Boeing skips Canada industry day

In a huge surprise no one could have seen coming (and you can take that as sarcasm or not, it's completely up to you), Boeing was noticeably absent from the industry day held by the Canadian government for their new fighter purchase. As many as 200 participants from seven countries were there, representing 108 companies, plus military organizations (the US Navy was present).

Canada plans to buy up to 88 fighters, with the RFP expected in the spring of 2019, and final selection in 2021-2022 (so the current government can say thru didn't go back on their word). Boeing is currently locked in a trade dispute with Bombardier over the CSeries sale to Delta Airlines. The dispute resulted in Canada canceling the planned purchase of interim Super Hornets from Boeing, and making the announcement that companies that hurt Canadian industry will be penalized in the upcoming fighter competition. Boeing has yet to announce if they'll make an offer.

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a reply to: Zaphod58

Eventually the sales people decide that some customers are just tire kickers.

When politicians start messing with things to gain a political advantage they become tire kickers.

Best to wait for a different Government to be elected and hopefully they will be serious. Why help them kick the can down the road.

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originally posted by: pheonix358
Best to wait for a different Government to be elected and hopefully they will be serious. Why help them kick the can down the road.

Boeing is going to have to wait longer then that.

Any Canadian government that buys a Boeing product will not be the government for long enough to complete the purchase. Quebec has a disproportionate amount of power in Canadian politics, and they certainly know how to carry a grudge.

Boeing might have to wait for the current generations to die off.

No, this does not mean I agree. It just is what it is.

a reply to: peck420

The only way Boeing gets back in anything resembling good with the Canadian government is to drop the claim against Bombardier and either give an obscene discount on new aircraft, or partner with a Canadian company to build them in Canada.

a reply to: Zaphod58


If the Canadian gov't is involved in this dispute, is it merely supporting one's own economy or is there gov't subsidy involved?

I think it's safe to say Boeing is going to have a tough time selling airframes in Canada for quite some time to come. It might even have a knock on effect in the UK and Europe.

They certainly gave Airbus a leg up in the widebody market with that lttle stunt.

a reply to: nwtrucker

Subsidies aren't as cut and dry as many people think. All aerospace manufacturers get subsidies. Some come in the form of incredible tax breaks, such as no taxes for 10 years, or something along those lines. That's what Boeing has gotten many times from the state of Washington. Some are more direct, government bailouts.

In the case of Bombardier, they received a more direct bailout in the form of an interest free loan from Ottawa, and Quebec buying a 49.5% interest in the CSeries program.

Dummy Spit much....

And Boeing may be throwing its hat in the ring after all...

www.reuters.com...

Masochists.

a reply to: anzha

www.flightglobal.com...

Boeing is back, officially, in the ring according to Canada.

a reply to: anzha

And Canada will accept the bid, officially.

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