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posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 09:38 PM
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originally posted by: Fools

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: Fools
America dropped 26,171 bombs in 2016. What a bloody end to Obama's reign

I am not a betting man, but my bet is that you never brought up anything like this during the Obama admin. If I am incorrect, my apologies.


Although I am a liberal Democrat I did not have any control of the Council of Foreign Relation's recommendations...control over our military.

I've ranted many times it doesn't matter which party gets elected. Lobbyists dictate domestic policy. The CFR dictates foreign policy. Both parties have EXACTLY the same public policies. Sorry if you still think voting matters.



And yet Trump, for the first time in my 50 years has backed out and brought a small amount of troops out of the quagmire. I am assuming you - since it seems you are level headed in that area - have admitted as much. So if so, thank you.


I think it's great. It's the best thing Trump has done in his presidency. Fighting unfair Chinese currency manipulation by having tariffs is pretty good too. Just those two alone and Trump will get a lot of pro-labor anti-war Democrats to vote for him.

Unless Bernie Sanders wins the nomination then I have to vote for Bernie.



Bernie best represents my desire to fight back against the billionaires and lobbyists.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 09:40 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: Bigburgh
a reply to: JinMI


I'll be the monkey..



You are a hole effin TROLL!!! # you!


Harsh, bud! So trollburg made a wrong.

What did you a-make with your retaliatory reply?

tsk tsk



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 09:40 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: dfnj2015


What's wrong with me? Hah!


Who's exploiting dead civilians for political points and justification on the interwebs?

Before lashing out over conflict from your faux outrage, take a long look in the mirror bud


Political points???????? Okay, you win. The right is always right.


Case in point.


RE: "Who's exploiting dead civilians for political points"

You really are not a human being. I pity you.


Your pity is misguided I'm afraid.

You're not fooling anyone.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 09:42 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

I remember the Mosul incident turns out they hit an ISIS stockpile. There were two snipers attacking people from the building. they called in an airstrike to clear the second floor. However, there were enough explosives in the building to level the block. Also wasnt US forces that called in for the airstrike it was coalition forces meaning Iraqis. the iraqi troops had no idea there was munitions hidden in the building and therefore it was a huge accident.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 09:42 PM
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originally posted by: Bigburgh
a reply to: dfnj2015

You did!

And granted you're a weak individual. You deleted part of your OP about burdman30ott6...

You're a sick and disgusting person.


Thanks for the ad hominem attack. You only criticize and hate in other people what you do not like about your own character.

Regardless, I think dropping 30,000 bombs per year in the Middle East and genociding a million Arabs is not a good foreign policy. This is my stance. You may not agree with my opinion but I think it's morally wrong and reprehensible.


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posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 09:44 PM
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posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 09:45 PM
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originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: dfnj2015

I remember the Mosul incident turns out they hit an ISIS stockpile. There were two snipers attacking people from the building. they called in an airstrike to clear the second floor. However, there were enough explosives in the building to level the block. Also wasnt US forces that called in for the airstrike it was coalition forces meaning Iraqis. the iraqi troops had no idea there was munitions hidden in the building and therefore it was a huge accident.


Terrific. Great service. However, the problem with the Middle East is Arabs have been killing Arabs from the beginning of time. I doubt anything we have done in the ME is going to stop another 9/11 or stop Arabs from killing Arabs.

Heck, all the military spending we had before 9/11 did absolute NOTHING to prevent 9/11.

I just think dropping 30,000 bombs per year in the Middle East is a bad foreign policy. Someone please tell me what is the win condition of our endless wars in the Middle East?


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posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 09:48 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: dfnj2015
Lol!!!
You realize you started the ball on them ad homs...right?


You do realize everything you post is completely off topic and nothing but trolling me. Please stop.

You tell me. Why is dropping 30,000 bombs in the ME every year and killing over a million Arabs good foreign policy. Surprise me with your scintillating intellect.


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posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 09:49 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: Fools

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: Fools
America dropped 26,171 bombs in 2016. What a bloody end to Obama's reign

I am not a betting man, but my bet is that you never brought up anything like this during the Obama admin. If I am incorrect, my apologies.


Although I am a liberal Democrat I did not have any control of the Council of Foreign Relation's recommendations...control over our military.

I've ranted many times it doesn't matter which party gets elected. Lobbyists dictate domestic policy. The CFR dictates foreign policy. Both parties have EXACTLY the same public policies. Sorry if you still think voting matters.



And yet Trump, for the first time in my 50 years has backed out and brought a small amount of troops out of the quagmire. I am assuming you - since it seems you are level headed in that area - have admitted as much. So if so, thank you.


