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Vegas Shooting: Where's The Video Footage?

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posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 12:26 PM
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Lots of theories going around. The official narrative can't seem to stand up to scrutiny. One theory in particular seems to be getting quickly and vigorously swept under the rug and disregarded (which tends to raise red flags for the conspiracy minded), which is the botched Fast and Furious style arms deal to members of ISIS.

The major points for downplaying this narrative are: "Why civilian firearms?", "Why were they in his own name?", "Why did he load the magazines?".... Okay... Well maybe the buyer/s requested civilian firearms? If they weren't purchased in his name wouldn't the buyer/s be suspicious as to how/where he acquired them? Maybe they requested to have them loaded as they were planning to use them immediately? All sounds reasonable to me or at the very least possible.

What if this was all set up by the FBI to conduct a terror attack on the public to further vilify gun ownership and fuel the police state? Sounds crazy? Ever heard of Operation Northwoods?

So we know they've done stuff like this before, but they couldn't possibly be doing it today....


Despite all that, it's all pretty irrelevant when you consider where the hell is all the video footage?

Oh it's "under investigation" so it "can't be disclosed to the public until everything has been analyzed"? Tell that to the 50+ murder victim's families and the 500+ others who were injured... Though even then, what is left to withhold? The one and only apparent suspect is dead, right? So whose interests are being protected by withholding the footage? There were security cameras in the hotel, supposedly Paddock even set cameras up in the room itself.... But we're not allowed to see it yet... How much do you want to bet we're never going to see that footage, just like footage of the "airplane" which hit the Pentagon?...

Soon after the shooting there has been a call for body scanners to be set up in casinos and hotels in Las Vegas which were once used in airports though were removed due to health concerns from the radiation. Millions of dollars in equipment. So we have some evidence that someone is profiting from this event.

All in all I guess my point is, it's too soon for people to be telling us what not to believe, as those tasked with the investigation can't even seem to get their story straight.

Here's an interesting video which I'm sure many of you will be quick to scrutinize. Though what if the information provided is true and we ignore it? Has it not happened before? Can we really afford to disregard any possibilities at this point?

For those looking for a brief yet in depth analysis of the situation and it's implications, this is a great video to check out.




posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 12:38 PM
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a reply to: HorizonFall

This angle to me seemed very plausible at first. But then I started thinking about other events in history, and realized that NOTHING happens without "their" permission and execution. I think the hotels wanting body scanners seems more plausible to me, meaning this event imo was much bigger than just some fbi/isis people selling arms. Something carried out way at the top and more involved/elaborate.

But of course, it could be the fbi angle all along. I guess "accident's" are possible, though not plausible. Seems it took way to long to get to that room for some reason. Either way, something sure smells whatever the truth is.

ETA: The apparent occult dates and symbols etc to me would also suggest something much bigger.

edit on 10-10-2017 by iTruthSeeker because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 12:42 PM
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My money is on something along the lines of this:

Feds say they thwarted NYC plot targeting concert venues




...undercover FBI agent posing as an Islamic extremist...



LV could have been a similar operation gone bad, imo.

Isn't ut interesting that news of the NYC situation broke the same week?


edit on 10-10-2017 by loam because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 12:44 PM
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There's definitely one thing that nobody has been able to come up with yet, and that's a motive...



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 12:47 PM
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Crazyness would be a condition where arguing about a motive get´s silly.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 12:51 PM
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I can't see hauling dozens of guns up 32 floors in a Vegas hotel where the security is ridiculously tight.
Why there and not some warehouse or even a car wash somewhere?
Not to say that Paddock might not have been dealing arms, his ambiguous history and endless cash stream would fit with someone dealing something, perhaps it wasn't guns but human smuggling - catering to a pedophile clientele.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 12:57 PM
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UMM, back to the topic. Where is the footage from vegas. all the hotles have endless cameras and the streets too. Lets see some footage



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 01:10 PM
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Screw it. I'm going to throw my theory out there:

Paddock was duped into making an arms deal in a hotel to ISIS members. He was murdered, the ISIS members conducted the attack and Paddock took the blame. The fact that ISIS took credit for it is a major indicator to me.

