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And The US is aloud to have nukes....why?

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posted on Mar, 7 2005 @ 11:39 AM
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Why should the US be the only one aloud to have nukes? I mean, why does it matter that some little country in the middle of nowhere(east, haha) has 1 or 2 nukes. Since when has Iran ever attacked the US, when have they even threatened?

Getting other smaller countries to dis-arm their nuke programs isn't about "national security", it is about control. The man with the sword controls the man with the stick. God forbid that man ever try to make his own sword, to try to become equal with the other man.

The US is a global bully, every other country (besides a few) is minding it's own business and hardly bothering the neighbouring countires, but the US feels the need to go half way across the planet to liberate and free, heh...liberate and free the oils feilds.

Why does the US need nukes? Canada has no nukes, and we are not scared we are going to get nuked, why? Because we dont' try to run other countries. We mind our business, not following the tyrant to the south. You think he is doing good for your country, he is doing good for his own bank account.

Back to the topic at hand, notice how the US is only picking on the little countries? Countries that can hardly defend themselves against western techonology. Your leader isn't a "war president" he is a coward.

Screw it, I lost my train of thought, just thinking about the US makes me want to rant.




posted on Mar, 7 2005 @ 11:42 AM
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1.) Your avatar scares the crap out of me!

2.) The US has nukes because it is in the US's best interest to have them. Many other countries are not allowed to have nukes because it is not in the US's best interest. See where I am going with this...



posted on Mar, 7 2005 @ 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by e 2 e k 1 a 7
Why should the US be the only one aloud to have nukes?

What? The US is hardly the only country to have nukes.

I mean, why does it matter that some little country in the middle of nowhere(east, haha) has 1 or 2 nukes.

So its bad that the US has nukes, and it would be good if lots of little countries had them?

Since when has Iran ever attacked the US, when have they even threatened?

The iranian government constantly threatens to destroy 'the great satan' that is the US and the West.


Getting other smaller countries to dis-arm their nuke programs isn't about "national security", it is about control.

Control and National Security are the same thing.

God forbid that man ever try to make his own sword, to try to become equal with the other man.
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Ok, and?


The US is a global bully, every other country (besides a few) is minding it's own business and hardly bothering the neighbouring countires

Thats a load of BS.


but the US feels the need to go half way across the planet to liberate and free, heh...liberate and free the oils feilds.

The US is not the only country in the world that agreed to sign the Nuclear Non-proliferation treaty. The


Why does the US need nukes?

Are you completely ignorant of history and politics because of a lack of education or is it entirely willful?

Canada has no nukes, and we are not scared we are going to get nuked, why?

Because of american nukes protecting canada. Canada and europe were sure scared enough of the soviets to work with the americans.



posted on Mar, 7 2005 @ 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by Jonna
Many other countries are not allowed to have nukes because it is not in the US's best interest. See where I am going with this...

So you feel that it was in the USs best interests for pakistan and india to have nukes?

The NPT was something that most of the world agreed to join without any coercing on the part of the US. The general lack of nuke armed countries in the world is largely the result of the actions of the international community. The US is hardly bucking the trend here.



posted on Mar, 7 2005 @ 12:08 PM
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The US is allowed to have nukes since we created them in one of our evil labs. Well, I'll give Germany credit for the idea, but the US was the first to pull off the idea and the first and only one to ever use them in war. Everyone is stepping on our copy-right infringement and should back off.
Plus we're the only country with experience using them. We're scared of amateurs trying to use them.

Actually: It's easier to control the world if you're the only one with nuclear weapons. The only countries we complain about are the ones we don't trust and they might bully our allies with the weapons and pull us into a nuclear exchange. I know that exchanging weapons sounds peaceful, but people only tend to trade used weapons.



posted on Mar, 7 2005 @ 12:16 PM
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Canada has no nukes because along time ago we signed a contract with the US saying that we will never try to make Nucleur weapons. We weren't scared, the US just said, your not making nukes, and we like stupid people said ok Mr. President.

