a reply to: xuenchen
Keep telling yourself that, bucko. 1776 and 1860, not even a 100 years and you have full blown tyranny. Here's a trivia question... name 1 US
constition agreement that Lincoln did not strip.
For 1.) US Constition allowed the states, in this case, the South to pull from the government- that's not being a traitor, it's a right.
2.) Abraham arrested 1000s of news reporters in war times to keep dumbing down his union misfits
3.) Abraham sent war ships to SC after they rightfully seceeded in union, doing so without congress.
4.) Abraham sent soldiers to states under martial law.
5.) Union troops illegal seized land own by southerners.
6.) Union troops vandalized and burnt down homes after plundering their food source.
Literally EVERYTHING he said in his inauguration was a lie. He said 1.) would not abolish slavery 2.) believed in states rights 3.) would not send
troops into South, which is now a sovereign country. That was his 3 big promises.
His speech: “I have NO PURPOSE, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution OF SLAVERY in the United States WHERE IT EXISTS. I believe
I have NO LAWFUL RIGHT TO DO SO, and I have NO INCLINATION TO DO SO. Those who nominated and elected me did so WITH FULL KNOWLEDGE that I had made
this and many SIMILAR DECLARATIONS and had NEVER RECANTED THEM..” 1.) no abolition of slavery as it was protected under US Constition. South didn't
invent slavery, no ships waving a Battle Flag went to foreign soil, they was purchased by Union at $25,000 a pop.
“That the rights of the States, and ESPECIALLY THE RIGHT OF EACH STATE to ORDER AND CONTROL IT'S OWN DOMESTIC INSTITUTIONS (like.. slavery?)
according to its OWN JUDGMENT EXCLUSIVELY, is ESSENTIAL TO THAT BALANCE OF POWER on which the PERFECTION and ENDURANCE of our POLITICAL FABRIC
2.) Observing States rights. The E.P or free slaves Bill wasn't acknowledged here. Imagine if we passed a bill to end slavery in Africa.. oh we cant,
that's a different country. Sounds dumb? South had a President and a Vice President making it a country. Regardless, state rights, STATE RIGHTS!
“and we DENOUNCE the LAWLESS INVASION by ARMED FORCES of the soil of ANY STATE or TERRITORY, NO MATTER WHAT PRETEXT, as among THE GRAVEST
CRIMES.” - Inaugural Address, March 4, 1861. 3.) lol Sure. That's why when SC militia at Fort Sumter asked them to leave and fed them for 30 days he
sent fleet of ships into harbor before South opened fire. You can still read letters today of how Lincoln told guy in command of Fort to hold it off
until backup arrives.
“ The real causes of the dissatisfaction in the South with the North, are in the unjust taxation and expenditure of the taxes by the government of
the United States, and in the revolution the North has effected in this government from a confederate republic, to a national sectional despotism.”
- Charleston Mercury, Nov.3 1860.
“The North was mad and blind; it would not let us govern ourselves. and so the war came and now it must go on till the last man of this generation
falls in his tracks, and his children seize the musket and fight our battle. Unless you acknowledge our right to self government. We are not fighting
for slavery. We are fighting for Independence, and that, or extermination.” President Jefferson Davis, C.S.A (tombstone)
“The Tariff question, again enters largely, more largely than is commonly supposed; into the irritated and aggregate feelings of the Southerners.
And it cannot be denied that in this matter they have both a serious injury and an unconstitutional injustice to resent… All Northern products are
now protected; and the Morrill Tariff is a very masterpiece of folly and injustice.” James Spencer, British Cotton Trader & Trade Adviser, Scottish
“The Northern onslaught upon slavery was no more than a piece of specious humbug designed to conceal its desire for economic control of the Southern
states.” Charles Dickens
“Everyone still professes to the disapproval of slavery. Of course, so in the can't of the day runs, slavery is a very dreadful thing, and everybody
the South above all, would be glad to see it abolished; but slavery has nothing to do with the present war.” - British Correspondent “The Outlook
of the War”
“As a rule, the great mass of the public expenditures were made from the North, not in the South, so that Southerners found themselves doubly taxed;
taxed first for the benefit of the Northern manufacturers, and then in disbursement of the public funds, denied an equal participation in the benefits
accruing therefrom.” The Weekly Athenaeum, May 1865
“Since therefore, the abolition of slavery never appeared in the platform of any great political party, since the only appeal ever made to the
electorate on that issue was scornfully repulsed, since the spokesman of the Republicans empathetically declared that his party never intended to
interfere with slavery in any shape or form, it seems reasonable to assume that the institution of slavery was not fundamental issue during the epoch
preceding the bombardment of Fort Sumter.” - Charles Beard
Nathan B. Forrest after hearing Robert E. Lee's surrendered he follows pursuit. He gives in my opinion the best speech ever to his own men that show
great detail what war was about.
Civil war, such as you have just passed through naturally engenders feelings of animosity, hatred, and revenge. It is our duty to divest ourselves of
all such feelings; and as far as it is in our power to do so, to cultivate friendly feelings towards those with whom we have so long contended, and
heretofore so widely, but honestly, differed. Neighborhood feuds, personal animosities, and private differences should be blotted out; and, when you
return home, a manly, straightforward course of conduct will secure the respect of your enemies. Whatever your responsibilities may be to Government,
to society, or to individuals meet them like men.
The attempt made to establish a separate and independent Confederation has failed;
but the consciousness of having done your duty faithfully, and to the end, will, in some measure, repay for the hardships you have undergone. In
bidding you farewell, rest assured that you carry with you my best wishes for your future welfare and happiness. Without, in any way, referring to the
merits of the Cause in which we have been engaged, your courage and determination, as exhibited on many hard-fought fields, has elicited the respect
and admiration of friend and foe. And I now cheerfully and gratefully acknowledge my indebtedness to the officers and men of my command whose zeal,
fidelity and unflinching bravery have been the great source of my past success in arms.
I have never, on the field of battle, sent you where I was unwilling to go myself; nor would I now advise you to a course which I felt myself
unwilling to pursue. You have been good soldiers, you can be good citizens. Obey the laws, preserve your honor, and the Government to which you have
surrendered can afford to be, and will be, magnanimous.
— N.B. Forrest, Lieut.-General
Headquarters, Forrest's Cavalry Corps
May 9, 1865.
We are not traitors, we exercised our rights to seceed. We did not agree to a 40-48% income tax. And after the war we sucked it up and accepted defeat
like men against a radical government and a tyrant. We didn't do anything our founders fathers would have done.