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Saudi Defense Minister - UBL sent by Jews

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posted on Feb, 14 2005 @ 11:29 AM
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For crying out loud. This is supposed to be a conference
on how to stop terrorism. But the Saudi in charge of
getting rid of terrorism, the Saudi Defense Minister,
makes stuuuuuuuuuuupid presentations like this???
The Saudi Royals created and upheld Wahabbi
Terrorism, and they still have their head in the sand.
Their reign is coming to an end, and it's their own
ignorant fault.
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www.israelnn.com...

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Saudi Defense Minister: Bin Laden Sent by the Jews
20:53 Feb 09, '05 / 30 Shevat 5765
Israel National News

During a meeting to plan the recent Saudi conference
on counter-terrorism the Defense Minister of Saudi Arabia
claimed that arch-terrorist Osama bin Laden was “sent by
the Jews.”

The Defense Minister, Prince Sultan Feted read a poem
with the following verse: "Long live security - may its men
hold their heads high on every corner. [Bin Laden], whose
ideology is sick, who was sent by the Jews, who is the
architect of theft, was treacherous and sent us the
criminals. This traitor of the nation tried to harm us,
but his efforts boomeranged back upon him."



[edit on 2/14/2005 by FlyersFan]




posted on Feb, 14 2005 @ 11:38 AM
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Typical Saudi anti-semite response. On par with the rest of their like-type opinions and assertions.

Israel media should run with: "UBL sent by Saudis."





seekerof



posted on Feb, 14 2005 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by Seekerof
Typical Saudi anti-semite response. On par with the rest of their like-type opinions and assertions.

Israel media should run with: "UBL sent by Saudis."


seekerof


screw the anti semitic ****
it would make sense since the US and its war on terror is targeting most of Isreals rivals

why is it people diss islam here 24/7 but cant say jack about the jews?



posted on Feb, 14 2005 @ 01:36 PM
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NOW here's a little modern history lesson homepage.ntlworld.com...



posted on Feb, 14 2005 @ 02:05 PM
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uhmmm people

consider the source of this info.

It is like UFOs in India Daily, or reptilians on Rense.com




posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by bodrul
why is it people diss islam here 24/7
but cant say jack about the jews?


Well bodrul ... the subject of THIS thread is the assinine
poem read by the Saudi leader who is supposed to be
in charge of Saudi defense. The idiot gets in front of a
conference of people who are supposed to be having
a serious discussion about safety, security, and terrorism
... and he reads a moronic poem about how evil Jews are
and how they are the ones that sent UBL to cause all the
problems.

Typical anti-Jewish, head-in-the-sand behavior. Blame the
Jews for everything .... including UBL
when in fact it
was Saudi appeasement of wahabbi terrorism that helped
to make UBL who he is today. (that, and the USA funding
Afghan rebels against the Russian invasion in the 1980's)
The jews obviously had nothing to do with it and it's a
freak'n joke that anyone would actually think they did,
let alone someone who is SUPPOSEDLY educated and in
charge of Saudi Defense.

Oh .. and Islam wasn't dissed on this thread ... just the
Saudi moron who is in charge of defense. He brought it
on himself by reading that stuuuuuuuuuupid poem blaming
the Jews for UBL. (passing the buck is what he did ... to
the favorite Saudi scapegoat - the Jews)



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 07:20 AM
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The Joke's On Them

The ultimate target in the War on Terrorism is Saudi Arabia.

The behavior of some members of the aristocracy suggests that they know it.

They weren't very nice about oil prices before the election, were they?

Despite the lies of certain Democrats to the contrary.

There's the public side to this war, then there's the real side.

Take your pick.



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 07:41 AM
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This is really quite insane, the US is going to have to stop supporting the saud house before long. Hopefully, if everything goes well enough in Iraq then the stage can be set for something to be done. With that, the rule of saud, only, what, a hundred years long, will be like a blip on the screen of history.



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 08:25 AM
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i wouldn't put anything past the jews. it is very smart for the jews to keep the worlds most famous terrorist a close ally. it is totally unsuspecting. the jews allow him to continue his terrorism and in return the jews continue receiving foreign aid from the usa and other countries. this is because as long as osama bin laden is free he is a viewed as a freedom fighter by other militant arabs all over the world and more importantly a legendary figure amongst the palestinians. as long as the palestinians have bin laden and other figures to draw life into their cause the israelis will have someone to fight and a reason to draw more foreign aid. simply brilliant on their part.



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by bodrul

Originally posted by Seekerof
Typical Saudi anti-semite response. On par with the rest of their like-type opinions and assertions.

Israel media should run with: "UBL sent by Saudis."


seekerof


screw the anti semitic ****
it would make sense since the US and its war on terror is targeting most of Isreals rivals

why is it people diss islam here 24/7 but cant say jack about the jews?


You taking to be the bod babe. The jews are "perfect". They are the "chosen" people. Ishmal was the "bastard" child.



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 08:32 AM
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How can the Saudi's spread such lies. Why would a totalitarian state lie?

But seriously,
we all know UBL was sent by . . . that's right, America!

This is a conspiracy site rite?



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 08:38 AM
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Originally posted by feklar
i wouldn't put anything past the jews ...
simply brilliant on their part.


You actually believe this ... *stuff* ... by the Saudi Defense
Minister? Lemme' guess. You are from Saudi Arabia, right?

Saudi Arabia is going down and it has no one to blame but
itself. The *educated* (and I use that term lightly) like this
Defense Minister spout nonsense, the people of the country
believe it, and the terrorists laugh at them and grow stronger.



