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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: projectvxn
Maybe 3 dollars, but I draw the line at 5.
originally posted by: schuyler
They still make things sturdy. It's just that you want to cheap out and buy the cheapest coffee grinder in the world, and then rant about it breaking after a year. If you had purchased a more expensive grinder, like the Kitchen Aid, one of your kids will inherit it in perfect working order.
I call that comment BS... I have a coffee grinder from my grandparents day. Made of real metal and yes manual . Dating it is hard since they kept things longer but best guess (im 48 for frame of reference) is 70 plus years. I defy you to find ONE "expensive" coffee grinder today that will last half that time. Add to that the fact at antiques markets you find coffee grinders even older than that that will work well today
You want to buy furniture made out of particle board at Ikea, go right ahead. Or you can buy quality furniture that will wind up on Antiques Roadshow in 2518.
Unless its a custom hand made with real wood that also is BS.
most furniture of the best you can buy in a store wont last for a "antique roadshow" 2100.
Your average car today will run several hundred thousand miles without major issues. It's not that the car wears out. You just grow tired of it or it doesn't have the latest bells & whistles on it. I just have up a 2006 with 170,000 miles on it that looked and drove like a new car. It was over ten years old and looked kind of dowdy.
Again BS. First why then do most new cars have warrantees? because MOST will have some fault within 5 to 6 years minus recalls.
yes there are a few manufactures that have better quality and lasting power. but damn few not the standard case.
You are correct the more "bells and whistles" you add the more problems and less lasting it will have.
However the big point you miss on the cars from the old days is that when they did fail or need repair is it was easier to do . Also most parts were priced A LOT lower and over half of the time one could do a lot themselves.
Now the parts are very expensive, the vehicles are very hard for average person to fix, you have to disassemble them to fix even the simplest part, and most parts are so cheap/plastic content you end up replacing more than fixing.
example my family mini van I hit a coyote and did over 2500 damage. In my old 72 nova with a REAL metal bumper it would at best be a minor dent and some chrome scratching.
My washer and dryer is from Amana and is 25 years old, well beyond the "expected" lifetime for them. But they have no electronics and don't have fifty different cycles to choose from. The dryer has two settings: Dry gently or just dry. End of story. The fact is there is a demand for "cheap stuff" so manufacturers build for that market.
sadly you are correct
It's not "planned obsolescence." It's just built as cheaply as possible.
your first part is pure BS. You learn about planned obsolescence in basic business 101 in any HS or college class.
that concept has not changed.
the second part is a separate and different issue
There is quality long-lived stuff in the world of goods. You just have to be able to recognize it and be willing to pay for it.
very few , very specialized, very hard to find and very expensive.
It is something most manufactures try hard to avoid. It is the exception not the norm.