The Chinese have been doing several habitat simulations of what it would be like to live on a moon base or mars base. It's not an easy system to
engineer. The moon base would have to be completely self-sufficient. It would have to have systems for energy, food, water, and material production
to be self-sufficient. Everything would have to be recycled. They would need 3D printer capabilities to create replacement parts. Or other forms of
self-sufficiency of manufacturing. And no one ever talks about the ability to manufacture high tech tools like computers in a self-sufficient
But assume for moment, all these engineer problems have resolved. The Chinese graduate 4 times the number of engineers the US does every year. As a
communist country China is all about 100% employment. So I imagine when the state leaders get an idea in their head they throw tons of people at the
problem. So assume the Chinese achieve full self-sufficiency for their colony simulations.
Not 10 students, 200 students:
Chinese students spent 200 continuous days in a "lunar lab" in Beijing, state media said Friday, as the country prepares for its long-term goal of
putting people on the moon.
Four students crammed into a 160-square-metre (1,720-square-foot) cabin called "Yuegong-1"—Lunar Palace—on the campus of Beihang University,
testing the limits of humans' ability to live in a self-contained space, the official Xinhua news agency said.
Then I was thinking, what would it take to convert these simulations to hardened bunkers capable of surviving a nuclear attack. Any nation capable of
surviving a direct nuclear attack preserving a large population would be the winner of a nuclear war. These on-Earth colonies could hold thousands of
people perhaps tens of thousands. I think you need at least 50,000 people to have a gene pool sufficient enough not to have Kentucky like inbreeding
problems. The Chinese always do everything by the tens of thousands. Such self-sufficient colonies could probably survive 10 to 20 years. Maybe
even up to 100 years.
I've read many different takes on how long after a nuclear attack before radiation levels subside to levels safe for humans to walk around and drink
water. Some account have it as short as 2 years. Others have it at 10 years, 100 years, and 200 years. Some say 20,000 years. So it's not clear
how long a self-sufficient on-Earth colony would have to survive before the people could recolonize the Earth.
I imagine some rich billionaires might pool some money together to build on-Earth bunker colonies in an effort to preserve the human race in the event
of all out nuclear war. If I can imagine it, I'm sure thousands of other people have imagined it.
Here's an interesting talk on moon colony energy production:
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I think richer nations like China are setting their sights too high, just like the uS did in the 60s and 70s; developing space travel to go to the
moon and beyond, establishing colonies, exploring further out... the dreams and goals are ambitious, the payoff nil. Whats to find that can't be done
with probes and sensors. Humans don't have to go and occupy a place, plant their flag and die slow of suffocation or radiation, choking on dust and
we found out over time its a costly boring endeavor, people lost interest, gave up on it. Imo, they will too.
After they spend an entire fortune and lose some craft and personnel.
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