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 08:41 AM
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Originally posted by Nygdan
the US is going to have to stop supporting
the saud house before long.


The Royal house of Saud won't be there much longer anyways.
They have sown the seeds of their own destruction by appeasing
the Wahabbi extremists. The Saudi birth rate is out of control and
unemployment is running amuk while the Royals, all 5,000 of
them, live in fantasy land.



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 09:19 AM
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flyers, i believe the saudi guy that said this is just theorizing. however the fact remains that israel and the usa both have clandestine projects that would make the world freak out if they were to become known. nothing is far fetched except the things the governments disclose to the public.



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by bodrul
why is it people diss islam here 24/7
but cant say jack about the jews?


Oh .. and Islam wasn't dissed on this thread ... just the
Saudi moron who is in charge of defense. He brought it
on himself by reading that stuuuuuuuuuupid poem blaming
the Jews for UBL. (passing the buck is what he did ... to
the favorite Saudi scapegoat - the Jews)


i was refering to other anti islamic topics and replies ( not this )
just that if anyone says anything aginst jews they are branded anti semetic
but people always post anti islamic topics and threads and people are OK with that.




Originally posted by DrHoracid
You taking to be the bod babe. The jews are "perfect". They are the "chosen" people. Ishmal was the "bastard" child.


lol at the jews beiong perfect

no ones perfect

[edit on 15-2-2005 by bodrul]



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 09:58 AM
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The problem is that Arab Nations in general cannot see past thier religion. They do not have the live and let live mentality that modren civilized nations aspire to. They are born and raised to hate anyone who does not believe in thier god and religious ways. Some of them there and here in the U.S have been educated and have a better understanding of the real world and not the "make believe fantasy worlds" that religious doctrine has most of humanity believing in. Sure could be a god out there but also could just have been some quantum disturbance in the nothingness..

For most christians..christianity has evolved away from open warfare to win followers. For uncivilized Arab nations their religion has yet to evolve and change into an acceptable world religion that allows others to live and let live.

I think the Saudi Royals will eventually realize that they must rewrite thier religion and exclude the hate and killing therein in order for them to continue to rule. This would be much like the old anceint Euro Kings did to the Holy Bible as it was forming. Thier is still a lot of crazy stuff in the old testiment but at least most christians find ways to ignore that stuff and do not blow up inoccent people any more. At least not on large.

Arabs have an entirely different view on life founded in thier religion. They just dont see the world as free westernized nations do, and they wont untill they start teaching there children that acceptance is the way and not murder.

I do realize that some muslims and Arab nations are civilized and have moved beyound the murder ascribed in world religions.

X



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by Xeven
I think the Saudi Royals will eventually realize that ...

That would be nice, but I don't think they'll be around
long enough to realize anything. Their days are numbered
and it was their own doing. They raised up the very terrorists
who are now threatening to bring them down. I think the
terrorists will be sucessful and I think they will bring them
down sooner, rather than later. IMHO.



posted on Feb, 15 2005 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by feklar
simply brilliant on their part.

its 'brilliant' to make sure that your enemy will ceaselessly fight you and to change the geopoltical landscape such that the very existence of your country is at risk? All for 'foreign aid" thats used to fight the very enemy you are saying that they have effectively created?

i believe the saudi guy that said this is just theorizing

Its a poem. How could it be 'theorizing'? If Rummsfeld made a speech where he waxed poetic about smelting the iron meteorize that is the kabbah into fencing for pig pens, would you consider it 'meaningless unloaded theorizing'?


bodrul
if anyone says anything aginst jews they are branded anti semetic

Being anti-jewish is anti-semitic. If you say that 'the jews' as a whole are doing something bad then you are anti-semitic. If you say the israeli government is doing bad, or if you disagree that there should be an ethnic jewish state, you would not, necesarily, be anti-semitic.


xeven
They are born and raised to hate anyone who does not believe in thier god and religious waysp

This, of course, is an untruth. Arabs and muslims in general have been, and continue to be able to, live in relative peace with non-muslims in their borders. Even jews. Jews have been in iraq longer than islam has existed, but they never tried to exterminate the jews, or the christians, or the fire-worshippers and the rest. And moreso, 'muslims' don't have a single unified culture. Arabs have a culture different from the farsi, the indonesians have another culture, the turkmen another and the various peoples in pakistan antoher, not to mention the mongols who converted to islam and spread it even further.



flyerfan
They have sown the seeds of their own destruction by appeasing
the Wahabbi extremists.

They owe the original existence apparently to the wahabbist and a fighter-tribe called the 'Ikhwan' or some such. They might've set themselves up for a fall by allowing foreign extremists into their country. However, that was to appease their public over the israel situation. I don't see the followers of wahabbi being instrumental in their downfall tho. With the Ikwahn, for example, the Saud clan used these renowned fighters to gain control of whats now saudi arabia, and, when they had outlived their usefulness, and began agitating over 'westernization', they had the clerics issue a fatwa against them and simply destroyed them. The clerics, when pressed, will do as clerics do, and work to preserve the authority that allows them to operate.
And that is the problem. Their power is in part based on the clerics. The clerics won't cooperate unless they are allowed to operate on their own ideology. There can't be any reform then, because the clerics will go against the state.
At least, when/if it does come, it will be very very quick, with the wahabbist clerics, at least the ones unsympathetic to the continued saud rule, being rounded up and extreminated, perhaps declared apostate by the cooperative clerics (not unlike the ikhwan themselves).



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