigate UFO and abductions by the MOD, the research was measured and thorough.

Sorry but Pope was not assigned to do anything of the sort, the MOD through Air Staff 2A (of which Pope headed for 3 years) did not investigate any cases.

There may well have been investigations behind the scenes (DI55) but if so Pope was out of the loop.

Doesn't necessarily have any impact on Pope as an author but don't think his MOD background gave him access to anything juicy.

originally posted by: chunder
There may well have been investigations behind the scenes (DI55) but if so Pope was out of the loop.

Well said and apparently his AIRSEC2A group was right at the bottom of the hierarchical set up - UFO documents released under the Public Information And Records Act back from the 1960's do show that the Provost And Security Service investigated UFOs though.

Always interesting to note the reaction of officialdom when it comes to UFOs and there's an incident described here where the British MOD document was so sensitive that "an extra three years was added to its 25 year release date" - another sighting here (possibly involving Pope disinfo) where the MOD broke with all official protocol when reporting and investigating it.

Don't think Bruni was on the payroll and in the co-authored article below it's mentioned how the Operation Mainbrace UFO incidents caused the RAF to 'officially recognize' the UFO subject and other UFO cases forced the MOD to 'rethink and then reverse its policy' - it also states that two Air Ministry Divisions were actively involved in investigating UFO sightings (S6 and DDI).

Commentary on DSI/JTIC Report No 7:

In chapter 17 Ruppelt reveals that even after he had left Project Blue Book and the USAF, friends in RAF intelligence kept him informed about latest developments, on a private basis.

Another indication of the strong US influence on the Flying Saucer Working Party is the fact that their June 1951 final report was entitled Unidentified Flying Objects. This term had been devised by Ruppelt himself, early in 1951, but was not at the time in use outside US Government circles.

..The Flying Saucer Working Party had been dissolved in 1951 amidst a frenzy of scepticism that had clearly been fuelled by the Americans. The response that Churchill received to his 1952 enquiry showed that the sceptics still had the upper hand within the MOD. But this was soon to change.During the period 1952 to 1957 there were a series of UFO sightings involving the military, which forced the MOD to rethink and then reverse its policy. These included sightings during Operation Mainbrace in September 1952 (including those at RAF Topcliffe), the West Malling incident on 3 November 1953, Flight Lieutenant Salandin’s near-collision with a UFO on 14 October 1954, the Lakenheath/Bentwaters radar/visual sightings on 13 and 14 August 1956 and the RAF West Freugh incident on 4 April 1957.

High-profile sightings such as these, together with the increasing number of reports from the general public, pushed the sceptics within MOD onto the defensive. The Flying Saucer Working Party’s recommendation that UFO sightings should not be investigated was overturned and by the mid-Fifties two Air Ministry Divisions were actively involved in investigating UFO sightings. The divisions concerned were S6, a civilian secretariat division on the air staff, and DDI(Tech), a technical intelligence division. Their brief was to research and investigate the UFO phenomenon looking for evidence of any threat to the UK.

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Cheers.

More info on Flight Lieutenant Salandin’s UFO experience which forced the MOD to rethink and then reverse its policy - the RAF Officer also gives a telephone interview with John Hanson found in the main video.

RAF Sightings: Huge, Round,Metallic, Incredibly Fast


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British authorities have received reports from trained observers, including RAF pilots, and the Air Ministry maintains a UFO investigation project which parallels Project Blue Book in the United states. Reuters reported one such aerial encounter on September 20, 1952:

"A flying saucer entered the eight-nation Baltic area maneuver headquarters that an unidentifiable silver circular object had been sighted 15,000 feet above the airfield. The object, which appeared five miles behind a Meteor jet fighter (piloted by Lt. John W. Kilburn), maintained a slow forward speed before descending in a swinging pendulum motion. Then it began a rotary motion about its own axis and accelerated at an incredible speed in a westerly direction but later turned southeast. It was seen by RAF officers and men on the airfield."

Another RAF pilot encountered a UFO October 4, 1954. Flight Lt. J. R. Salandin of the 604th Fighter Squadron, flying a Meteor jet out of North Weald, Essex, nearly collided head-on with a huge, metallic-appearing object. The UFO was shaped like two saucers pressed together, one inverted on top of the other. At the last second, it flipped to one side and streaked past a tremendous speed. Two round UFO's had been sighted speeding between two other Meteor jets in the vincinity just before Lt. Salandin's sighting.

The True Report On Flying Saucers

UFO encounters RAF Meteor jet

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: karl 12

Not quite on the same subject but definitely linked if you ever have time look for a book called The Hunt for Zero Point by Nick Cook.

Good new thread here by kiro8lak mate featuring a recent interview with the chap.

Project Unity Interview with Nick Cooke

originally posted by: chunder

Sorry but Pope was not assigned to do anything of the sort, the MOD through Air Staff 2A (of which Pope headed for 3 years) did not investigate any cases..

Couldn't agree more mate and there's a relevant MM thread here about the chap.


Nick Pope – Twenty Five Years Taking the UAPee?

a reply to: karl 12 Phillip mantle is having another moan about nick pope on social media, because pope was in a new ufo program on channel 5 over Xmas telling big porkies about his job at mod.

a reply to: wobbs62

The problem with Nick Pope is that he's prone to exaggerating his lowly role as a Civil Service desk officer. He was a grade above entry level in the civil service. So a job which included handling calls from the press and public became 'investigating UFOs' and interviewing witnesses. He even debunked himself over his telling of the Cosford Case in 1993 once the MoD release files in the 2000s!

But this job that he held between 1991 & 1994 and his self created title of "Head of the MoD UFO Desk" allowed him to work the mainstream media circuit with an air of perceived authority, if nothing else, allowing him to spout soundbites. He's since taken his 'Pontificating' to the USA where the where there is a much higher preponderance of gullible and credulous people than his native UK to become a UFOtainer. Which is fine for those who treat the topic as entertainment too. But it's also the reason why his and other UFO books are classified under "Religion, Spirituality, New Age or the Occult" and not history.

Nick hasn't [yet] embraced the crazy world of woofology that seems to infect many other UFOtainers at certain point in their career. But he prefers to preserve a mystery by omission of detail [eg the Cosford Case] and to my knowledge has never actually solved a UFO case or offered up information that isn't already available elsewhere.

a reply to: mirageman that's why he went to live in the States, realised that's where the mugs and the money was, plus people were starting to question his credentials ( Dr, David Clarke) in Britain regarding his claim of being head of Britain's ufo project.

a reply to: wobbs62

No. He got married.

Wonder if John Hanson will continue to use Nick Pope to help promote his books. So many do. Philip is still on his Nick Pope bender too, only we are in a different year. Wonder when he will stop publishing books that are laced with all things Nick Pope. It's a vicious circle 🔴.

a reply to: Baablacksheep that maybe the case but far more money to be made in the state's, Hanson's star quality has dropped since he got involved with colonel clink, the whole lot of them are a joke, all money and ego oriented.