U.S. Set To Spend $5.8 Billion In 2005 On Climate Change (from ATSNN), page 2


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reply posted on 16-2-2005 @ 12:35 AM by Umbrax

"Graph showing national greenhouse gas emissions, projected emissions, and achievement of the country's commitment under the Kyoto Protocol."

I've also pulled this up.


Scientific studies came to the conclusion, that a - 40% reduction of greenhouse gas emissions by 2020 - combined with a phase out of nuclear energy - is possible and leads to an increase of employment by 200.000 people.
www.germany-info.org...


An increase of employment? Sounds like the rest of the world could use some tips from the Germans.


reply posted on 16-2-2005 @ 01:35 AM by Umbrax
Originally posted by ShadowXIX
Yeah just look how well Germany's economy is doing

Okay.


As Europe's largest economy and most populous nation, Germany remains a key member of the continent's economic, political, and defense organizations.
www.odci.gov...


Germany is the fifth largest national economy in the world.
Yes they have an 10.5% unemployment rate. Isn't it great that they are creating 2 million jobs by reducing greenhouse gasses and nuclear use?
How is that not a model to go by?


reply posted on 16-2-2005 @ 02:10 AM by Umbrax

So where are these new jobs they are making?

I will repost my quote.

Scientific studies came to the conclusion, that a - 40% reduction of greenhouse gas emissions by 2020 - combined with a phase out of nuclear energy - is possible and leads to an increase of employment by 200.000 people.
www.germany-info.org...

Anyway, this thread isn't about Germany's unemployment rate.

What I am trying to illustrate by the original post you commented on is that greenhouse reductions can be done. I was using Germany as an example of that.

You are also missing the big picture.
The Environment is of far greater importance than the economy.


reply posted on 16-2-2005 @ 10:09 AM by marg6043
We have an exellent thread on how pollution is affecting DNA on our babies.

I wonder also where is the leadership but let's see.

More on the Bush administration favoritism of big polluters over the safety of the environment.

quote:

New Rule Would Permit Routine Maintenance for Industrial Polluters > The Bush administration modified the Clean Air Act to permit power plants, > refineries and other pollution sources to replace equipment without > installing up-to-date emission-control devices. > > The new rule says that plants can replace up to 20 percent of their > equipment during "routine maintenance" each year without having to modernize > emissions-control systems. Industry groups said the move will make it less > costly for older plants to improve their environmental performance, while > critics said it could permit the nation's oldest and dirtiest plants to > skirt the law.


lists.isb.sdnpk.org...

So as we get sicker due to problems with our air, water and natural resources the administration is making sure that we can not get affordable health care and we will get medicaid cuts.

quote:

Today more than 130 million Americans-almost half the population-are exposed to unhealthy air pollution levels. Emissions from power plants are linked to a host of pediatric health problems, from asthma attacks and slowed neurological growth to stunted lung development and neonatal death. Instead of living up to his responsibility to safeguard public health and improve the nation's air quality, President Bush has partnered with industry lobbyists to begin a vast rollback of Clean Air Act protections.


The legacy of the present administration to generations to generations to come making sure our children future is of health problems giving the pharmaceutical industry a favor at the expenses of the American people future generations.

www.environment2004.org...

This some of bush records on our environment protections

quote:

Unclear Skies. The Bush administration's "Clear Skies" initiative would rewrite the Clean Air Act to benefit some of the nation's biggest polluters while weakening health protections for millions of Americans.


The bush record on our National Parks, has suffered in order to protect private interests.
The bush record on Global warming, Bush administration has make sure that such thing as global warming warnings is a fallacy and a Myth that will never affect the US occurs we are one of the biggest producers of CO2.
Bush record on environmental enforcement, The EPA has for the past 30 years been one of the best agencies to keep the environmental laws in place, since bush administration resources has been taken away from the agency, lest inspectors mean lest sources to find environmental law breakers giving more access to companies to pollute.

www.environment2004.org...

With such a record is not wonder the bush administration is not part of the Kyoto Protocol.


reply posted on 16-2-2005 @ 08:08 PM by Umbrax
As I was looking at the Cato Institute MaskedAvatar posted this on a different thread.
Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
The task of critiquing the Cato Institute has been delegated to me.

It is done very well here:

world.std.com...

As in all such things, the Cato Institute "says" and "indicates" what dominant interest groups tell it to "say" and "indicate". It is a front for lobbying the positions of dominant corporations, nothing more nothing less.


It never seemed reasonable to me that we could only reduce global warming by 0.07°C. It didn't make sense to me while I was reading last the Kyoto Protocol. The amount of man made greenhouse gas reduction they are asking for would surely have an impact. I was also thinking, can 141 countries be that stupid to legally sign up for something that wont solve a thing?
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