Though again, this is just my theory.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 01:16 PM
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Here is a very odd thing...its been a week now since I have been back and I have yet to see all the video from people just like me that were trapped on the streets or in the Theater at Mandalay Bay or those who were bused to the Thomas Mack center everyone I ran into had their phones up recording until the batteries ran out! Still have yet to see any of that...



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: paytaplay
UMM, back to the topic. Where is the footage from vegas. all the hotles have endless cameras and the streets too. Lets see some footage


The casino FLOORS have cameras. The actual hotel? Not so much. There are NO CAMERAS on the major Las Vegas Hotels/casinos, Hotel floors.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 01:19 PM
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originally posted by: Asktheanimals
I can't see hauling dozens of guns up 32 floors in a Vegas hotel where the security is ridiculously tight.
Why there and not some warehouse or even a car wash somewhere?
Not to say that Paddock might not have been dealing arms, his ambiguous history and endless cash stream would fit with someone dealing something, perhaps it wasn't guns but human smuggling - catering to a pedophile clientele.


Easy. Get a few of those haulable suitcases with wheels and a TSA lock. Then load them up with whatever. Some are large enough to fit a desktop PC inside.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 01:19 PM
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originally posted by: HorizonFall
Soon after the shooting there has been a call for body scanners to be set up in casinos and hotels in Las Vegas which were once used in airports though were removed due to health concerns from the radiation. Millions of dollars in equipment. So we have some evidence that someone is profiting from this event.

What's interesting is that someone predicted exactly that about 3 weeks before the shooting:

edit on 10/10/2017 by trollz because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 01:21 PM
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a reply to: trollz

source please.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 01:21 PM
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originally posted by: HorizonFall
Screw it. I'm going to throw my theory out there:

Paddock was duped into making an arms deal in a hotel to ISIS members. He was murdered, the ISIS members conducted the attack and Paddock took the blame. The fact that ISIS took credit for it is a major indicator to me.

Though again, this is just my theory.


This is "your" theory? This is one of the MAIN Theories on the Internet. "Your" theory became a very well known theory a couple days after it happened.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 01:29 PM
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They say in Vegas , Someone is ALWAYS watching . well, what the hell happened to that ?
Has to be video of him coming in , he didn't carry that much equipment up there in one bag , so there has to be footage of him checking in or loading a luggage cart or two to get up there.
Or even footage of him or someone bringing all that stuff in through the back .
Either way in a place where EVERYONE. Is being watched so closely why do we not see any of this ?



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 01:30 PM
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originally posted by: verschickter
a reply to: trollz

source please.

It was apparently posted on /pol/ about a month ago.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 01:31 PM
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a reply to: TheOnlyBilko

Sorry... "The theory which seems most plausible to me". That better?

I hadn't seen anyone word it that way, or refer to Paddock as being duped, i.e. being unaware as to what would take place and what he would be blamed for.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 01:45 PM
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a reply to: trollz

thank you for the hint. Not so apparent for me, since I did not recognize this forum just via style.

But I found it. I can post the link but now I´m unsure about your motives not posting it. T&C?



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 02:04 PM
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originally posted by: verschickter
a reply to: trollz

thank you for the hint. Not so apparent for me, since I did not recognize this forum just via style.

But I found it. I can post the link but now I´m unsure about your motives not posting it. T&C?


I left the link out because I wasn't sure if we're allowed to post it or not. I see people mentioning /pol/ quite often, but never the link to the website.



posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 02:18 PM
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So was the Torrent ever leaked? I clicked on the link the youtuber who posted the video had in the description. squawker.org.

4chan /POL/
"Data will be provided in 100GB chunks,” writes the correspondent, “torrent magnets will provided. When data is dropped please seed and spread so it cannot be removed. Save this encryption key…”" this was posted on the 6th of October, anyone know if this has comeout or not?

The poster says "A response to the LVPD official has come forth on 4chan, claiming to possess 1.76 terabytes of data, “including collected Mandalay security cam footage, footage from the hotel room, fingerprint comparisons, non-disclosure agreements and payroll information for hired actors, birth certificates of real identities.”"

How real can this be?




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