So Iran constantly threatens the security of the US, the only thing I've seen or read that remotely threatened the western world was their leader saying that if the US tried to invade Iran there would be hell to pay. He didn't say he was going to nuke the US, he is just saying your not going to push me around like you did to saddam and make me your b__ch.

So I am going on that, you better got find that FOX news article you read or watched and quote it.



posted on Mar, 7 2005 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by e 2 e k 1 a 7
Canada has no nukes because along time ago we
signed a contract with the US saying that we will
never try to make Nucleur weapons.


Got a link, or a name of that nuclear treaty that the
USA and Canada allegedly have?

It suuuuuuuuuuuuure makes life easier for Canada,
not having to spend as much $$$ on defense because
America shoulders the burden. Looks like you are enjoying
many freedoms up there in Canada because we
American taxpayers are paying for the big ticket
defense items down here.

YOU ARE WELCOME.



posted on Mar, 7 2005 @ 12:33 PM
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Didn't Canada, back out of the Missle Defense System? So how exactly are we protected by you?

We are not protected by you, no one invades us because we dont go around trying to control other countries. So we have no real need for your defense

I'm looking for that treaty as we speak, give me a bit though, I have things to do also.


[edit on 7-3-2005 by e 2 e k 1 a 7]



posted on Mar, 7 2005 @ 12:40 PM
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Yep, the hypocrisy is stupendously obvious, but no one, including folks here at ATS, will bring it up much because they're afraid of being labelled a US-hater by many patriotic souls who have forgotten that they are not their government.

The US Republican government has never stood by the principle of "lead by example", rather it has adhered to the principles of "peace through military superiority" and where that cannot be achieved, "peace through mutually assured destruction". And who can blame them? Anyone who's top dog wants to stay top dog.

Clinton's term was the perfect time to drastically reduce nuclear weapon stockpiles on both sides of the Atlantic, but the opportunity was allowed to slide by a president under enourmous pressure from personal scandal.

So you'd better get used to it. The Rep. govt. will continue to point the finger at and invade the countries of other governments, oblivious to the glaring hypocrisy. And why? Because it can. And all the time the great propoganda circus rolls on, while behind the scenes the Bush and Co. admin neatly balks at almost every treaty it can. US Position on International Treaties



posted on Mar, 7 2005 @ 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by e 2 e k 1 a 7
Since when has Iran ever attacked the US, when have they even threatened?



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posted on Mar, 7 2005 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by e 2 e k 1 a 7
Didn't Canada, back out of the Missle Defense System?
So how exactly are we protected by you?

Simple. If Canada were invaded or attacked, America would
see it as too close to our shores and we'd come flying in to
secure Canada. Missle Defense System or not. That's what
we'd do. Canada knows it. AND I would think most Americans
approve of this. Having Canada fall to Communist China or to
wigged out Muslim extremists hell bent on America's destruction
would be terrible.

We are not protected by you, no one invades us
because ....

Because it's too darn cold up there and because without NHL
hockey all Canada has worth taking over is beer.
Seriously,
Montreal isn't exactly NYC in size, culture, or as a financial target.

So we have no real need for your defense

Actually, you do. You have need of your own as well. Thinking
you are 'safe' because you are socialist or pacifist isn't true. The
radical muslims have said 'convert or die'. Canada is definately in
their sites as are all 'infidel' nations.

I'm looking for that treaty as we speak

Excellent. I'm curious to see it. Take all the time you need.
I understand about having 'other' things to do. I have tons
to do too and I'm about to sign off for today. But I'll check
back tomorrow to see how it's coming.



posted on Mar, 7 2005 @ 12:55 PM
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hahahaha, canada is already the bitch of the world. now do shut up you ignorant trash. i have never heard so many uneducated assertions come out of one person. you say the u.s. is the only country with nukes, someone else demonstrates your incorrectness and your best response is what a child would say, something like "yeah well but...blah blah blah". canada held up their end of the nuclear arms treaties they've signed, and for that i respect them. iran has not held to their word or signature. for that they are acting as a threat and must be held to the consequences of breaking said treaties.



posted on Mar, 7 2005 @ 01:11 PM
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More foolish posts by more naive pacifists and appeasers - whose philosophy has NEVER, EVER, worked to avoid conflict throughout history.


