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originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: subfab
Sure everyone is to blame in the sense that we all play along with this system of ultimate oppression. However, their crime is only being ignorant of what the system is actually doing to us. Which is no surprise because we are all lied to from birth about what the system is from other ignorant people like ourselves. You can't expect people to make the correct choices when you actively deceive them the entire time about what is really happening.
But the ones who know what is happening and still use it to their benefit at the cost of so many. They are the real enemy. Think about the millions of lives they've destroyed and the suffering caused by these people who live without any restraint and suck the very life from everyone else simply for their own greed.
Everyone knows deep down that something isn't right but they can't understand what it is or why things aren't different. Well, now you're getting a glimpse at the answer. Now, what can we do about it???
originally posted by: subfab
a reply to: liveandlearn
we can put some blame on the banking industry, but the people also need to own their part of the problem.
i see many people who live beyond their means. charging new cars every three or four years, new flat screen televisions, new sports equipment, vacations, the latest edition of cell phone, and lots more.
people can take charge of their finances. it isn't easy. but it can be done.
take care of necessities first,
save for frivolous items so you don't have to charge them.
originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: 23432
Yeah, that's a pretty big step though. That's a major hurdle just on it's own actually that also requires many smaller and significant steps to accomplish.
But I agree, that would certainly help. In fact that would take care of most of it. If you accomplish that successfully and still remain a powerful nation the rest shouldn't be that difficult. However, I imagine accomplishing it would cause a significant backlash from those trying to stop it too.
I've never bought that bible verse. "Money" is just a proxy for resources and labor, control of which provides wealth and power. I think GREED is the root of most evil.
originally posted by: UpIsNowDown
a reply to: liveandlearn
Skipped some parts so far, but it never amazes me that the old adage of "Money is the root of all evil" certainly bares true in the 21st Century.
Try to live within your means and dont borrow from the banks, it might be a slow process but better than the banks just making debt from nothing
One to watch for sure, I will be back later
Big thanks OP
yes as far as ancient history life is better for your average person.
originally posted by: Revolution9
originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: liveandlearn
I must say, I'm severely disappointed in the way the world works today. Knowing what Bernard has told us has made me realize that all the political shenanigans going on around Trump, Comey, Sessions and the lot pale in importance to near insignificance.
Yet is it not better than the way the Roman Empire did things, King Henry V111, Victorian Work House culture or any gone period in history when it was much more cruel? In real terms I am sure hell of a glad I live now and not under the thumb of those cruel barbarians of the past. I think people have their knickers in a twist about all this. It's never enough is it and the moaning never stops does it. There is a warped vision and unrealistic expectation eating away at jealous and envious pitchfork peons.
Real economics is raising the level of prosperity. There is no way I am poorer than 20 years ago. It is getting better in the West because we have stability and don't go out destroying everything in civil wars like SOME FOLK do.
originally posted by: 23432
originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: subfab
Sure everyone is to blame in the sense that we all play along with this system of ultimate oppression. However, their crime is only being ignorant of what the system is actually doing to us. Which is no surprise because we are all lied to from birth about what the system is from other ignorant people like ourselves. You can't expect people to make the correct choices when you actively deceive them the entire time about what is really happening.
But the ones who know what is happening and still use it to their benefit at the cost of so many. They are the real enemy. Think about the millions of lives they've destroyed and the suffering caused by these people who live without any restraint and suck the very life from everyone else simply for their own greed.
Everyone knows deep down that something isn't right but they can't understand what it is or why things aren't different. Well, now you're getting a glimpse at the answer. Now, what can we do about it???
Begin with reclaiming of your own Soverignty.
originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: liveandlearn
3 Corporations rule the world!
Washington DC
London, England
The Vatican
The bankers just shuffle the money around away from the serfs into the pockets of those who rule over us.
originally posted by: RisenMessiah
a reply to: liveandlearn
Liars and Thieves will get their reward. Assholes always do, sooner or later.
originally posted by: liveandlearn
originally posted by: subfab
a reply to: liveandlearn
we can put some blame on the banking industry, but the people also need to own their part of the problem.
i see many people who live beyond their means. charging new cars every three or four years, new flat screen televisions, new sports equipment, vacations, the latest edition of cell phone, and lots more.
people can take charge of their finances. it isn't easy. but it can be done.
take care of necessities first,
save for frivolous items so you don't have to charge them.
Hoping there are some younger people reading this and rethink what is important in their life
Who started credit cards? Banks. Entice people with ads...everyone needs/wants this or that. Change clothing styles and colors every year etc. Call everything in US "the American Dream" What is that even?
I grew up poor and married a man who never bought into credit cards. Tho no longer married, if I don't have the money for something I don't buy it. And rarely give in to wants. I do have a house payment but I worked it out... even with taxes and insurance, it cost over 4000 more to live in a 1 bedroom apt. AT 71 starting over yet again is not an option.