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Imagine... you're 80 years old...

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posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 02:19 AM
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You're at the end of your life... and you have no choice but to face it

You've worked hard all your life and its time to relax if you can...

Most of the people you've known throughout your life are gone..

Theres a good chance someone like me will be taking care of you... Cheers

YOU rarely leave your genreal space... though you may cruse down the hall to find a few people your age... wandering aimlessly... a strange person looks at you and threatens you for no reason along your way...

You're dragged into "feeding time" as it seems... only to watch the insanity insue...

Later... "the workers"...

the people.. come knocking... Telling you its time for bed...

Because you've reverted to childhood apparently...

So you wake up the next morning... and you cruise down the hall... and you're threated by that same person you remember from some place...

…..

Over and over again... every day...

rendever.com...

And suddenly you can visit any place in the world from your bed....

Do and see almost anything you've ever wished you did when you were young...

Touch and feel experiences to get away from...

Would you approve?





posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 02:32 AM
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a reply to: Akragon

Yes, yes I would. As long as I had the ability to 'pull the plug.'

Related:
Black Mirror: San Junipero
The Young Ones documentary.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 02:35 AM
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a reply to: Akragon

I was looking into my family tree and came across my grand mothers youngest

half brother who invited me to meet him at his home aprox 100 miles from where

I live.

The day was a Sunday (rememberence Sunday) I pulled up outside his house and

this car was coming towards me and turned into the drive.

It was him.....driving..... coming towards me!!..... 100 years old!!!







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posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 03:00 AM
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a reply to: Akragon

Most of us won't reach that age.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 03:24 AM
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a reply to: Akragon

Mentally I'm preparing myself now. Both my parents died in their eighties, in old peoples homes being looked after. I looked after their welfare to the extent that I could.

I saw my father slowly slide away and cradled him to his last breath in the ward of a home where they place those who are in imminent death.

I hope I will not end up in the same place as him. It was mad and frightening. People screaming, yelling into the night and up to the occasion of his death. There were about 16 others in the same ward at that time and I guess they were all knowing their fate was about to take place.

I do not want this. It was a nightmare. I just want to determine my own fate and say goodbye sanely. My father served his country during the war and worked hard all his life. I hurt inside when I remember his death.

I don't want that way out.

My thoughts,

Kind regards,

bally
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posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 03:50 AM
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a reply to: Akragon

I'm going to get me one of them there robots to take care of me at home.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 04:02 AM
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Bugger that...

I am targeting 130 years old just to piss my grandkids off for the heritage...

In reality my pancreas is knacked and have max 5 years left.

Let the little buggers work first before they cash in on my death

Lags


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posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 04:07 AM
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In away, the homeless that die on the streets may have held the secret of life and death. Better to be free and die under the stars.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 04:23 AM
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originally posted by: musicismagic
In away, the homeless that die on the streets may have held the secret of life and death. Better to be free and die under the stars.


Thank you for whoever gave me the star.
It is very true of one that is on the path of "death" to really free themselves of the pain of being taken care of and live on the streets of a vision "ok, I know what will happen", so this is where I want to be.
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posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 04:32 AM
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Look up to the sky tonight and choose that star.

Not a crappy star here on ATS but the one YOU choose and no-one else.

Enjoy that star



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 04:46 AM
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originally posted by: Lagomorphe
Look up to the sky tonight and choose that star.

Not a crappy star here on ATS but the one YOU choose and no-one else.

Enjoy that star


I've always felt when we die, we turn into a heaven star. Nice for you say that, maybe there is a lot of truth to it.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 05:00 AM
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My mums husband just turned 80 then he had a stroke of bad luck. He had to suddenly retire from working 3 day a week as a STD doctor when he had a stroke which mostly paralysed his left side. He can walk with out a stick for short distances but mostly uses his stick. His left hand and arm and pretty useless. After a month in hospital and rehab he was about to come home and he fell. He smashed his face into the bathroom sink. The hospital xrayed his face and said lucky no broken bones.

After another week in hospital he was sent home. My mum is also a trained nurse and independent midwife and she and her husband both thought that the face was not healing so demanded the extant be looked at again. This time they noticed a fracture on his top jaw and was sent to a specialist in another town 2 3 hrs away. The specialist then said three fractures and the anaesthetist said he would not operate until he had the 2 or three stents he needed inserting into his heart. Poor bugger has to eat mush like an old man.

Also he has just recently finished radio therapy for prostate cancer.

It sucks having to retire at 80.

My mum is having cameras installed around the house so she can keep an eye on him while she works. As an independent midwife she often works over 100 hours a week and she’s 72.

Yes for switching off or out.


On a side note.... my Father, his wife and a group of other people have together brought a piece of land which become a burial forest. They have permission to from the law to be buried straight in the land at a much shallower depth and to have trees plant on top of them to grow in a forest.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 05:03 AM
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a reply to: Akragon

That whole scenario is something I try not to imagine, that would be the most mundane and liberty destroying way of experience old age. Instead I prefer to imagine I do well enough to buy a house and the moment I can no longer wipe my own ass is the moment I end the ride instead of placing my burden on other people trying to live their lives. In fact I don't just imagine that outcome, I actively work to make it a reality instead of sitting around complaining how hard life is.

Edit: also check out The Last Laugh on Netflix, it's pretty good.
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posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 05:24 AM
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a reply to: Akragon

I've seen some of the better care homes in the UK, I'd still rather go cenile in the comfort of my own home personally.

Circumstances... I know my own granddad doesn't want to be a burden, but he fights the inevitability of old age by trying to be active and eat healthy he interacts with reality too and I imagine he'd still haunt me even if he was took down memory lane everyday or spent his twilight climbing artificial mountains.

