Elderly Abortion is OK?

a reply to: JAGStorm

There used to be a Doctor Kevorkian. He ended the lives of elderly people. Thankfully, elderly people are generally very wise and can choose their own path.

The beautiful little almost-born human babies that Democrats allow to be murdered so easily, don't get a get a say. It's tragic.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: JAGStorm

There used to be a Doctor Kevorkian. He ended the lives of elderly people. Thankfully, elderly people are generally very wise and can choose their own path.

The beautiful little almost-born human babies that Democrats allow to be murdered so easily, don't get a get a say. It's tragic.

That’s it, they can’t choose their own path if not given the choice, like a respirator, or a bed. The whole purpose of quarantine is to flatten the curve and give more people a fighting chance.

originally posted by: MRinder
a reply to: JAGStorm

How is dying from catching a virus the same as abortion? A virus is nature weeding out the weak

By *allowing* someone to die when they can be treated/saved .......

A virus is not particular on age of victims it is equally cruel to any age group.

and abortion is murdering a perfectly healthy child because you are inconvenienced by it. Just asking

The perfectly healthy child is now a perfectly healthy adult due to the diligency

of the now frail elderly adult.....which they are willingly prepared to abort

sacrifice because they have now become inconvenient to their successful lifestyle?

originally posted by: Edumakated
The reality is you can't protect everyone. People die. That is a fact of life. Some people die of natural causes. Some die from terrible accidents and other screwed up circumstances.

This shut down has cost us TRILLIONS. This is insanity.

It would have been far easier to just tell the elderly to use caution and shelter in place if possible. Far cheaper to have stores, businesses, etc take extra steps to ensure people aren't spreading germs around. Hand washing stations. More sanitizer.

30,000 people die every year in car accidents. We could reduce that number to zero if people just walked everywhere. Of course, we know not driving is not a solution. We accept that some people might die. It doesn't prevent people from driving 80mph on the freeway while yucking it up on bluetooth.

It’s cost us TRILLIONS of made up paper money. Whooptie doo! If we are all losing money, isn’t that similar to none of us losing money? Who exactly are losing these trillions. If someone loses trillions that must mean that someone else is making trillions, no? So how is this, in any way, more important than the lives of the 4-10% of infected that will die? The economy is NOT as important as people’s lives. You are a very good example of everything that is wrong with the western world today.

originally posted by: MRinder
a reply to: JAGStorm

How is dying from catching a virus the same as abortion? A virus is nature weeding out the weak and abortion is murdering a perfectly healthy child because you are inconvenienced by it. Just asking

I think what you're looking for is "false equivalency". Just like giving everyone a stimulus check during a pandemic that shut the economy down is "communism". There's been large number of really stupid people trying to draw these equivalencies during this time.

originally posted by: pexx421

originally posted by: Edumakated
The reality is you can't protect everyone. People die. That is a fact of life. Some people die of natural causes. Some die from terrible accidents and other screwed up circumstances.

This shut down has cost us TRILLIONS. This is insanity.

It would have been far easier to just tell the elderly to use caution and shelter in place if possible. Far cheaper to have stores, businesses, etc take extra steps to ensure people aren't spreading germs around. Hand washing stations. More sanitizer.

30,000 people die every year in car accidents. We could reduce that number to zero if people just walked everywhere. Of course, we know not driving is not a solution. We accept that some people might die. It doesn't prevent people from driving 80mph on the freeway while yucking it up on bluetooth.

It’s cost us TRILLIONS of made up paper money. Whooptie doo! If we are all losing money, isn’t that similar to none of us losing money? Who exactly are losing these trillions. If someone loses trillions that must mean that someone else is making trillions, no? So how is this, in any way, more important than the lives of the 4-10% of infected that will die? The economy is NOT as important as people’s lives. You are a very good example of everything that is wrong with the western world today.

Go tell that people who saw half their retirement or jobs wiped out over the course of a couple of weeks due to this hysteria.... it is just paper money.

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: pexx421

originally posted by: Edumakated
The reality is you can't protect everyone. People die. That is a fact of life. Some people die of natural causes. Some die from terrible accidents and other screwed up circumstances.

This shut down has cost us TRILLIONS. This is insanity.

It would have been far easier to just tell the elderly to use caution and shelter in place if possible. Far cheaper to have stores, businesses, etc take extra steps to ensure people aren't spreading germs around. Hand washing stations. More sanitizer.

30,000 people die every year in car accidents. We could reduce that number to zero if people just walked everywhere. Of course, we know not driving is not a solution. We accept that some people might die. It doesn't prevent people from driving 80mph on the freeway while yucking it up on bluetooth.

