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French protest against raising 35 work week

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posted on Feb, 5 2005 @ 10:11 PM
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Another reason to hate the French.

This 35 hour work week, which was started by France's Socialist Party, was supposed to reduce unemployment. How I don't know. But with Unemployment at over 10%, and a sluggish economy, there has been a call to raise the work week hours. 83% of the Frenchies disapprove. It is even against the law to work over 48 hours in a week over there.

Just goes to show you what Socialism does to a country.




posted on Feb, 5 2005 @ 10:16 PM
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Why should this call for more hate against the French? I don't get it, here in the US people work more than 40 hours a week on second jobs to get end meet, and still they don't get overtime for second jobs.



posted on Feb, 5 2005 @ 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by Carseller4
Just goes to show you what Socialism does to a country.


Yeah, it promotes family responsibility over misplaced corporate duty.


I wasn't of the impression the 35 hour work week was a particular oddity anywhere but the US anyway. Most Europeans enjoy less hours and more vacation/family.

Americans work the most and spend time with family the least from what I've read.

Maybe we should envy the French a bit more, rather than hate them.



posted on Feb, 5 2005 @ 10:24 PM
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"Hate the French"?

And after that they whine about other countries hating Americans.



posted on Feb, 5 2005 @ 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
Why should this call for more hate against the French? I don't get it, here in the US people work more than 40 hours a week on second jobs to get end meet, and still they don't get overtime for second jobs.


If you are in France and you want to work more than 35 hours you should be able to. Why would you protest someone else working more. If you didn't want to take your chances of getting replaced, but don't hold someone else back.

People still work 2 jobs in the USA? Haven't heard of anyone doing that since college? But if they do more power to them, I love captialism!



posted on Feb, 5 2005 @ 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by Otts
"Hate the French"?

And after that they whine about other countries hating Americans.


Democrats are the ones that whine about other countries hating Americans. Whining is what democrats do nowadays.

Republicans like myself could care less what the rest of the world thinks. We call it jealousy.



posted on Feb, 5 2005 @ 10:36 PM
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Hmmm, should I be jealous of people who regally cast judgement on other nations (invariably finding them lesser) while brushing aside any criticism of their own nation as "jealousy"?

Let me think about this for a second.

Um... no.

As for the 35 hour week... we have that up here in Canada. My last job was 37.5, my current one is 35 (but I always end up doing 40 anyway). I'd have to look up what my country's unemployment rate is, but I'm pretty sure it's under 10 percent.



posted on Feb, 5 2005 @ 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by RANT

Americans work the most and spend time with family the least from what I've read.



I dont think we are even close, The Japanese have us beat in the hours worked in a week.

Japanese workers work longer hours compared with pretty much all the western countries.

They even have a word ''Karoshi'' which means death from overwork. The phenomenon was first identified in Japan.



posted on Feb, 5 2005 @ 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by Carseller4


If you are in France and you want to work more than 35 hours you should be able to. Why would you protest someone else working more. If you didn't want to take your chances of getting replaced, but don't hold someone else back.

People still work 2 jobs in the USA? Haven't heard of anyone doing that since college? But if they do more power to them, I love captialism!


Boy where the hell have you been? Your comment only proves my point, Republicans are the biggest bunch of clueless, detatched, and unrealistic escapists Ive ever seen.

Yes people still work 2 jobs in the USA, many people do, to make ends meet and survive. Try getting out sometime, actually off your armchair, out the remote down, step outside your house, and take a good look.




posted on Feb, 5 2005 @ 10:45 PM
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Hate France mantra is bad.
Hate is bad.
Refraining from such is good.

Simply just be anti-French.
Or like some here, simply be anti-American.

As for the French protesting working more hours. Hmm, maybe if they worked more productive hours, then perhaps the French economy might not be as it is now? Let's not even go into what French unemployment numbers are, nor Germany's.

Sorry, but I'm just not seeing a problem with working more than 35 hours. Again, considering the unemployment rate, they really ought to be happy that they even have jobs to work.

Outsourcing anyone?





seekerof



posted on Feb, 5 2005 @ 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by Carseller4
Republicans like myself could care less what the rest of the world thinks. We call it jealousy.