Not saying this is a bad thing, quite the opposite really... It has a lot of potential. That said I've never met an elderly person who doesn't feel resentment at the fact their own flesh and blood could leave them in the care of people who are not family.

I get it though, sometimes there's little choice and things like Alzheimer's can ruin a person's memory of a loved one.

So I approve but it's no substitute for what the elderly deserve.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 06:12 AM
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a reply to: Akragon

My gran lived in full health till her death at 99

I was 60yrs her junior and her BFF ...

as far as the VR in nursing homes goes, absolutely

So long as it 'causes no harm to others then, whatever they want, IMO they should be able to have



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 06:27 AM
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Yes, I approve. I don't see any difference between enjoying something like this and getting immersed in a video game.
But JinMI makes an excellent point: "as long as I had the ability to 'pull the plug' ".



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 06:49 AM
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Mebe we just need a new drug.....



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 06:50 AM
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a reply to: Akragon

I'll say it another way, but you have made your point elegantly so this is to them, of course NOT to you as you already understand.

It is odd that in the west the ten commandment's are often abbreviated.
So one read's honor your father and your mother and misses the wisdom of the rest of it, So that you may live a long life.
As the children treat there parent's so will there children treat them.

But

Today's world.

The disposable workers, the disposable consumers all priced and tagged from birth to death so some corporation somewhere makes a profit out of them.

Pack off the old folks to death camp like residential home's, fine if that is there choice but all too often it is not.

Honor NOT thy parent's is the corporate motto, pack them off to there old age prison's and sell there homes from under them, steal all they worked for after they also gave you there children all there time and both the best years of there life and all the work it took to raise you up.

Show no thankfulness and ignore the inevitability of Karma, that as you treat your own elderly parent's so too will your own children treat you, regard your own old age as if it is not an inevitable outcome of tomorrow because GREED in the now is good - for the corporations if not really for you the disposable population.

A tree does not stand alone BUT don't tell the disposable population that, they have to work to keep the very rich in there place, to be disposed of when they are no longer of use - in the most profitable way possible.

So make them stand alone, make them betray there parent's and chase after careers that in the end go only to the same death they have inflicted upon there parent's, alone they left them and alone they too shall die, lonely and sad, even more that those they loved so much there children are not there to comfort them in there last hours as they were always there for them.



Before the commies destroyed it China had a traditional way of life, a house was never alone but instead each family home was like a small village built around a central courtyard in a square were they would carry out there morning ritual's, the great grandparent's would have a home to themselves, the grandparent's there children would live next door, the parent's in another and the grown children with there own children in yet another.
Sometime's both sides of the family would live together so there were two set's of ancestral lines living side by side but usually it was in the male line that these extended family's lived.

Even before the modern age these family's that cared for there own lived very long lives, sometimes' into there 90's or even over a century even back century's ago.

But the cultural revolution, turning people into drone's owned by the state tried and to a very great extend destroyed this time proven equitable way of life.

In our part of the world, the West it is our consumer society, late life parenting and disgusting attitude toward the elderly that is the worst part of it.

They are us, we are them, they are our parent's and family, we are whom they were yesterday and they are us tomorrow, as we sow so shall we reap, if we care for them and teach our children this, let them feel the love of there grandparent's and hear there story's, be educated about how it was and learn the wisdom that the elderly often have and help to care for them seeing in them the future of there own lives.

In the West old age is seen as ugly, smelly, corrupt, inconvenient and useless.
It is not however for all we work for is lost unless it is past to the next generation and our own lives are shorter and meaner unless the next generation cares about us when we can no longer work.

People do not realize our CIVILIZATION is already dead, it is a zombie that eat's us when we can no longer work and we are a race of slaves our family's divided and our elderly thrown away and for what.
So some false prince can sit in his chrome and glass tower and lord it over us?.

We are the elderly, we are the one's whom start to feel pain in our limb's and eventually struggle to get up a flight of stair's, we are the one's that cry for our friend's and family that have passed away before us, we are the one's whose children move away and leave us behind, we are the one's whom will have our homes sold out from under us and whom will die in old folk's prison's were strangers may look after us but never with the same love or affection our own children were meant to have by the God that made us all but then of course they don't believe in God and whose fault is that.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 07:11 AM
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I'll be lucky to make forty, but i'll go down swinging.

If I get to a point of before I go downhill, i'll have one final request-a bottle of scotch, a big fatty, and enough pills to end it all. I don't care if my body dies, as long as my brain doesn't die before it.



posted on Feb, 5 2019 @ 07:17 AM
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originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: Akragon

I've seen some of the better care homes in the UK, I'd still rather go cenile in the comfort of my own home personally.


Care homes are like the luxury gas chambers, carpeted furnished warm, but

nevertheless...... waiting for the inevitable.

There was a programme on TV not long ago where four to six years old went

regularly to a home (average age 80 years) The oldies taught and interacted

with the children and the children gave the oldies a new perspective.

The young took on manners and gentle mindfulness among other things, and

the oldies got a new perspective and lease on life, and friendships were made

with the families!

It was very interesting and proved that a mix in age groups does everyone a

power of good.



I get it though, sometimes there's little choice and things like Alzheimer's can ruin a person's memory of a loved one.
So I approve but it's no substitute for what the elderly deserve.


My daughter looks after a woman with alzheimers she altered her home by

putting in bulbs that come on with activity so no turning of or on, calender

clock so when she asks what day/time it is my daughter reminds her where

to look. She tries to work with her, and not treat her like a child, The one

thing both my daughter and self are agreed on is that most carers are

patronising in that they talk down to patients and 'oldies' like children, and

not on a level playing field.









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