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posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 05:44 AM
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"A HUGE paedophile trial opens in France today in which 66 adults - 27 of them women - will appear before a court in Angers charged with the rape and abuse of 45 children aged between six months and 12 years.

At the centre of the scandal are 15 couples accused of prostituting their children in return for cigarettes, a few kilos of potatoes or a couple of days’ camping. Some parents allegedly sold their children for modest sums of money which they spent in nightclubs.

The alleged abuse took place between June 1999 and February 2002 in garden sheds on allotments and in council flats in the Angers suburb of Saint-Léonard.

Of the 66 accused, 39 are being held in custody. They are accused of "aggravated pimping" and "rape of minors under 15" and face up to 30 years in jail if found guilty. The remaining 27 are charged with "sexual aggression" and "failure to denounce a crime" and risk jail sentences of up to ten years.

Several unidentified "clients" of the paedophile ring are still being sought. Police have already identified eight. They are not, as rumour had suggested, important members of the community, but parents who disguised themselves so they would not be recognised by their own children.

The victims, whose evidence was filmed and will be presented on giant screens, say they were forced to watch pornographic films and their parents having sex, before being raped.

The defence will stress that all the accused come from deprived backgrounds, many were unemployed, the majority are illiterate and all were looked at by social services.

Most were also known to the police. "We knew them like the backs of our hands. The men were regular visitors to the court for sex crimes," said a specialist in criminal law.

Only one mother, among the parents of the 45 victims, will look after her child during the case; the other parents are in the dock or no longer have legal authority over their children.

The scale of the accusations has shocked the country, still reeling from the fiasco of the trial of 17 alleged paedophiles in Outreau in northern France, last year. In that case, seven of the accused were eventually acquitted after a woman at the centre of the case admitted lying. All but one of the acquitted were jailed for up to three years before the case collapsed."

thescotsman.scotsman.com...


So this is the 'enlightened" Europe preaching to America about human rights? How the death penalty for children is "barbaric"?

Organized rape of your own children is about as sick as it gets. Selling them for cigarettes?


How dare anyone from europe ever say another word about supposed "abuse" at Abu Graib.

If any place on earth needs the death penalty europe is it.




posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 07:35 AM
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archive.salon.com...

France and sex. Sex and France. When people think of France
they think of cheese, wine (WHINE!!), and sex. But some people
over there have to work on it. (read the article at the link)

I was in France for one day. That was long enough. I RAN back
over the boarder into Switzerland. UGH.

I read a stat that only 5% of French go to chuch now. The 'eldest
daughter' of the Catholic Church has lost her faith. Lost faith (in ANY
higher power) equals more problems and the information you provided
is a symptom of a larger disease - LOF (Lack of Faith) and self obsession.



posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 07:44 AM
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So this is the 'enlightened" Europe preaching to America about human rights? How the death penalty for children is "barbaric"?


So you think the death penalty for children isn't barbaric?


Organized rape of your own children is about as sick as it gets. Selling them for cigarettes?


Did you bother to read this properly or were you skimming through while thinking about starting another anti-EU thread? The scale of the accusations has shocked the country.....You see? Nonces are hated everywhere, just because we don't have the death penalty doesn't mean we like these people anymore than you. And one thing the death penalty can't do is subject this low life scum to years of abuse in 'pound me in the ass' prison, followed by a life of loathing, abuse and violence if and when they ever get released. A far better penalty IMO than the taking of a life.


How dare anyone from europe ever say another word about supposed "abuse" at Abu Graib.


Sorry but I fail to see how this has any bearing on this thread subject. The type of people complaining about the abuse over here, were the same type as were complaining in the US.

Are you saying that there are NO paedophiles in the US? NO paedophile rings in the US? NO abuse of minors of any sort?



posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 07:46 AM
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should all be shot!



posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 07:49 AM
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France is not the only country that has paedophiles, it seems to plague the US as well, no doubt in Canada too. Not to mention the Middle East and South America. I wounder if it has always been the same and we see and hear more about because of mass media, or are the number of paedophiles going up?




Click below to see large scans of the newspaper article



Source: The Franklin Coverup Scandal
The Child sex ring that reached Bush/Reagan Whitehouse



posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 08:25 AM
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What happened in Frace is just the tip of the iceberg.

A chilling unicef report on child traficking and sexual abuse worldwide:

"Twelve-year-old Rachel had just dropped out of school in Albania and
was working in a cigarette factory when Stephan, age 29, asked her to marry him.When he suggested they move abroad to have a better life, Rachel believed that her new husband would love and care for her.
Three months after their wedding, Stephan persuaded Rachel to travel to Italy with him. Soon after they arrived, Stephan asked Rachel to work on the street as aprostitute.“I worked morning to night every day,” says Rachel. She worked on ahighway and had to earn $250 per night, requiring her to see about 10 clients.

“If I didn’t earn that money, he would beat me,” she says.

Rachel’s story is but one of the many terrible tales of betrayal, cruelty and greed that are surfacing around the world. From the brothels of Bangkok to the sidewalksof Manila, the train stations of Moscow to the truck routes of Tanzania, the suburbs of New York to the beaches of Mexico, the outrageous is commonplace.
Girls and boysare bought and sold like commodities and sexually exploited for commercial gain.

The sex trade is a multibillion-dollar industry, built on greed and feeding on
those with the least power. Children are coldly and calculatedly targeted for their marketability and cash value. In many countries, the sex industry fuels the expansion of the tourist industry and is a significant source of foreign exchange earnings. A study on the illegal economy in Thailand, for example, found that from 1993 to 1995, prostitution accounted for 10 per cent to 14 per cent of the country’s annual gross domestic product (GDP). An estimated one third of the women involved in prostitution in Thailand are minors."