All together now - (singing) Kum by ya, my lord, kum by ya ...


[edit on 3/7/2005 by centurion1211]



posted on Mar, 7 2005 @ 01:13 PM
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First of all, KID, I never said once that the US is the only country with nuclear arms, so maybe you should read alittle closer next time, or call your dad to come and help you. Hooked on Phonics isn't working out so good huh?

So how am I ignorant trash exactly? And where did this Canada is the bitch of the world come from? When I used the word bitch, it was refering to Iran. So again, get past level 2 on your Hooked On Phonics.

The only ignorant ones I've seen so far on here is you, coming in here blasting, without even closly reading what I have said. Obviously you skipped more then a few posts. Someone said something about me thinking the US was the only country with nuclear arms, read a little closer next time, and if your going to try to flame someone, maybe you should read THEIR posts instead of other peoples.
idiot. True American Here.

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Why would you compare NYC to Montreal? haha, montreal ... Toronto is better then montreal, hell even Ottawa is better then Montreal.

[edit on 7-3-2005 by e 2 e k 1 a 7]



posted on Mar, 7 2005 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by e 2 e k 1 a 7
Why would you compare NYC to Montreal? haha,
montreal ... Toronto is better then montreal, hell
even Ottawa is better then Montreal.


Okay ... NYC compared to Toronto OR Montreal.
NYC comes out on top with everything ... including
it's NHL team.
Much better terrorist target,
but hey ... radical muslims are equal opportunity terrorists.
I'm sure the location doesn't matter to them ... we are
all alike (infidels) to them.

(I'll give you that Ottawa has a better hockey team
than NYC... but that's all they have better)

[edit on 3/7/2005 by FlyersFan]



posted on Mar, 7 2005 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by centurion1211
More foolish posts by more naive pacifists and appeasers - whose philosophy has NEVER, EVER, worked throughout history.


All together now - (singing) Kum by ya, my lord, kum by ya ...



Actually, it worked for Ghandi, Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela. It's worked for others in history too...but you don't hear much about it because authority doesn't want you to get any ideas.

There is no enemy anywhere - Lao Tse



posted on Mar, 7 2005 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by e 2 e k 1 a 7
idiot. True American Here.


Wanna' clarify this before I jump all over you?
Thank you.



posted on Mar, 7 2005 @ 01:19 PM
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The Rangers have nothing the Maple Leafs.


Tobad the season was thrown out. Or I would be proven right.
haha

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Sorry for the generalization, People like that just anger me. And I took a shot in the dark with the american thing. For all I know he could be from Australia. It was out of line and I apologize. I can't really clear it up, because there is no way out of it, all I did and can do is apologize. Sorry.


[edit on 7-3-2005 by e 2 e k 1 a 7]



posted on Mar, 7 2005 @ 01:19 PM
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no, i'm telling you, and most of the world can silently agree, canada is earth's bitch country. you're the little tugboat that comes along at the end of the naval battle and asks if you can help.

"Why should the US be the only one aloud to have nukes?"

that's your first sentence. its implication is that you believe the u.s. is the only country to have nukes. at best it still implies you think the u.s. is the only country allowed to have nukes, which would still be grossly inaccurate a statement.

EDIT: had to add a word.

[edit on 7-3-2005 by astroblade]



posted on Mar, 7 2005 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by e 2 e k 1 a 7
The Rangers have nothing the Maple Leafs.


The Maple Leafs??? Darcy Tucker and Ti Domi are
their claim to fame. Domi can't control his fists and
Tucker dives like a pansy. (I'm a girl, even I say that!)
Rangers beat Maple Leafs in class and in standing.



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