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Earth 'will expire by 2050'

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posted on Nov, 1 2004 @ 09:22 PM
does any one belive in the "day after tomorrow" type scenario? another ice age to overcorrect global warming.

either way, we are screwed. we cant belive we can do all taking and polluting and not expect any repercutions. oh well might as well dig a hole.


posted on Nov, 2 2004 @ 01:04 AM
The world will not end in 2050. The year 2050 is wrong. Check out the facts more carefully.

posted on Nov, 2 2004 @ 01:10 AM
Anyway, if the situation becomes dire, we will immidiatly scrap coal and Nuke power plants and switch to solar, i mean, we allready got a fusion reactor, ITS CALLED TEH SUN

posted on Nov, 9 2004 @ 05:11 AM
Whats wrong with spreading to other planets and using all the resources there, and continually multiply and polluting the universe. Presuming the universe is infinate or even very very big
there should be more than enough resources to last us forever without bothering anyone else.
And if we all use alternative power sources (Hydro, nuclear, solar etc.) maybe we can get another few hundred years out of the planet. and by that time i cant imagine it bothering me, as i dont think i will be around in a few hundred years.

posted on Nov, 9 2004 @ 05:32 AM
The problem is that there's only half the amount of human activity-generated carbon dioxide in the atmosphere than there should be.

The rest has somehow 'disappeared'. Scientists believe that it is probably temporarily locked in deep ocean currents.

When these currents reach the surface again, and the CO2 is released into the atmosphere, we could be in for real problems.

Basically, we've made a timebomb for ourselves and this will go off over the next couple of hundreds of years even if we were to completely stop burning fossil fuels now.

posted on Nov, 9 2004 @ 01:37 PM
that is a very interesting article, but if we are forced to colonize, which planet will be forced to colonize???????

posted on Nov, 10 2004 @ 12:51 PM
I think the planet will adjust, meaning that humans will die off in such massive amounts, be it though plagues, starvation, ect. that the numbers will come down. Also, with the oil being used up at the rate we're using it, when it becomes scarce, so does food, water, electricity, and *people*.

The Earth will adjust, then start to heal itself. Humans will be all the wiser because of it.

posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 08:02 PM
Let's hope so. Or we're screwed and so is the universe.


posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 11:36 PM
Current doubling rate for global population is less than 40 yrs now that we have broken 6 billion.

The amount of available soil for growing grains, especially wheat, is rapidly diminishing and becoming unsuitable to grow even weeds. Remember the US drought of 99? When the price of a single loaf of bread doubled? If you think that was a punch in the gut, just wait. The farmers have yet to even recover.

The only way the human race will survive is through the untimely death of billions. Either we'll do it ourselves, or the planet will do it for us. I put my money on the former.

On another note regarding topics brought up... "The Day After Tomorrow" scenario is activist nonsense. The North Atlantic Conveyer current, as it's called, primarily only affects Europe's climate. The desalination of the oceans causing instability in this current and its eventual total shutdown (little shutdowns happen all the time, every year or so, and are recorded and fully documented) would have little impact on North America and Asia, and none on Africa.

Also, if the dino's hadnt been wiped out by a big hunk of rock, they would have progressed to the form of intelligent bipedal reptiles millions of years ago. It was the mass extinction that allowed mammals to grab hold. I wonder what they would have done when faced with our dilemma... probably eaten eachother!

That's what we need to do!! Sloppy Joe's anyone?

> I highly recommend picking up a copy of When Technology Fails: A Manual for Self-Reliance & Planetary Survival by Matthew Stein. An excellent book for the modern survivalist, because when the system breaks down and people start dieing, the only person you can rely on to keep you alive is yourself.

> Another note from topics brought up... if you're a US citizen and expecting some new amazing energy source or fuel to emerge to save us all, keep dreaming. The US economy is based largely on the oildollar. Every oil barrel transaction on the planet is in US dollars, meaning we (the US) gets a cut. Eliminate these transactions, and our economy goes bye bye. This is why so many things have been shoved under the carpet, from widespread fuel cell development to marijuana/hemp.. if an alternative actually became mainstream, our entire nation would collapse in on itself, likely triggering global conflict (if it hasn't already begun) thanks to the interdependance of economies.

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posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 11:48 PM
chemtrails do it for us (shurgs)

then a big WWIII yup that'll help

posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 02:06 AM
yep the year is right maybe 3 billion dead to what some are saying right now.others will have to deal with the plague and of course what ever dumb wars are still going down.its gonna be a fun planet to live on hold and get our popcorn the fun stuff is just about to start.flukemol........

posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 04:02 AM
To ask Humans to not grow is simply imposable. It's the Human in us that makes us need more and more...

I say we help evolution along a bit and alter our DNA...

Change what we need....

Humans are arrogant if they think they are the pinnacle of Evolution. We have a choice and our future selves will not be human at all....

this is not a time for a knee jerk reaction or to be scared... our future selves will look back at us and hold us high in respect as Humans are the only animal that has the ability to better themselves....