Yes, living in a bubble...cuts off air to the brain dontcha know.


The rest of the world just calls it dillusion. Right up there with America is the best place in the world to live (highest standard of living, most freedoms, etc.)

Whatever floats your boat, buddy.

The rest of us just shake our heads and say yeah, whatever.




posted on Feb, 5 2005 @ 10:49 PM
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Its really all relative. When we are on 12 hour shifts, I work 3 a week or 36 hours. If we are on 24 hour shifts, I work on papaer 48, but 24 is actually in the hospital sitting around, another 24 is "on call" some nights I do nothing, others Im out all night. Hours worked is always relative to the job that you have.



posted on Feb, 5 2005 @ 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by ShadowXIX
I dont think we are even close, The Japanese have us beat in the hours worked in a week.

Japanese workers work longer hours compared with pretty much all the western countries.

They even have a word ''Karoshi'' which means death from overwork. The phenomenon was first identified in Japan.


You're right, but that's due to culture more than anythign else. And technically, I don't think they neglect their families, since Japanese corporate culture also frequently involves family in activities- for instance, I believe the Japanese were the first to offer arcology living, and the only people to offer shu-shin koyo approaches to employment.

It's a completely different culture, I very much doubt that a comparison is worthwhile.

DE



posted on Feb, 6 2005 @ 12:22 AM
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Hate the french because they actually have a life outside of slaving for the corporate dollar?

Very wierd statement, a twisted personality... . may many more countires populations be like them and actually have a chance to live, enjoy life, and their families instead of being materialisticly focused and driven to have the newest car or the best TV.

BTW New Zealand has only 3.5% unemployment and falling, entire industries are now held back because there are not enough workers to staff them. One city evenadvertised in England to find some more workers, and the best employment positions at present are for the scarce trades, carpenters, electricians etc, who are charging up to US$75per hour...

Its so bad there are politicans talking about getting the mothers at home into work through childcare subsidies for their kids to keep business growing. - this is not a joke....



[edit on 6-2-2005 by Netchicken]



posted on Feb, 6 2005 @ 12:25 AM
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I said I'd check for Canada's unemployment rate... it was at 7 percent in January.

www.businessreport.co.za...



posted on Feb, 6 2005 @ 12:27 AM
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I don't hate the French for this, it's an internal issue and if they want to screw up their own economy with overregulation, let them.

I get upset with the French for putting up their UN Security Council veto vote up for sale and stabbing their allies in the back.



posted on Feb, 6 2005 @ 12:31 AM
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But don't forget, they didn't vote for the war in iraq because they said there was not enough evidence of WMD.
And you know what? THEY WERE RIGHT.

So who was the REAL traitor, a country that told the truth and stood by its values, or a government who refused to tell the truth and lied to its own people?



Originally posted by djohnsto77
I don't hate the French for this, it's an internal issue and if they want to screw up their own economy with overregulation, let them.

I get upset with the French for putting up their UN Security Council veto vote up for sale and stabbing their allies in the back.


[edit on 6-2-2005 by Netchicken]



posted on Feb, 6 2005 @ 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by djohnsto77
I get upset with the French for putting up their UN Security Council veto vote up for sale and stabbing their allies in the back.


This, by which I assume you mean not following along with America and acting independently. Care to elaborate, or will I have to assume it's more the supersistious AMerican fear of the word 'socialism'?

Or maybe it's the whole hate mongering thing, who knows.

DE



posted on Feb, 6 2005 @ 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by DeusEx

You're right, but that's due to culture more than anythign else. And technically, I don't think they neglect their families
DE


Hours worked in a week is something I can get facts and numbers on, Neglecting a famliy cant say I have seen studies of that in either Japan or the US. I doubt the numbers from any such study would be be that reliable either.

The cultures are different but perhaps not as different as you may think Japan imbraces American culture quite a bit and the US does so right back.



posted on Feb, 6 2005 @ 12:36 AM
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France didn't block the vote in the Security Council because of WMDs, they had a secret deal with Saddam to have lucrative contracts on oil fields once UN trade restrictions were lifted if they could prevent a U.S. invasion.




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