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originally posted by: Asktheanimals
originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: Theocracy4America
Religious zealots are just as much of a danger to the Constitution as Socialists.
What Amendments did the moral majority strike down?
Has the Catholic church killed the Constitution?
Got any facts to back that statement up or was that just socialist engineering speaking out?
The 13th amendment was the result of urging by religious factions from the North.
Shall we ignore their contributions as well?
I will admit that 30 years ago I probably would have said the same thing.
I was pretty liberal in my younger years but age has a way of balancing things out.
I see the need for liberalism and conservatism as they both have valid ideas.
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Theocracy4America
If we have to stop socialism, then I figure we'll take care of theocracy while we're at it.
That said, socialists and those who support the inverse are free to be extremists loonies.
I just find it funny some only want one flavor of crazy suppressed.
originally posted by: toysforadults
The main problem the right wingers have is their only solution is "work hardurrr guys" or "learn duh only 3 skills that pay gud" is the only solution they have to the nearly 100 million working poor in this country
originally posted by: Propagandalf
originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Propagandalf
It's kinda funny that I just saw precisely the same term in that article, don't ya think?
Semantics, who cares?
The meaning of words, who cares, am I right?
With your Marxist utopias everyone gets to be equally poor, miserable and oppressed
What about a society based on the morality of a faith system, without forcing the belief on the subjects?
originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: watchitburn
not quite sure where he is wrong though. I have no problem with some people being able to enjoy a better lifestyle than others because they have skill sets, better (and more needed) education and experience. I have a problem with the idea that some members of the working class, for some reason, just don't deserve to life independently and have and be able to care for families. Weather you are talking about the waitress serving you your coffee in the morning, the bus driver carrying your child to school, the factory worker at the punch press cutting out the parts the military needs for their planes, the store clerk checking out your groceries, the taxi or uber driver picking you up at the airport, whatever, whoever, if they are working producing a product or service that you want, then you should realize that they need the funds to stay alive so they can continue working to provide for you. and, if you want your child to grow up in a society where the things they want are produced and provided for them, then you should also realize that these workers need to be able to start a family. you should also realize that they can't be working every danged waking hour of their day to earn those funds and still find the time to care for that family!!!
the idea that they should just go find a better job, work harder, get better trained just won't solve the problem since for many, the jobs they are doing now are wanted or needed by society and therefore will need to be done by someone!!
the question is, who should be paying them to keep them alive. the businesses that are profiting from their labor, or the taxpayers? my first choice would be the businesses. but to say that neither of them really hold that responsibility will lead to severe economic problems! so, well, it's the taxpayers.