Jehovah’s Witnesses Mobilize Global Response to Threat of Ban in Russia

a reply to: RobertConrad

True.

You agree then, your belief is circular.
There is hope that reason may prevail if you see the lack of logic.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: RobertConrad

There was no global flood.

Why do you think the Himalaya exist? Or the Trench in the Atlantic?

Do you so proudly wear that badge of ignorance?

Unfortunately the JWs AND geology say there have been multiple Global floods.If you simply look at a google earth image you can see the signature patterns consisting of a continental leading edge and a following debris tail.......as the continents shifted and moved last cycle the entire surface was scraped clean by the ocean waters and washed back away from the leading edge.......this mess washed back over the tailend of the continent evidencing direction of travel speed and many other things.This is just one of a plethora of unavoidable unassailable geological realities which prove global floods do in fact happen.

There is a lot more evidence....but methinks this is not the time or place to expound.

I find the discussion humorous......on and around every continent you can see buried cities and infrastructure buried by these global waves using google earth,there are clearly seperate layers or actions and epochs and civilisations involved.

I encourage everyone to use online resources to find these areas many many of which are acessible ....and GO TO THEM....do your own investigation and seek out your own physical evidence.


The Jws are simply another religous group with foreknowledge of the coming displacement wave and its cyclical nature who have come together to try to keep groups together to foster survival......there are many groups ...Mormons....Jws...Catholics...Muslims...they all know what is coming at the leadership levels.

The histories of the JWs and Mormons is straight off of ATS .....they had extra-terrestrial connections involved in their beginnings.

When you see the bigger picture you find these groups to be palatable.....this is after all about first surviving the politics of a Wave Cycles down years and then being in a big enough group near the cycles end to survive post-event.

Putin might not want uncontrolled groups of survivalists causing him grief post-event.Any large cohesive group can be considered a survival group post-event.

There is lots to respond to in this thread, but I will just respond to the OP Topic.

JW's are the cannery in the coal mine when it comes to human rights, they were in internment camps in countries all over the world during the second world war for their strict neutrality, most notably in Germany. When they get banned much worse can follow for other groups as well. Rejoicing in them being banned ignores historical precedent.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

MARTIN NIEMÖLLER

a reply to: RobertConrad

The JWs may be a blasphemous cult, but they have the right to worship, even if they are perverted away from the truth in doing so.

I am sure I agree entirely with the forced collapse of ANY religious organisation, because organisation is the biggest sickness affecting ANY faith. But I cannot agree with a persons entire belief system being banned, even if I absolutely disagree with their methodology.

a reply to: RobertConrad

Next up, justification for Scientology, by Scientologists! Stay tuned, more fun to follow!

Cheers - Dave

Presidente de Russia
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin
23 Ilyinka Str.
Moscu
Federacion
103132 25/3/2007


Dear Mr. President,

You have been allowed a great responibility by Jehovah God to govern the nation of Russia. It is a great nation with tradition and past.

Now it has fallen upon your shoulders to bear the responibility of how you will treat God's people on earth, during this time in the end.

Do not forget the example of the Pharaoh who defied Jehovah only to be broken into pieces at the Red Sea, when he and his army were sallowed up and died in their pursuit of Jehovah's witnesses.

They are not a threat. No Jehovah's Witness has ever killed anyone. They have true love among themsleves. Something this world is sorely lacking. And they also have Jehovah's spirit and backing, as this letter writing campain is showing you.

I urge you, Mr. President, with my deep respect, to do what is right by Jehovah's Witnesses. Allow them, please, to worship the true God in freedom. You and I both know they are not extremists or terrorists. And that the accusations against them are false.

It is your duty and obligation as the President, and as a human being with morals to stop the persecution of a whole people in your nation based on slander and lies.

