Lib Dems pledge to cancel Brexit if they win general election.

So there we have it.

A message to the people of Britain that voted to leave The E.U. that basically says " Stuff You "

Thank God these anti-democratic Liberal Democrats will never form a U.K. Government. This is in my mind the most disgusting political party in Britain. Remember their 2010 manifesto pledge ? They would scrap University Tuition Fees if they got into government. What did they do when they became part of the 2010 coalition government ? They agreed to RAISE the fees.

Complete piss pot of a political party.

The Liberal Democrats have pledged to cancel Brexit if they come to power at the next general election. Members voted for the new policy at their party conference in Bournemouth after it was moved by their former leader, Sir Vince Cable

www.bbc.co.uk...

a reply to: alldaylong

So what Boris tried to do was undemocratic... yet telling the people that voted one way we dont like what you did so we are going to ignore it isn't?


I haven't been following as closely as I should since moving but, good lord yall are losing your nation. Before the 2016 election in the US I told friends that no matter who wins the US would never be the same, I think yall are there now. Folks better pay attention and they better get involved and pick a direction or god help you if the other group gets in.

a reply to: alldaylong

They won't win so it's a moot point. IF, and it's a big if, they won then the public would have given them a mandate to enact their manifesto. Regarding 2010, they didn't win and were a junior party in the coalition so again had no mandate to implement their policy on university fees.

a reply to: RexKramerPRT

Regarding 2010, they didn't win and were a junior party in the coalition so again had no mandate to implement their policy on university fees.

No party at the 2010 GE had an overall majority. The only way Bills could get through The Commons was with Lib Dem Support as party of The Coalition. The LD supported the raise of tuition fees.

a reply to: alldaylong
"Go back to your constituencies and prepare for government!"
David Steel, Liberal Party Assembly, 1981

a reply to: alldaylong

In exchange for getting some of their own ideas implemented and not all Lib Dems voted for it. They got the alternative vote referendum and fixed term Parliament act though.

originally posted by: RexKramerPRT
a reply to: alldaylong

In exchange for getting some of their own ideas implemented and not all Lib Dems voted for it. They got the alternative vote referendum and fixed term Parliament act though.

But...........they still went back on their pledge to scrap tuition fees. Their loyalty to those who voted for them was bought cheaply.

I think to do it with out a second referendum is just asking for trouble, if they're going to do this then they need to say that they're going to at least put it back to the public to make the decision.

I can see what the lib-dems are trying to do, they're trying to paint themselves as the "anti-brexit party" to gain a few votes but I doubt that they will make any huge gains with this tactic.

Only a matter of time now before we get a General Election so time will tell. If they win a majority (and lets face it nobody expects that to happen but..IF) then they would have won on a election promise to revoke article 50 so I guess they could justify that way but again, its not going to happen, this is just the Lib-Dems trying to sweep up some extra votes from the more hardcore elements of Remain.

a reply to: alldaylong

Given the split in voting it looks like they gave their MP's a free vote. Blame the MP's who voted for it rather than the party.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

But if the public voted them into office and this is their publicly declared position prior to the election then it has gone back to the public to vote on albeit via a different kind of vote.

originally posted by: RexKramerPRT
a reply to: alldaylong

Given the split in voting it looks like they gave their MP's a free vote. Blame the MP's who voted for it rather than the party.

And guess what ? Jo Swinson LD Party Leader voted to raise tuition fees.

Says it all really. At least she is consistant.

originally posted by: RexKramerPRT
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

But if the public voted them into office and this is their publicly declared position prior to the election then it has gone back to the public to vote on albeit via a different kind of vote.

Yeah I kind of said as much in my third paragraph. They could justify it if they got into power on the promise to revoke article 50 am just saying that with out a second referendum that could be a bit of a tricky position. Lets face it though, they are never going to win, I actually think if they just went with a simple second referendum promise they would sweep up even more voters but I guess they are trying to paint themselves as the hard core remain party.

It will be really interesting to see what happens to the various parties in the next general election, I could see the Lib-Dems getting a lot of seats but they're never going to be much more than the number three party I think.

Policy by opinion poll.

In a way it is democratic, they are putting forward their intentions before an election (let's assume we will have one very soon) and voters will get to decide at the ballot box.

They do have form for lying, which is something we expect from our politicians of course.

They are a joke. New leader who talks of being PM when their party currently has approx. 17 seats is a totally deluded fantasist who has no feeling for the will and frustration of the people and certainly no respect for the electoral mandate given at the referendum for the government to deliver LEAVE!

Stupid person!

There is only one outcome if there is a GE and we all now know what that is going to be. BJ/NF coalition!!

Goodbye EU we can talk about a trade deal after we have left which will ensure we get a better trade deal and the freedom to trade where we wish!

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
I think to do it with out a second referendum is just asking for trouble, if they're going to do this then they need to say that they're going to at least put it back to the public to make the decision.

I can see what the lib-dems are trying to do, they're trying to paint themselves as the "anti-brexit party" to gain a few votes but I doubt that they will make any huge gains with this tactic.

Only a matter of time now before we get a General Election so time will tell. If they win a majority (and lets face it nobody expects that to happen but..IF) then they would have won on a election promise to revoke article 50 so I guess they could justify that way but again, its not going to happen, this is just the Lib-Dems trying to sweep up some extra votes from the more hardcore elements of Remain.

It will be interesting to see at an election, if those who were elected in as a

particular party and have now defected to the Lib/Dems if they will lose their

seats? After all the electorate voted them in as the party they were and

not as a Lib/Dem.

Me thinks the next election will see many of the current shower looking for another

job.

a reply to: eletheia

I think the next election will be very interesting and very difficult to predict.

I know that a few of those MPs who defected have said they wouldn't run again, some have said they will run as independents which can be difficult and others have defected to the Lib-Dems so may lose their seats if they are "safe conservative seats" same goes for the "Change party". Could be a pretty wild election night might need to start stocking up on beers early.

originally posted by: Tortuga

In a way it is democratic, they are putting forward their intentions before an election (let's assume we will have one very soon) and voters will get to decide at the ballot box.

How is that democratic? The electorate voted to leave and they are going to

remain?

I think they will get a surprise in an election as the people making all the noise are

the remainers

It was the same before the referendum, and thats why the remainers and Cameron

were so shocked at the result.

They do have form for lying, which is something we expect from our politicians of course.

Two words........tuition fees!!

Only in Britain.

The party who first proposed Brexit are now running against it.
The party who didn't want Brexit now have to campaign for it.

What a willy Wonker whacky world.

Next stop, fully Corbynated socialist republic or Irela..... I mean Britland. He should invite those IRA boys he campaigned for, the ones who killed all those MPs in a hotel.

The lib dems will never, ever see power without a split government - they run on idiotic stances.

It was like that time back in the world wars when it got tough we just abandoned it. Like when that brownlie brother couldn't finish that marathon through exhaustion so he and his brother just abandoned it. And when Grenfell tower was burning but it was hard and harrowing to get inside so the firefighters just abandoned their efforts and walked away. Or all the IRA bombings they were pretty tough so instead of negotiating we just abandoned it. When something is difficult, it's better to walk away and get some likes on a Twitter post instead.