It’s cost us TRILLIONS of made up paper money. Whooptie doo! If we are all losing money, isn’t that similar to none of us losing money? Who exactly are losing these trillions. If someone loses trillions that must mean that someone else is making trillions, no? So how is this, in any way, more important than the lives of the 4-10% of infected that will die? The economy is NOT as important as people’s lives. You are a very good example of everything that is wrong with the western world today.

Go tell that people who say half their retirement or jobs wiped out over the course of a couple of weeks due to this hysteria.... it is just paper money.

It's just 'paper money'... that you need to buy food with to survive. That person does not understand how the economy works, if it crashes we'll have a lot more problems than the virus. Imagine the looting and general chaos that will ensue. If this destroys the economy, it will destroy much more than 4-10% of america.

originally posted by: Tekner

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: pexx421

originally posted by: Edumakated
The reality is you can't protect everyone. People die. That is a fact of life. Some people die of natural causes. Some die from terrible accidents and other screwed up circumstances.

This shut down has cost us TRILLIONS. This is insanity.

It would have been far easier to just tell the elderly to use caution and shelter in place if possible. Far cheaper to have stores, businesses, etc take extra steps to ensure people aren't spreading germs around. Hand washing stations. More sanitizer.

30,000 people die every year in car accidents. We could reduce that number to zero if people just walked everywhere. Of course, we know not driving is not a solution. We accept that some people might die. It doesn't prevent people from driving 80mph on the freeway while yucking it up on bluetooth.

It’s cost us TRILLIONS of made up paper money. Whooptie doo! If we are all losing money, isn’t that similar to none of us losing money? Who exactly are losing these trillions. If someone loses trillions that must mean that someone else is making trillions, no? So how is this, in any way, more important than the lives of the 4-10% of infected that will die? The economy is NOT as important as people’s lives. You are a very good example of everything that is wrong with the western world today.

Go tell that people who say half their retirement or jobs wiped out over the course of a couple of weeks due to this hysteria.... it is just paper money.

It's just 'paper money'... that you need to buy food with to survive. That person does not understand how the economy works, if it crashes we'll have a lot more problems than the virus. Imagine the looting and general chaos that will ensue. If this destroys the economy, it will destroy much more than 4-10% of america.

Exactly...

a reply to: JAGStorm
To all who claimed Obama Care was a death panel for Gramps and dear ol Gramma..it's fascinating to see some of those very voices caping for letem die for the sake of Evilcorp and Wall St
Smh.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: MRinder
a reply to: JAGStorm

How is dying from catching a virus the same as abortion? A virus is nature weeding out the weak and abortion is murdering a perfectly healthy child because you are inconvenienced by it. Just asking

No. Abortion is a host refusing to provide a safe and healthy environment for someone who would to be too expensive to maintain and who won't be working, just taking for years and years, should they have been born.

Right now, according to some, protecting the elderly is too expensive, and anyway, the elderly are expensive to maintain under good circumstances. Most aren't working, are takers with their disability and Social Security, and are not adding to the economy.

They should just suck it up and take one for team. FOR THE CHILDREN, FOR GOD"S SAKE!

They have worked for 55 plus years for that disability and social security. Are you insane. Yes. Yes you are. 50 plus years you'll be in the same shoes and you'll hear ungrateful younger generations saying the exact same thing. After slaving away for that retirement.

Disgusting human. Our elderly have EARNED it.

a reply to: TheGhoul

LOL

Calm down there, Spanky. I appreciate your passion, and I agree with you. I was portraying the arguments that I was seeing across the boards, the media and various interwebs. Not my opinion. But, I'm so glad it got you up in arms, as it should!

a reply to: Tekner

The economy, the money, wall street, all of it is just a tool humans created over the centuries.
It's all very much adaptable and flexible, giving way to its human masters when they see the need to bend and contort it to meet society's needs.
If a little virus, even this one manages to collapse it, it wont be because of the virus, or the human nature of self protection of it. It will be because the human masters used and abused the tools to meet their own selfish wants and desires.

originally posted by: Tekner

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: pexx421

originally posted by: Edumakated
The reality is you can't protect everyone. People die. That is a fact of life. Some people die of natural causes. Some die from terrible accidents and other screwed up circumstances.

This shut down has cost us TRILLIONS. This is insanity.

It would have been far easier to just tell the elderly to use caution and shelter in place if possible. Far cheaper to have stores, businesses, etc take extra steps to ensure people aren't spreading germs around. Hand washing stations. More sanitizer.