More here:

www.unicef.org...



posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by DrHoracid
If any place on earth needs the death penalty europe is it.


Dr. Dr. Dr. I still stand by my earlier statement. The death penalty is ineffective.

We need to make these people work for the rest of their lives. Until they die. No retirement. Work Work Work. They get no profit. They get life. They support the prison that houses them (self-sustainable) and they make what we want in the world. They took away from someone, they need to give back.



posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 09:18 AM
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Another hate mongering thread by our own propaganda minister for the American right Dr Horacid


Get real paedophilia and child prostitution happens EVERYWHERE on earth, in some nations more than others. It's a sick and sad world Horacid, I wish you'd realise we're more the same than different.

The Death Penalty is barbaric and unjust, many good men die then are found to be innocent. I would prefer to put the prison population into huge public works projects, highways, dams, alternative energy projects and so on, depending on what their crimes are and how violent they are, we need Something that makes a real difference to the community and something that makes sure that they earn a hot meal, a hot shower and a mattress at night.

thanks,
drfunk



posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by DrHoracid
If any place on earth needs the death penalty europe is it.


Wow, DrH. You so rarely advocate the execution of the subjects about which you post, I'm truly shocked at this "finishing move" you've chosen.


Dude, you want to kill everybody.


I'm not speculating on any involved sociopathy here, merely offering the observation again for your consideration and the consideration of those that choose to react and reply based soley on the themed "hook" of your ever so modest proposals.

It's really distracting to the supposed subject matter. Assuming you even care about the topics, and they aren't just utilitarian opportunities of excuse for the use and angry emoticons.



posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 09:34 AM
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Since you insist comparing apples with oranges I remind you of one minor detail: the paedophilia in France wasn't with silent approval of senior government officals....two wrongs doesn't make one right.

It would be interesting to measure how much of these deprived and unemployed French child violators aren't liberal SINNERS but have voted for right winger Jean-Marie-Le-Pen and carry a huge hate for immigrants that they see in their poor part downtown and that are piling up in French prisons as well...



[edit on 2-3-2005 by Countermeasures]



posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan


I read a stat that only 5% of French go to chuch now.

What does that have to do with anything al all!?



posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 09:40 AM
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It means that they don't have the luxury to commit their crimes in name of the Lortd



posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by LadyV

Originally posted by FlyersFan


I read a stat that only 5% of French go to chuch now.

What does that have to do with anything al all!?


Maybe he's trying to justify the switch from French Fries to Freedom Fries?



posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 09:47 AM
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I mean honestly, blaming the French people for the acts of a few of it's citizens is like calling all of Americans stupid for ignorant posts by some Americans. It's makes the accuser look more asinine than the people they are trying to cast dispersions upon.



posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by LadyV

Originally posted by FlyersFan
I read a stat that only 5% of French go to chuch now.

What does that have to do with anything al all!?

What I went on to say ... (perhaps not clearly enough) ... was
that when people loose faith in a higher power, or suffer from
a lack of faith in something bigger than themselves, then crime
rises. People who believe in a higher power, a god, believe in
something more than just themselves (Christians, Muslims,
Jews, Wiccans, Buddhists, ... whatever) .. people who believe
in SOMETHING and practice that belief tend not to do these
things. The faith in France has dropped drastically. The crime
rates have gone up. A self serving attitude grows crime.

Now ... no one bring up pedophine priests and say that they
believe in a higher power and yet are pediphiles. Those men
(less than 1% of the Catholic priests) never believed in anything
and they entered the priesthood with the intent of stalking.
At least that's what the latest psycho-babble on them is.



posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

What I went on to say ... (perhaps not clearly enough) ... was
that when people loose faith in a higher power, or suffer from
a lack of faith in something bigger than themselves, then crime
rises.




No, I do not believe that to be true at all! No way! I know many atheist and they are good people, good morals.......nope, that's just not true, not by my experiences.



posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
What I went on to say ... (perhaps not clearly enough) ... was
that when people loose faith in a higher power, or suffer from
a lack of faith in something bigger than themselves, then crime
rises.


That's a load of crock if I ever heard one. Not only did you not cleary express it enough, there is no logic to back such a claim.

If YoU hAvE fOuNd GoD tHeN yOu WiLl NeVeR cOmMiT cRiMe

Blasphemy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Uhm, Israel has LoTs of CrImE, so does the USA?????????

What a farce!



posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by 00PS
Maybe he's trying to justify the switch from French Fries to Freedom Fries?

I'm a SHE.
And no justification is necessary. Freedom Fries
are here to stay (I hope). Just as hot dogs replaced the german
word for weiners.



posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by 00PS
Maybe he's trying to justify the switch from French Fries to Freedom Fries?

I'm a SHE.
And no justification is necessary. Freedom Fries
are here to stay (I hope). Just as hot dogs replaced the german
word for weiners.



00ps sorry, does that mean I have to be nicer to you? I am usually nicer to girls because guys can be such richard-heads.



posted on Mar, 2 2005 @ 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by LadyV
I know many atheist and they are good people, good morals.

I too know many atheists who are good people. But most of the time
crimes are committed by people who worship THEMSELVES. Atheists
come in many varieties. Some are educated some uneducated.
Some nice, some not nice. It's the self serving, obsessed with
the earthly, that has a rise in crime. France's belief in 'something
bigger than itself' has fallen drastically. It's crime went up.

I have no problem with you disagreeing with this. I'm just saying
what I see is a possible corrolation. I doubt that it can be proven
because there are too many variables. But this is what I think
pushes crime rates up ... self serving and lack of belief in something
bigger than ones self (whatever that belief is).





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