I think it's great. It's the best thing Trump has done in his presidency. Fighting unfair Chinese currency manipulation by having tariffs is pretty good too. Just those two alone and Trump will get a lot of pro-labor anti-war Democrats to vote for him.

Unless Bernie Sanders wins the nomination then I have to vote for Bernie.



Bernie best represents my desire to fight back against the billionaires and lobbyists.



If you are a socialist, which you seem to freely admit, then go for it. I respect anyone that is front about their political beliefs.

To me, the weird thing is how people still support Bernie after he sold out to the Clinton machine. What are your thoughts on that? To me, that would make me drop any and all support of him. Why do you still support Bernie? I mean how can you trust him?



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 09:50 PM
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originally posted by: NarcolepticBuddha

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: Bigburgh
a reply to: JinMI
I'll be the monkey..


You are a hole effin TROLL!!! # you!

Harsh, bud! So trollburg made a wrong.
What did you a-make with your retaliatory reply?
tsk tsk


A million people were killed by bombing and someone posts joke pictures about it! Please explain to me the humor.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 09:50 PM
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Our government has been hijacked by special interests with no loyalty to our country. Try as we might we've been unable to untangle this mess. Is why we're putting so much hope into Trump as an outliar. We're out of ideas. See our government stopped representing americans long ago. We're putting so much hope into Trump to untangle some of this mess because if he fails, chances are, all that's left is revolution or surrender. Sadly most americans aren't war crazy, which in this case is bad, cause it means most likely surrender.

Most Americans do not agree with our countries actions in the middle east. We just have no way to fix it without turning this country into a third world # hole by an act of revolution.

So keep that in mind when Americans talk about human rights. They aren't particularly happy with their country either.

That said, in terms of life in America, rights are much better than many places... well until you look at our incarceration rates. Land of the free my ass...



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 09:51 PM
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posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 09:52 PM
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posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 09:53 PM
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a reply to: Fools

If Hillary did not steal the South Carolina primary Sanders would have been the nominee. Her shenanigans are well documented. She cheated, he lost. He capitulated. I don't know. We can only hope he doesn't get shafted this time around. I guess I don't care what he did after she stole it.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 09:54 PM
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originally posted by: Puppylove
Our government has been hijacked by special interests with no loyalty to our country. Try as we might we've been unable to untangle this mess. Is why we're putting so much hope into Trump as an outliar. We're out of ideas. See our government stopped representing americans long ago. We're putting so much hope into Trump to untangle some of this mess because if he fails, chances are, all that's left is revolution or surrender. Sadly most americans aren't war crazy, which in this case is bad, cause it means most likely surrender.

Most Americans do not agree with our countries actions in the middle east. We just have no way to fix it without turning this country into a third world # hole by an act of revolution.

So keep that in mind when Americans talk about human rights. They aren't particularly happy with their country either.

That said, in terms of life in America, rights are much better than many places... well until you look at our incarceration rates. Land of the free my ass...


I totally agree with you and your thoughts.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 09:58 PM
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Death to Great Satan America!



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 09:59 PM
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originally posted by: Stupidsecrets

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: dfnj2015
I'll take you seriously when you show the same outrage over actual widows. Specifically the ones who's spouses gave up everything so you could continue to despise yourself and country.

Until then, it's a laughable matter.


Them too! What is wrong with you. Why do you think it's okay for a million people to be killed for any reason!


It is 100% ok if it saves 1 million and 5. That is why. You would kill 1 million and 5. I'm saving the 5. You lose.


I don't quite follow your logic.

It's seems to me killing Arab preemptive is morally ambiguous at best. What is the exact amount of Arabs that need to be killed in the Middle East before the endless wars can end?

It's simple question. But none of the war mongers posting in this thread had enough backbone to say what the number should be? If you can't answer the question the what is the point or purpose of US foreign policy in the Middle East?

Trump is right. It's time to pull the troops out of Syria.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:00 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

Trolling is deliberately trying to cause a problem.

OP is the problem. And that's a problem.



posted on Oct, 17 2019 @ 10:00 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Fools

If Hillary did not steal the South Carolina primary Sanders would have been the nominee. Her shenanigans are well documented. She cheated, he lost. He capitulated. I don't know. We can only hope he doesn't get shafted this time around. I guess I don't care what he did after she stole it.


I think he has probably already given into said shaft. I could go on, but it seems pretty obvious to me. I think its really weird they seem to be fronting Elizabeth Warren (because she's a woman - right?) when she has the charisma of a ditzoid grandmother. If there were no other choice but her and him, I would choose him. However, I am not, nor will ever be an advocate of socialism - so it is a mute point.




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