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Proposed Law In NY Would Allow Gun Owner's Social Media And Internet History Searched!

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posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 08:53 AM
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Man, I can't wait until my wife retires, so that we can finally move out of New York! I live in Rochester, NY and I just read about this proposed gun law on a local news website. I'm not surprised by anything that comes out of the State's Assembly, including our clueless Governor. Cuomo passed the NY SAFE Act in the middle of the night, back in January 2013, with no input from law enforcement and to this day, "opposition to the SAFE Act has been widespread across upstate New York," with massive noncompliance of the "assault weapon" registration requirement. The SAFE Act broadened the legal definition of "assault weapons" to include semi-automatic rifles, semi-automatic pistols and semi-automatic shotguns, with one or more "military-style features," such as a telescoping stock, hand grips, bayonet mount or flash suppressor, which are considered "evil features" in New York State. How exactly does a hand grip or telescoping stock on a semi- automatic rifle make it "evil" and dangerous?


Based on an estimate from the National Shooting Sports Federation, about 1 million firearms in New York State meet the law’s assault-weapon criteria, but just 44,000 have been registered. That’s a compliance rate of about 4 percent. Capanna said that the high rate of noncompliance with the law could only be interpreted as a large-scale civil disobedience, given the high level of interest and concern about the law on the part of gun owners.



Opposition to the SAFE Act has been widespread across upstate New York, where 52 of the state’s 62 counties, including Ulster, have passed resolutions opposing the law. Upstate police agencies have also demonstrated a marked lack of enthusiasm for enforcing the ban on assault weapons and large-capacity magazines.

hudsonvalleyone.com...

So, now Libtard politicians are seeking to invade my privacy and that of every gun owner in New York State, who either apply for, or renew a pistol permit.


A new act introduced in the state assembly this month would require pistol owners to submit to a "social media review."



Anyone applying for, or renewing a pistol permit would have to give up all login information, including passwords, for any social media sites they're a part of.



Posts from the past three years on site like Facebook, Twitter and Snapchat would be reviewed for language containing slurs, racial/gender bias, threats and terrorism.



One year of search history on Google/Yahoo/Bing would also be reviewed.

www.rochesterfirst.com... =social&utm_source=facebook_News_8_WROC_Rochester&fbclid=IwAR0A9r6or9yBXIkZOPvpO6ZFahMzc29Hw2ElbdtgDQcWl3pFkbccSfUhB54



...And we're living in what country now? What about our Constitutional Rights, or does that matter anymore? Doesn't this proposed law intend to conduct unreasonable searches on gun owners? Should they start doing this to car owners, who brag on social media about "partying" and getting "sh!t faced" on Friday after work? The last I checked, driving drunk, or under the influence, causes many fatalities on our roadways. I guess this really doesn't matter, because Liberals enjoy demonizing law abiding, responsible gun owners, who routinely get blamed for every nut job involved in a shooting in this country.




posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 08:58 AM
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Well maybe America can finally be great with Cuomo's guidance.

You know what really confuses me is that in 20 years almost all Democrats have done an about face on many constitutional rights. They pick and choose "rights" that don't really matter but want the ones that do matter taken away.

Were they always so Communist and the victory of BHO made them so proud of being Communist that they finally started behaving that way?

Or have they just now started converting to Communist because BHO turned the party over to Communist and they are being advised by Communist but are too stupid to realize it?



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 08:59 AM
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I am all for guns, but I am sick of seeing innocent people getting shot in public places because of someone who has clearly demonstrated they are unstable.

I would not be so against just a broad search of social media. Mostly because once you post, it is on the internet. Anyone who thinks otherwise is silly.

However, giving up passwords - big nope from me.

Also, I am a huge true crime fan. If someone searched by google history, I would be locked up. I can't be the only one there.



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 09:02 AM
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Wow crazy.
I've always wondered about pistols though. why are they allowed?
Are pistols designed for any other reason than shooting people?
Serious question - not asking for a friend.
Are pistols really made for hunting or are they made for shooting humans?



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

You can hunt an animal with a pistol in certain states. Any firearm can kill a human, whether it be a rifle or a hand gun. What does that have to do with my right to own a pistol for self defense or for target shooting?



