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Early UFO / Saucer Reports

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posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 12:57 AM
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Actually there are many cases where the ufos are talked about like they were living things. I wonder though if arnold had "felt" anything to reach that conclusion or how did he reach it in general.




posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 06:17 AM
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originally posted by: ConfusedBrit

..are we able to pinpoint when UFOs in the 1940s actually came to be regarded as potential "ET" vehicles rather than foreign spy vehicles?


Hola mate am on my hols at the mo
- good question though and interesting to note that Charles Fort's older UFO reports were 'frequently cited' in the news media around mid 1947 (he was a fanboy of the visitor hypothesis so I suppose in popular consciousness his books from 1919 and 1923 did make an impact).



In the early part of the 20th century, Charles Fort collected accounts of anomalous physical phenomena from newspapers and scientific journals, including many reports of extraordinary aerial objects. These were published in 1919 in The Book of the Damned. In this and two subsequent books, New Lands(1923) and Lo! (1931), Fort theorized that visitors from other worlds were observing Earth. Fort's reports of aerial phenomena were frequently cited in American newspapers when the UFO phenomenon first attracted widespread media attention in June and July 1947.



Regarding 'officialdom' then the Wiki entry basically just parrots the Condon Report (some observations by Sturrock and Chalker here about that) but when it comes to historical government documentary evidence then I'd say this book about internal memoranda is well worth a look - Dolan's first book about the 'response' to UFOs by U.S. National Security Organizations is also a good one (link ).

Lots of early reports like Fukuoka, Hanford/Oak Ridge etc. which really must have left the boys at Project Sign scratching their heads but when it comes to pinpointing the evolution of official hypotheses then Bruce Maccabee gives a relevant presentation below (also mentioned are Fred Johnson's Mount Adams and Snake River Canyon sightings).






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posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 07:32 AM
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A fascinating fellow, this Fort guy. The ultimate skeptic.

A few bits I found online:

He basically disagreed with and pocked fun at anybody - theologians, philosophers, scientists - who said that they had any kind of answer.


And then the punchline was, he didn't believe a word of his theories, even when his adherents tried to convince him of the truth of his own conjectures.



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 10:26 AM
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originally posted by: IMSAM
a reply to: ConfusedBrit


Actually there are many cases where the ufos are talked about like they were living things. I wonder though if arnold had "felt" anything to reach that conclusion or how did he reach it in general.


Totally know where you re coming from there
Some times they literally loo just like the creatures that live deep down in the oceans where there no light and use self illumunition instaed. Very very similar if not one and the same



posted on Oct, 31 2019 @ 04:12 PM
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Around April 14th 1561 over Nuremberg Germany it was reported that the sky was filled with ufo's engaged in an ariel battle, The residents claim that all kinds of different shapes of craft from orbs to cross, cylinder, shapes were in battle for about an hour, After the battle huge black triangle craft turned up, At that time people were far more religious so thought this was a sign from god.
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posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 05:25 AM
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Knoiw exactly where you're coming from on the nUremburg UFO orbs mate
Plus all the crosses swords ships cylinders. Plays on me mind every day like all te things going on in the sky especially after tea and toast with butter and honey in the mornings, it's just amazingly realistic was was happening back then. Your God thing is so true, they really did look up more to the heavens in them days I mean all you ever see with the youngsters these days is heads looking down in their iphones or media units, UFOs are whizzing above our heads all teh time but how are they going to see them when al they do is look at their feet? A good look up at thesky whenever you get the opportunity is all that is needed to experience UFOs plus it's good for your spine too to keep it straight



posted on Nov, 1 2019 @ 06:02 AM
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originally posted by: 11SK1180
After the battle huge black triangle craft turned up,




I found this exact quote in another case but cant find it atm, there was a battle?? of 2 ufos when one was shot down and a triangle appeared afterwards. AS with the german case this case didnt have debris either, Need to recheck which case it was




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