30,000 people die every year in car accidents. We could reduce that number to zero if people just walked everywhere. Of course, we know not driving is not a solution. We accept that some people might die. It doesn't prevent people from driving 80mph on the freeway while yucking it up on bluetooth.

It’s cost us TRILLIONS of made up paper money. Whooptie doo! If we are all losing money, isn’t that similar to none of us losing money? Who exactly are losing these trillions. If someone loses trillions that must mean that someone else is making trillions, no? So how is this, in any way, more important than the lives of the 4-10% of infected that will die? The economy is NOT as important as people’s lives. You are a very good example of everything that is wrong with the western world today.

Go tell that people who say half their retirement or jobs wiped out over the course of a couple of weeks due to this hysteria.... it is just paper money.

It's just 'paper money'... that you need to buy food with to survive. That person does not understand how the economy works, if it crashes we'll have a lot more problems than the virus. Imagine the looting and general chaos that will ensue. If this destroys the economy, it will destroy much more than 4-10% of america.

It’s only hysteria until it effects you. At any rate, the average business cycle is 11 years, so people should be used to seeing their 401k collapse that often. It’s the system we have been sold. If they don’t like it, maybe they should have bought a few rental properties rather than 401k for their retirement plan. Their bad decision. If it wasn’t the virus it would have been something else. Further, if given the choice between losing half their 401k or dying, which do you think they’d choose? Keep in mind that in our current system this is a choice many seniors face even without corona. And all that aside, this house of cards economic systems being more important to you guys than people’s lives shows what you value, and it’s inhumane and disgusting. “Sorry mom and dad, but if I pay your medical bills then my economic outlook for the future will be grim, so see you in our next incarnation!!”

Lastly if our fake economy works the way y’all believe, then supply and demand dictates this massive crash will result in a readjustment of prices commensurate with our soon to be lower economic ability. So yeah, we will have half as much money. Shouldn’t that mean that prices go down dramatically?? Not that I expect this to be the case, because your theories of economics are all lies to facilitate the transfer of money to the wealthy elite, but at least soon the lies of our paradigm will be laid bare, just as your lack of concern and value for human life and dignity currently are.

You are in dire need of a dictionary.

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: Drucifer

originally posted by: Nyiah
I can see why so many elderly find the "must protect the elderly at all costs" spiel to be so damned offensive.

Nobody's bothering to listen to them in the first place about their POV on all this. That's dismissive AF. For people who claim to want to do the right thing, maybe it's time to STFU and stop speaking for the ones you won't LET speak.

No one is silencing them.

Yeah they are, when the deafening concern trolling drowns out the people trying to speak for themselves. Many older members on here have put their two cents' worth forth about making virus & economy related choices for themselves, but I bet no one on this thread can name them. They're not exactly lurker members, either, we know these posters well.

Proving that no one is silencing anyone.

originally posted by: maria_stardust
a reply to: JAGStorm

They will only care once this disease kills someone they know and love. Until then it will continue to remain indifference.

:u p:

During the summer of 2003, thousands died all across Europe as a result of one of the worst heat waves to hit the Continent in 60 years. Most of the dead were elderly. Some had been left alone by relatives who went away on vacation. Still others reportedly were neglected or overlooked by overworked hospital and nursing home staff. The newspaper Le Parisien reported that in Paris alone, 450 corpses were left unclaimed. “In what kind of conditions are we living that we forget about our fathers, mothers, grandparents?” asked the paper about the situation of those who died alone and anonymous.

The Bible answers that question at 2 Timothy 3:1-5:

But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power; and from these turn away.

God’s Law, given to Moses, promoted respect for the elderly. The Law stated: “Before gray hair you should rise up, and you must show consideration for the person of an old man.” (Leviticus 19:32) The aged were thus to occupy a position of honor and were to be looked upon as valuable assets.​—Proverbs 16:31; 23:22.

During his ministry Jesus himself showed concern for elderly ones. He strongly condemned religious leaders who felt justified in neglecting their aged parents on account of their religious traditions. (Matthew 15:3-9)

In view of the above, it is clear that all those who want to honor God must also honor and value the elderly. Older ones are indeed precious in the eyes of our Creator. May they feel the same way about it, no matter what personal financial impact it may have; so that the labels “lovers of themselves” and “lovers of money” at least do not apply to them and they do not end up following in the footsteps of those religious leaders Jesus was addressing in his time. But rather in the footsteps of Jesus, becoming imitators of God (Eph 5:1):

So to all the people complaining about us selfish people who just want to work--can I count on you to feed my kids now that I've lost my career/job of 14 years?
Or better yet, I guess now I could go get a nice job as an essential worker and put my family and elderly parents even more at risk.