a reply to: Puppylove
Absolutely every country in the west lost it's self sufficiency entirely during the great corporate rip off of our nation's when private enterprise
was lured away by the cheap labor promised in the far east, this stripped our economy's of job's, impoverished our society's and left the majority of
our populace more poor than they otherwise would be, over the last 30 years at least the rate of pay in western factory job's has gone down in real
term's when compared to the rate of inflation in these country's.
This was severely exacerbated in nations such as the UK and other's were the selling off of state owned nationally important asset's such as
infrastructure, vital industry's that were either part of wholly owned and/or subsidized by western government's became fashionable from the 1980's
onward and caused an extreme rapid spiral downward in our real world capability's and self sufficiency - this MISTAKE as I regard it was used to spur
short term economic boosts and boom's that have had no real long term national value other than to divide our society's between the have's and the
The USA is a great model though, it was both large enough to be actually completely self sufficient and had industry that even without the occurrence
of the second world war was set to make it the greatest economic power house on the planet, it had no choice but to enter the war against Japan and
Nazi Germany but despite the mega boom it's new status as the most powerful nation in the world brought with it through the 50's and 60's the end
result of an unfettered capitalist system came to the inevitable fruition of greedy ultra rich elite basically owning almost everything in that nation
while the nation is actually it's people and the majority of those people are in real term's very poor, often even more poor than there European
counterpart's and ancestral relatives.
For a while though the US was the poster boy for the concept of protectionism, it worked very well BUT not well enough for the elite, however it
would have collapsed eventually due to the run away mechanic's of free market capitalism - if that capitalism was regulated though - and several US
president's did just that very thing - it would still be a viable system.
Look at the money trail to understand, who own's what, how does international money transfer and corporate secrecy hide the real power players and
how can a single man or even a family of such men and woman ever be allowed to control so much of the world when in fact when all thing's are said and
done they were fallible human being's that should never have been allowed to secretly rule so much of the world, then again US president's have been
assassinated for getting in the way of the money flow in the past.
Now do not get me wrong, I am actually AGAINST protectionism if it is too strong but a mild form of protectionism is actually a good thing,
government's keeping vital industry's within there own nation's and more or less under there control even if they are privately owned so that in
time's of crisis they can then be called upon to help out the nation,.
Government's willing to subsidize both for economic survivability in unfavorable international markets AND to reward major employers for creating and
maintaining decent paying job's in an economy,.
I am also a great proponent of a welfare system that pay's enough to live on to the poorest members of society and keep's them above the minimum
standard of acceptable life, they actually spend that money which they receive which then goes back into the retail and other commercial sector's
(kind of like an unofficial subsidy and investment by Government that they then make back and more through tax raised),.
This in turn stimulates job's in those sectors and maintain's them when otherwise they would collapse, a good example of the harm 'taking away' a
social safety net can do is the British Tory Part's universal credit, sanctioning and inhuman treatment of the unemployed in the UK,.
No sooner hand they CLAMPED down on the British welfare system than the high street's up and down the country started to bleed out through loss of
income and revenue,.
Shop's and even major retailer's closed, the supply and logistical job's that ran them, the imports and exports and the British production industry
and other industry's that also supplied them ALL began to fold and suffer economically as a consequence,.
The Tory's knew what they were doing but continued and combated people's attempts to stop this by trying to remove people's people's right's (even
going so far as to try to limit human right's in some, nay many cases or even outright ignore them AND so that they could not be taken to court they
cut Legal Aid (A national system of paying solicitors/lawyer's fee's for the poorest and therefore eligible in society in order to prevent those very
people there welfare reform's (actually counter welfare reform's and welfare abolitionism or stage one of it) were harming from prosecuting them and
even when people died of starvation in there own home's or on the streets' after being evicted because the Tory's Sanctioning system had cut all there
welfare they did not stop for one humane moment of reflection on there cruel policy.
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