We can choose freedom.... cast aside all that has held us back and achieve our potential.

We can live and last forever.


posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 04:41 AM
Who is to say that us colonising another planet(s) after killing this one is a bad thing?

Seriously, look at the strife Nazi Germany caused, have we just forgotten our mistake there and let history repeat itself over and over? Sure haven't.

I would say a new colony established on another planet would NEVER forget what humanity did wrong to the first one, and try to look after what they have's the human way, trial and error. You learn off your mistakes

You have to take into account that humanity as a whole basically has barely broken the nappy stage. We're still babies. Compared to how long dinosaurs were around we are just a small hiccup in time, yet look how far we have advanced. There is a great deal of potential in humans, we just need to make it through adolescence without killing ourselves

posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 05:01 AM
anyone ever get the feeling that we may be the last generation that grows old, so even our children and their children probably wont make it to old age, either because of war or condition of the planet. if aliens/e.t ever visited they'd laugh at us, that's what those lights are in the sky. aliens parking their crafts up in our atmosphere to have a right piss up about how lame we are. earth's been around for billions of years. human-kind has pretty much been destroying it for around 200 years. we take everything for granted, but one day everything will run out...the lights will go out, the phones go dead, tv a thing of the past, food and clean water will be scarce...and this is likely to happen in places like america and england, we'll be the lucky ones.

posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 05:23 AM
What glorious day when the Babylon falls! Dont worry, earth will be around long after this civilization has crumbled into dust. We may not all be around but i tell you, humans are like a virus or really nasty parasites, they just wont go away easily. But maybe just maybe these survivors will learn a few lessons from our mistakes and live more archaic lives and maybe next time around theyll respect the hand (eeer planet) that feeds them.
Just stick a fork in this civilization, it done

posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 07:49 AM

and this is likely to happen in places like america and england, we'll be the lucky ones.

Huh?? what are you smoking?

The is an issuhe that will affect the equator in the first instance. IT is already happening.

And your comment about we will be the lucky ones? Huh?? what are you smoking????

posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 09:14 AM
I'm with the crowd who thinks 50 years is really not a feasable time frame. There are lots of healthy natural places all around us. Not only that, but since the 60s when the environmental movement became widely popularized, many successfull initiatives have reversed damage and restored many areas. Even small climatic changes take a human lifetime to whitness. Let's not confuse day and week long observations (Weather) with long term, decades and years long ones (climate). There's nothing strange about what is happening. And anyway, even if the world turns into a wasteland, big deal,......Everything dies,...and Everything changes. Besides, I always thought the Mad Max world would be fun to live in.

posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 10:20 AM
you do provide alot of facts but I am going to respond to your post with factual reply. IF the world would run out of oil, hydro/electric cars would be the replacement. solar energy and wind energy would become prime resources... the earth may eventually run out of natural resources, but there are many alternatives. True life would change drastically but as a survival aspect we as a humance race can go on. There is a lot of oil out there, much it isnt drilled because it resides in areas' protectec by wildlife and ocean conservations groups.... 2nd hybrid cars are starting to come into play. hydrogen powered cars are also designed.... the reason oil is still a top player is because of corportate monopoly and a power push..

Originally posted by nyeff
Jason Burke
"The Observer"

Our planet is running out of room and resources. Modern man has plundered so much, a damning report claims this week, that outer space will have to be colonised.

The world's ticking timebomb.

The end of earth as we know it? Talk about it here

Earth's population will be forced to colonise two planets within 50 years if natural resources continue to be exploited at the current rate, according to a report out this week.

A study by the World Wildlife Fund (WWF), to be released on Tuesday, warns that the human race is plundering the planet at a pace that outstrips its capacity to support life.

In a damning condemnation of Western society's high consumption levels, it adds that the extra planets (the equivalent size of Earth) will be required by the year 2050 as existing resources are exhausted.

The report, based on scientific data from across the world, reveals that more than a third of the natural world has been destroyed by humans over the past three decades.

Using the image of the need for mankind to colonise space as a stark illustration of the problems facing Earth, the report warns that either consumption rates are dramatically and rapidly lowered or the planet will no longer be able to sustain its growing population.

Experts say that seas will become emptied of fish while forests - which absorb carbon dioxide emissions - are completely destroyed and freshwater supplies become scarce and polluted.

The report offers a vivid warning that either people curb their extravagant lifestyles or risk leaving the onus on scientists to locate another planet that can sustain human life. Since this is unlikely to happen, the only option is to cut consumption now.

Systematic overexploitation of the planet's oceans has meant the North Atlantic's cod stocks have collapsed from an estimated spawning stock of 264,000 tonnes in 1970 to under 60,000 in 1995.

The study will also reveal a sharp fall in the planet's ecosystems between 1970 and 2002 with the Earth's forest cover shrinking by about 12 per cent, the ocean's biodiversity by a third and freshwater ecosystems in the region of 55 per cent.

The Living Planet report uses an index to illustrate the shocking level of deterioration in the world's forests as well as marine and freshwater ecosystems. Using 1970 as a baseline year and giving it a value of 100, the index has dropped to a new low of around 65 in the space of a single generation.

