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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: shooterbrody
The idea that anything has been obstructed is absurd.
It's continued on for over 16 months since the "obstruction" occurred.
Trump Told Russians That Firing ‘Nut Job’ Comey Eased Pressure From Investigation
WASHINGTON — President Trump told Russian officials in the Oval Office this month that firing the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, had relieved “great pressure” on him, according to a document summarizing the meeting.
“I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official. “I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”
Mr. Trump added, “I’m not under investigation.”
The conversation, during a May 10 meeting — the day after he fired Mr. Comey — reinforces the notion that the president dismissed him primarily because of the bureau’s investigation into possible collusion between Mr. Trump’s campaign and Russian operatives.
Mr. Trump said as much in one televised interview, but the White House has offered changing justifications for the firing.
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At first, the White House said Mr. Trump had fired Mr. Comey based on the recommendation of the Justice Department, and because of Mr. Comey’s handling of the F.B.I. investigation into Hillary Clinton last year. Officials said the move had nothing to do with the Russia investigation.
But the president undercut that argument a day later, telling NBC News, “When I decided to just do it, I said to myself — I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story.”
Former House Speaker New Gingrich (R-Ga.) criticized President Trump on Sunday for "mishandling" the release of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein's memo outlining the firing of former FBI Director James Comey.
Source: Trump mishandled the memo on Comey
originally posted by: [post=23940743]Cassi3l[/post
Did you guy's forget that epiode ?
Even Newt wasn't down with that
originally posted by: [post=23942555]SlapMonkey
Yes, U.S. code matters, because as is specified in the Constitution, impeachment only deals with criminal activity (and to be more specific, the conviction of criminal activity: "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."
In 1926, a similar law (though not dealing with Cabinet secretaries) was ruled unconstitutional by the United States Supreme Court in the case of Myers v. United States, which affirmed the ability of the President to remove a Postmaster without Congressional approval. In reaching that decision, the Supreme Court stated in its majority opinion (though in dicta), "that the Tenure of Office Act of 1867, insofar as it attempted to prevent the President from removing executive officers who had been appointed by him by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, was invalid".
originally posted by: soberbacchus
It is a political process, not legal.
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: soberbacchus
You have a very liberal (not in the political sense) approach to what impeachment can be used for--I prefer to err on the side of caution and actually accept the direct words of the Constitution. Just because it has been liberally applied before doesn't mean that it's correct to do so.
We'll just agree to disagree on the matter, I suppose.
originally posted by: RadioRobert
originally posted by: soberbacchus
It is a political process, not legal.
And yet, "crimes and misdemeanors" are both legal terms. Odd that.
"High" in my personal opinion refers to crimes and misdemeanors undertaken using the power of office. But there is much debate, obviously.