‘Paris Deal’ Nations Are ‘Saving’ Planet… by Building New Coal Plants

Wild dose of hypocrisy as we have a story that seems to show that many "Paris Accord" nations are planning as many 2400 brand new coal fired generating plants !!

Well this beats all doesn't it.

Another head scratcher.

‘Paris Deal’ Nations Are ‘Saving’ Planet… by Building New Coal Plants


‘What a joke’! THIS is how some Paris Agreement nations are ‘saving’ the planet?

On the subject of that whole “saving the planet” thing that progressives were furious with Trump for impeding yesterday, here’s a quick snapshot of something being done by countries who are among those being lauded for joining the Paris Agreement:

That’s according to a document from Climate Action Tracker, which is “an independent science-based assessment, which tracks the emission commitments and actions of countries.”

a reply to: xuenchen

It has never been about saving the planet.

It is about controlling the planet.

To top this off, China and India were exempt!

Al Gores inconvenient truth?
He needs his own coal plant just for his home alone!

I heard Elon Musk promised to stop using his
Private Jet, haha NOT.

China and India were doubling down ... on an agreement that asks *nothing* of them whatsoever until 2030.

a reply to: xuenchen

These plants were planned years before the Paris agreement. These newer highly efficient plants are also replacing older far less efficient plants. Which effectively lowers emissions and gives these countries 50 more years to switch entirely to renewables. Which some, especially China, are on pace to do in half that time.

originally posted by: conscientiousobserver
a reply to: xuenchen

These plants were planned years before the Paris agreement. These newer highly efficient plants are also replacing older far less efficient plants. Which effectively lowers emissions and gives these countries 50 more years to switch entirely to renewables. Which some, especially China, are on pace to do in half that time.

Hmmm

a reply to: ketsuko

They have to hit their targets by 2030. China was already on pace to do this before the agreement.

Do you know how the agreement works? Bigger countries put in money that is then given to smaller countries first that couldn't afford to regulate emissions otherwise. China has already put up $ 3 billion.

a reply to: xuenchen

www.americanprogress.org...

Fun fact:

Arby's employs more people than the coal industry in the United States.

Last numbers gathered in 2014 put the entire coal industry employing around 76,000 people.

Arbys? You know, the people who "have the meat"?

Arby's employs about 80,000 people.

That's still pretty small compared to Walmart, America's largest employer at 2.2 million jobs.

Source

And PS...

"Planning" isn't the same as "building". You can have coal plants in the planning phase, but until you actually build them, they're just ideas on paper.

The article says "planned" not "under construction" or "being constructed".

originally posted by: conscientiousobserver
a reply to: xuenchen

www.americanprogress.org...

Love it.

Coal is Progress !!

originally posted by: conscientiousobserver
a reply to: xuenchen

These plants were planned years before the Paris agreement. These newer highly efficient plants are also replacing older far less efficient plants. Which effectively lowers emissions and gives these countries 50 more years to switch entirely to renewables. Which some, especially China, are on pace to do in half that time.

So you are saying this is technology that is ready right now? Without intervention?
Why haven't anyone started producing this ASAP?

a reply to: randomtangentsrme

Infrastructure overhauls are some of the most expensive things a country can undertake.

originally posted by: Kettu
a reply to: randomtangentsrme

Infrastructure overhauls are some of the most expensive things a country can undertake.

Good thing we are being taxed for infrastructure.

a reply to: randomtangentsrme

China has been for years these things don't just happen over night.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: conscientiousobserver
a reply to: xuenchen

www.americanprogress.org...

Love it.

Coal is Progress !!

Yay backwards means forwards, what an exiting time we live in

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

They are replacing older less efficient coal plants. With newer more efficient ones. Yay technological progress.

The Paris Agreement requires nations to hit their emissions targets, and gives them freedom on how to do that.

Does that mean some nations are building coal plants? Yes. But you have to look at what else they are doing. What they are closing. What renewables they are investing in.

China has mothballed hundreds of coal plants in favour of opening green energy plants.


Honestly, this endless parade of false oil and coal industry propaganda on ATS is tiresome. This site is supposed to deny ignorance, yet we have this constant stream of oil/coal press releases masquerading as 'news'.

well it makes sense considering how europe basically swore to stop using nuclear power after what happened in japan, not only that but a dutch company just put a carbon capture and storage system on the market recently.

the carbon tax is just a measure to force companies to use such technology even though i just see them doing the cheaper thing of automation or just laying workers off.

en.m.wikipedia.org...

China is the world's largest market for both photovoltaics and solar thermal energy. Since 2013 China has been the world's leading installer of solar photovoltaics

China is utilizing everything they can for power.

ewn.co.za...

Today, China invests more each year in wind, hydro and solar power than any other country on earth.

originally posted by: conscientiousobserver
Which effectively lowers emissions and gives these countries 50 more years to switch entirely to renewables.

But I thought we only had a couple decades at most before we kill the planet ?