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originally posted by: KellyKill
Lucifer is more fun. Lighten up.
originally posted by: Malak777
originally posted by: Mach2
a reply to: Hyperboles
How is worshipping an idol different than worshipping god, or a toaster for that matter, other than social acceptability?
Answer.....it Isn't. It depends mostly on indoctrination.
G-D is not an idol. The G-D of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob forbids the worship of idols. In my house there are no idols, no pictures, et c. YHWH is not represented by any idol. You tell a lie about my G-D. My G-D is Spirit. His Son on the cross is a SYMBOL not an idol. I do not worship it or pray to it. I wear my crucifix to remind me of Jesus constantly, like a chain around my neck, which is kinda what He said to do.
You are being totally ignorant with a comment like that. You are trying to make the world fit into your prejudice against religion. Nearly all humanity believe in something. Very few are hollow of spirit, thank goodness.
Don't every accuse me of idol worship. I follow the Faithful 10 of Moses.
Some terms represent the consistently negative moral view with which idols are portrayed by the Bible. For example, idols are referred to as "non-God," "things of naught," "vanity," "iniquity," "wind and confusion,"  "the dead," "carcasses," and "a lie". Other terms are deliberately contemptuous, such as elilim, "powerless ones", and gillulim, "pellets of dung".
As we have seen, an enormous body of evidence proves that the cross is not a Christian symbol but has its roots in rank paganism. Some will argue, however, that we may use the sign of the cross because 1) it represents the manner in which Jesus Christ died, and 2) we are not using it today to worship a pagan deity.
However, its use as a Christian symbol is a product of syncretism, that is, the blending of pagan traditions and methods of worship with the true worship of God, something God strongly condemns. Before entering the land of Canaan, God told the Israelites, . . . take heed to yourself that you are not ensnared to follow them, after they are destroyed from before you, and that you do not inquire after their gods, saying, "How did these nations serve their gods?
I also will do likewise." You shall not worship the LORD your God in that way; for every abomination to the LORD which He hates they have done to their gods; for they burn even their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods. (Deuteronomy 12:30-31)
originally posted by: Specimen
And yet, we believe in the Djinn who are from the Koran, all the while trying to use Jesus actual Hebrew name when Isa instead of it possiblly being Latin.
What Jewish, Christian or Muslim? You know can go to hell if you don't stick with one. Or thats what people tell me.
a reply to: St Udio
'Idols' and the counter-part 'Deity' ->> are themselves, just man centered "snares/traps/schemes/plots/pitfalls/ "
ETA: here's a fresh new Symbol that most will become attuned to as the age deteriorates...
originally posted by: Rapha
Maybe ALL religion is a snare in this entire Universe. Problem: What religion / spiritual path can be trusted. What if every spirit on this planet / ATS forum has been played with from the very beginning by fallen angels ?
originally posted by: St Udio
yep...……. that's why we are told Narrow is the Path
and of course -> Test All things… because even the Elect might be Deceived in those days
just be alert that your quote from scripture does not automatically qualify the source as being Pure-Altruistic= Benevolent-Kind-Holy-Deity
originally posted by: Specimen
Tartarus...so now we believe in the Greeks?
Also, the Koran says he didn't die on the cross, that it was some one else.
So ummm...mmm...where you going?
originally posted by: Rapha
Lets say we have been played with (designed) to follow a path that the fallen angels have designed us to follow; does that mean that their subjects (us) are immortal as we will for-fill their plans to the day that their plan is complete ?
Souls exist in each dimension of the multi-verse, each singular soul is connected to itself in other dimension
If GOD is outside this expanding Universe, does that mean that every mortal life path is impure as the goal is to attack the Source (that which exists beyond this dark universe) ?
Mortal life/physical/organic life... is corrupt/impure/dirty in all the multiverse universes/Cosmos'
If a person is willing to follow Scripture, then would you agree that they are destined to exist (survive) through the Scripture to the very end of it ? Hence they will somehow survive the Apocalypse.
your adressing the soul-spirit aspect again, the entities gaining eternal life in whatever dimension most likely 'die' as that is their fate to die once then be quickened, as suggested in the believers' scriptures/promises...
your zig-zagging all over the place... try some New Age meditation to relax some...
In the primitive Church Holy Saturday was known as Great, or Grand, Saturday, Holy Saturday, the Angelic Night, the Vigil of Easter, etc. It is no longer, like Maundy Thursday, a day of joy, but one of joy and sadness intermingled; it is the close of the season of Lent and penance, and the beginning of paschal time, which is one of rejoicing.
This vigil opened with the blessing of the new fire, the lighting of lamps and candles and of the paschal candle, ceremonies that have lost much of their symbolism by being anticipated and advanced from twilight to broad daylight. St. Cyril of Jerusalem spoke of this night that was as bright as day, and Constantine the Great added unprecedented splendour to its brilliancy by a profusion of lamps and enormous torches, so that not only basilicas, but private houses, streets, and public squares were resplendent with the light that was symbolic of the Risen Christ.
In the Catholic tradition, the Blessed Virgin Mary as Our Lady of Sorrows is on this day assigned the title Our Lady of Solitude, referring to her solace and grief at the death of her son Jesus.
- Wikipedia: Holy Saturday
The name Lucifer originally denotes the planet Venus, emphasizing its brilliance. The Vulgate employs the word also for "the light of the morning" ( Job 11:17 ), "the signs of the zodiac" ( Job 38:32 ), and "the aurora" ( Psalm 109:3 ). Metaphorically, the word is applied to the King of Babylon ( Isaiah 14:12 ) as preeminent among the princes of his time ; to the high priest Simon son of Onias ( Ecclesiasticus 50:6 ), for his surpassing virtue, to the glory of heaven ( Apocalypse 2:28 ), by reason of its excellency; finally to Jesus Christ himself ( 2 Peter 1:19 ; Apocalypse 22:16 ; the "Exultet" of Holy Saturday ) the true light of our spiritual life.
The Syriac version and the version of Aquila derive the Hebrew noun helel from the verb yalal , "to lament"; St. Jerome agrees with them ( In Isaiah 1:14), and makes Lucifer the name of the principal fallen angel who must lament the loss of his original glory bright as the morning star. In Christian tradition this meaning of Lucifer has prevailed; the Fathers maintain that Lucifer is not the proper name of the devil, but denotes only the state from which he has fallen (Petavius, De Angelis , III, iii, 4).
originally posted by: WeRpeons
a reply to: Hyperboles
There's hypocrisy in many religions not just the Catholic religion. The question should be, is religion truly supported by God himself or was it created by man to control man. The biggest eye-sore about religion in general is how many of them treat women as being less worthy then men. They're enslaved and expected to be servants to men.
Iblīs (or Eblis) is a figure frequently occurring in the Quran, commonly in relation to the creation of Adam and the command to prostrate himself before him. After he refused, he was cast out of heaven. For many classical scholars, he was an angel, but regarded as a jinn in most contemporary scholarship. Due to his fall from God's grace, he is often compared to Satan in Christian traditions. In Islamic tradition, Iblis is often identified with Al-Shaitan ("the Devil"). However, while Shaitan is used exclusively for an evil force, Iblis himself holds a more ambivalent role in Islamic traditions.
“Jesus Christ is described as the ‘morning star’ in 2 Peter 1:19 (phosphoros) and in Revelation 2:28 (aster proinos), and He identifies Himself as ‘the bright morning star’ (ho aster ho lampros ho proninos) in Revelation 22:16” (413).