It is not just humans who are at risk. Scientists, who examined data for 350 kinds of mammals, birds, reptiles and fish, also found the numbers of many species have more than halved.

Martin Jenkins, senior adviser for the World Conservation Monitoring Centre in Cambridge, which helped compile the report, said: 'It seems things are getting worse faster than possibly ever before. Never has one single species had such an overwhelming influence. We are entering uncharted territory.'

Figures from the centre reveal that black rhino numbers have fallen from 65,000 in 1970 to around 3,100 now. Numbers of African elephants have fallen from around 1.2 million in 1980 to just over half a million while the population of tigers has fallen by 95 per cent during the past century.

The UK's birdsong population has also seen a drastic fall with the corn bunting population declining by 92 per cent between 1970 and 2000, the tree sparrow by 90 per cent and the spotted flycatcher by 70 per cent.

Experts, however, say it is difficult to ascertain how many species have vanished for ever because a species has to disappear for 50 years before it can be declared extinct.

Attention is now focused on next month's Earth Summit in Johannesburg, the most important environmental negotiations for a decade.

However, the talks remain bedevilled with claims that no agreements will be reached and that US President George W. Bush will fail to attend.

Matthew Spencer, a spokesman for Greenpeace, said: 'There will have to be concessions from the richer nations to the poorer ones or there will be fireworks.'

The preparatory conference for the summit, held in Bali last month, was marred by disputes between developed nations and poorer states and non-governmental organisations (NGOs), despite efforts by British politicians to broker compromises on key issues.

America, which sent 300 delegates to the conference, is accused of blocking many of the key initiatives on energy use, biodiversity and corporate responsibility.

The WWF report shames the US for placing the greatest pressure on the environment. It found the average US resident consumes almost double the resources as that of a UK citizen and more than 24 times that of some Africans.

Based on factors such as a nation's consumption of grain, fish, wood and fresh water along with its emissions of carbon dioxide from industry and cars, the report provides an ecological 'footprint' for each country by showing how much land is required to support each resident.

America's consumption 'footprint' is 12.2 hectares per head of population compared to the UK's 6.29ha while Western Europe as a whole stands at 6.28ha. In Ethiopia the figure is 2ha, falling to just half a hectare for Burundi, the country that consumes least resources.

The report, which will be unveiled in Geneva, warns that the wasteful lifestyles of the rich nations are mainly responsible for the exploitation and depletion of natural wealth. Human consumption has doubled over the last 30 years and continues to accelerate by 1.5 per cent a year.

Now WWF wants world leaders to use its findings to agree on specific actions to curb the population's impact on the planet.

A spokesman for WWF UK, said: 'If all the people consumed natural resources at the same rate as the average US and UK citizen we would require at least two extra planets like Earth.'

The world's ticking timebomb

Marine crisis: North Atlantic cod stocks have collapsed from an estimated 264,000 tonnes in 1970 to under 60,000 in 1995.

Pollution: The United States places the greatest pressure on the environment, with its carbon dioxide emissions and over-consumption. It takes 12.2 hectares of land to support each American citizen and 6.29 for each Briton, while the figure for Burundi is just half a hectare.

Shrinking Forests: Between 1970 and 2002 forest cover has dwindled by 12 per cent.

Endangered wildlife: African elephant numbers have fallen from 1.2 million in 1980 to half a million now. In the UK the songbird population has fallen dramatically, with the corn bunting declining by 92 per cent in the past 30 years.


posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 10:37 AM
The atlantic conveyor belt shut down 11,000 years ago, and it not only affected Europe, but also the America's. Where do you think all those lakes in Wisconsin came from after that last ice age?

Right now, the conveyor is slowing- If you look at the North American loss of permafrost- you can see that global warming is happening, and yes- i believe the majority of climate SCIENTISTS and not the book writers and pseudopolicicians who although I respect Michael Crighton's work and admire his attempt to at least make scientists rely more on statisticians than become them- i do not want to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

We CAN stabilize the CO2 emissions now, and 10 years from now we could see a decrease- BUT- we have to start now by decreasing our footprint.


posted on Mar, 3 2005 @ 11:50 AM

Originally posted by Neon Haze

and this is likely to happen in places like america and england, we'll be the lucky ones.

Huh?? what are you smoking?

The is an issuhe that will affect the equator in the first instance. IT is already happening.

And your comment about we will be the lucky ones? Huh?? what are you smoking????

o.k read the whole post before you post a retarded answer to it. im not saying it would only happen to america and england, i said it would happend to countries 'LIKE' america and england. that being loss of electricity, communications fo down, food and water become scarce. that would be compared to 3rd world countries where most of those already apply, which is why i said countries 'LIKE' america and england. im saying we will be the lucky ones because we will probably still be able to survive, however the 3rd world and poorer countries will be #d, which is why the richer countries will be lucky. jesus #in christ what have you been smoking? i thought my posts was simple, obviously some retarded chump couldnt understand it

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