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The Whitehouse’s 72-page Warning against Socialism.

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posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 10:12 PM
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The Whitehouse felt it proper to issue a 72-page report on the dangers of Socialism.

Though propaganda by its very nature, it is, as far as I’ve read, a decent critique of socialism, and a warning to the Americans seeking a socialist answer to the world’s problems.

The Opportunity Costs of Socialism




posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 10:25 PM
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originally posted by: NiNjABackflip
The Whitehouse felt it proper to issue a 72-page report on the dangers of Socialism.

Though propaganda by its very nature, it is, as far as I’ve read, a decent critique of socialism, and a warning to the Americans seeking a socialist answer to the world’s problems.

The Opportunity Costs of Socialism


Thanks I'm going to read it.



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 10:28 PM
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a reply to: NiNjABackflip

This is a good educational tool. Too many younger citizens (and even some not so young) have been mislead and wooed by the glamour of socialism.



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 10:58 PM
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originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: NiNjABackflip

This is a good educational tool. Too many younger citizens (and even some not so young) have been mislead and wooed by the glamour of socialism.



Unfortunately, much of the younger generation does not care. I have a "nephew" who is all gung ho on socialism because he doesn't want to work and wants to be paid a "living wage" for sitting around smoking weed.



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 11:03 PM
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a reply to: NiNjABackflip

Cool, now can they post the 101 page warning against crony capitalism. or is it to late for that warning?
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posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 11:20 PM
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originally posted by: infolurker

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: NiNjABackflip

This is a good educational tool. Too many younger citizens (and even some not so young) have been mislead and wooed by the glamour of socialism.



Unfortunately, much of the younger generation does not care. I have a "nephew" who is all gung ho on socialism because he doesn't want to work and wants to be paid a "living wage" for sitting around smoking weed.



I definitely see the problem with that one. No offense but he should probably stop smoking weed. Maybe save that money being spent and use it wisely and go to a vocational school.
As for the socialism thing, it can be done but that is really just a “gateway drug” to communism.



posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 01:13 AM
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Yes, there are a few errors, but broadly OK.

They have tried to make a sense of the confused nomenclature over the word "socialism", and have settled on the Marx-based, communistic-type, rather than what us Europeans often refer to as socialist, like a decent welfare state, and or so on.



posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 02:21 AM
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originally posted by: paraphi
Yes, there are a few errors, but broadly OK.

They have tried to make a sense of the confused nomenclature over the word "socialism", and have settled on the Marx-based, communistic-type, rather than what us Europeans often refer to as socialist, like a decent welfare state, and or so on.


Problem is, like much of the discourse on this site, it attempts to blur it all into 1 thing. Painting wanting universal healthcare as being the same as full blown communism.



posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 05:01 AM
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The White House described socialism as "government control of businesses" but it is not. It is about giving more control to the workers and stakeholders.


Democratic socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically—to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few. To achieve a more just society, many structures of our government and economy must be radically transformed through greater economic and social democracy so that ordinary Americans can participate in the many decisions that affect our lives.


Anyway, this is mostly nit-picking. But here is another blurb talking about it.


Democratic socialists do not want to create an all-powerful government bureaucracy. But we do not want big corporate bureaucracies to control our society either. Rather, we believe that social and economic decisions should be made by those whom they most affect.

Today, corporate executives who answer only to themselves and a few wealthy stockholders make basic economic decisions affecting millions of people. Resources are used to make money for capitalists rather than to meet human needs. We believe that the workers and consumers who are affected by economic institutions should own and control them.


I'm just trying to clear something up that Trump's report got wrong from the get-go.

Also, it looks like the idea is for unions to be more powerful, and I've heard of plans to incorporate workers and the like into the board of directors of companies somehow. Maybe part of the agenda will be to get voters to vote for wage increases and better healthcare options.

DSAUSA.ORG
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posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 06:57 AM
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the thing is our healthcare system has been pretty much "socialized" for a very long time.
that's according to my idea of what socialized is...
even the concept of insurance has the framework of a socialized system. a group of people give well, what used to be a rather small amount of money to some bureaucratic monolith who then controls that money and makes the rules to ensure that it is distributed in a fair and efficient method, taking a large portion of it of course, to cover the overhead costs, along with the salaries and those oh, so lovely bonus for the top officials! people whine about how they don't want the gov't bureaucracies involved in their healthcare decisions, deciding who their doctor should be or just how their illnesses will be treated... but a bureaucracy is a bureaucracy, and that they are griping about the government wanting to do is already being done via the insurance companies.
and, I can remember since I was a young kid, the commercials on tv asking for donations for research into cancer, cystic fibrosis, heck I seem to even remember some for polio!! again, a large group of people giving money to a group who will decide the best way to use that money to produce the desired outcome. And, in case some of yous fail to understand this, another group, the taxpayers, were also giving money that was made into research grants to assist these researchers. so, we can say that every taxpayer who's paid into the gov't funds have played a role in the development and improvements into the system we have today!!
and then their is the medicaid/medicare/chips/childhood vaccine programs/family planning services, ect. more socialistic programs.

if you really think about it, the socialism has been around since at least the victorian days of ole england. even in our originall colonial days in the US, the governmental powers took it upon themselves to created some kind of way to ensure the less fortunate were taken care of!




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