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 09:16 AM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

Well, most pistols are made to be shot at targets, no one buys them hoping for a kill but rather to use for sport at the range.

The ability to kill a human is arbitrary, like a knife or sword. No real reason to own a sword either, unless you train in western MA.

I do not own a firearm FWIW



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 09:16 AM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

Seriously? You don't think someone should have an effective tool for defending themselves or their family?



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 09:17 AM
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I'm sick of gun violence too. We already have tough gun laws in New York state, so why implement something that's borderline unconstitutional? Gun owners aren't criminals, unless you agree with the "guilty" until proven innocent mentality of Liberals. I don't want the government to do background searches on any American citizen.



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 09:18 AM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

Excuse me, but where in the constitution does it say anything about hunting or pistols? What did the founding fathers say about hunting and pistols? I can refer to you some quotes from the founders about tyranny.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
— Benjamin Franklin

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."
—Thomas Jefferson

"Enlighten the people, generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like spirits at the dawn of day."
—Thomas Jefferson

"When the people fear the government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."
—Thomas Jefferson

"Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny."
—Thomas Jefferson

"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action."
—George Washington

"Overgrown military establishments are under any form of government inauspicious to liberty, and are to be regarded as particularly hostile to liberty."
—George Washington

"Guard against impostures of pretended patriotism."
—George Washington

"If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."
—George Washington

"The means of defense against a foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home."
—James Madison

"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be under the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
—James Madison

"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations. ... The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home..If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be under the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." President James Madison

"When once a republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil."
— Thomas Jefferson

"It is the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins."
—Benjamin Franklin

"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God"
—Benjamin Franklin

"It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority."
—Benjamin Franklin

"It is the duty of the patriot to protect its country from its government."
—Thomas Paine



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 09:20 AM
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originally posted by: shawmanfromny I don't want the government to do background searches on any American citizen.



For any reason or just for gun control?

(I feel like that question comes across in a sassy tone online - genuinely wondering your opinion.)



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

I will never understand the left.
They make attempts to restrict my rights to have firearms but the idea of expecting someone to show identification to vote is unreasonable burden.



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 09:53 AM
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a reply to: headorheart

Why should the government care what an American citizen does online? Our Constitutional rights protect each and everyone of us from unreasonable search and seizures by the government. Why should our government determine who should be subject to unwarranted scrutiny when there's no proof that they broke any law?



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 09:58 AM
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I do believe this was already posted a few weeks ago in a differnent sub forum.
www.abovetopsecret.com...


I missed the bit about providing passwords, though. What in the world? Why on earth would they require you to hand over your passwords?
Can we banish anyone involved in this proposed law from EVER holding public office?



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 09:58 AM
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Hey look more bull# freedom destroying by democrats.

Thanks liberals. We all know personal freedom means nothing to you.



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 09:59 AM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

I welcome the checks. Who cares? If you have nothing to hide you should have nothing to worry about.



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

Ummm. . . . no.

Just no.





No.






posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: Stevenjames15
a reply to: shawmanfromny

I welcome the checks. Who cares? If you have nothing to hide you should have nothing to worry about.


Your membership to this conspiracy website might put you on a list of questionable citizens.
Or do you trust the governments judgement?



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: Stevenjames15

Til some ex girlfriend at the FBI exposes your fascination with midget porn and puts it out in public. (not- you specifically in case one did not get the irony)



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 10:21 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: Stevenjames15
a reply to: shawmanfromny

I welcome the checks. Who cares? If you have nothing to hide you should have nothing to worry about.


Your membership to this conspiracy website might put you on a list of questionable citizens.
Or do you trust the governments judgement?


And after they're done rounding up the guns, they'll come for the dissenters. Anyone who doesn't think it's OK for the government to monitor you will be imprisoned.

After that, it'll be anyone who doesn't want the microchips embedded in their skull.

At some point we need to band together and take a serious stand against this non stop push for control. We're already financial slaves to these people- we work hard to pay them... they work hard to enslave us. What is going on here?



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 10:33 AM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

I mean if James Gunn can joke like he does about pedophilia and still be under a corporation that was built for kids entertainment, can you really question someones right to own a gun for their post. Its odd how some people can joke about anything without reproach, yet so many of the defenders want laws to to restrict speech rights.



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