I pray you do what is right. It is in your purview. Honor Jesus the son of God, and give glory to Jehovah.

a reply to: RobertConrad

please do not lie - its undignified :

No Jehovah's Witness has ever killed anyone

rebuttal :

Ralph Candelario is a JW. He murdered his JW wife (his second wife) around January 2014 in Walsenburg, Colorado

rebuttal

further - i suspect putin will be familiar with the case of :

Vladimir Gurianov, and Elvira Egorycheva

source

so - no JWs kill anyone .........................................except the ones who do

a reply to: RobertConrad

oh joy - its that your own " letter " or plaigerised ???

PS - you never bothered to address the "impact " of the JW letter writing campaign to hittle

what makes you seriously think puting will give a rats ass about this one ?

esp as it is dishonest [ see above reply ]

(Psalm 2:1-12) Why are the nations agitated And the peoples muttering an empty thing?  2 The kings of the earth take their stand And high officials gather together as one Against Jehovah and against his anointed one.  3 They say: “Let us tear off their shackles And throw off their ropes!”  4 The One enthroned in the heavens will laugh; Jehovah will scoff at them.  5 At that time he will speak to them in his anger And terrify them in his burning anger,  6 Saying: “I myself have installed my king On Zion, my holy mountain.”  7 Let me proclaim the decree of Jehovah; He said to me: “You are my son; Today I have become your father.  8 Ask of me, and I will give nations as your inheritance And the ends of the earth as your possession.  9 You will break them with an iron scepter, And you will smash them like a piece of pottery.” 10 So now, you kings, show insight; Accept correction, you judges of the earth. 11 Serve Jehovah with fear, And rejoice with trembling. 12 Honor the son, or God will become indignant And you will perish from the way, For His anger flares up quickly. Happy are all those taking refuge in Him.

a reply to: RobertConrad

Charles Russel believed the "time of the end" in Daniel 12 ran from 1799 to 1914, that Christ had returned to earth in 1874, began his reign in 1878 and that from that date the anointed had been resurrected to heaven at their death. He initially taught that Armageddon had begun in 1874, which would culminate in worldwide anarchy and the overthrow of all political rulership in 1914 .

Rutherford's term as president was marked by a succession of changes to doctrines, with many of Russell's teachings altered or abandoned and many new teachings introduced. The Finished Mystery declared that God would destroy churches "wholesale" and church members by the millions in 1918,[127] and that all earthly governments would be destroyed in 1920, resulting in anarchy.

WHY WOULD YOU FOLLOW THE BELIEFS OF A CRAZY CULTISTS?

DID YOU NOT NOTICE THE WORLD DID NOT END?

a reply to: RobertConrad

" You have been allowed a great responibility by Jehovah God to govern the nation of Russia."


Great way to start off the letter ........NOT.

I think your inability to understand humans that are in power, as opposed to the " desperate for purpose in life " people most religions pray on, will be your undoing in this venture. .

originally posted by: RobertConrad

On March 15, 2017, Russia’s Ministry of Justice filed a claim with the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation to label the Administrative Center of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia as extremist and liquidate it

They are extremists. Their doctrine does not line up with scripture. They say only 144,000 will be saved. That's not what the scripture says. It says that the 144,000 are the virgin men who have not defiled themselves who will be the only ones who can learn a new song.

a reply to: thedeadtruth

Do not forget the example of the Pharaoh who defied Jehovah only to be broken into pieces at the Red Sea, when he and his army were sallowed up and died in their pursuit of Jehovah's witnesses.

And then go on to threaten him hahaa, yea that's the way you roll when you send a letter to the President of Russia..... Not.

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: RobertConrad

Charles Russel believed the "time of the end" in Daniel 12 ran from 1799 to 1914, that Christ had returned to earth in 1874,

How is it that I was not raised in church and I don't even need to grab a Bible to refute this?

It says that when Christ returns all eyes will see Him. As Armadgeddon rages on. Christ will appear as the sun rises in the east, He will decimate the forces gathered for battle at Armageddon and His feet will come rest upon the Mount of Olives and the Mount of Olives will cleave in two and become a valley.

That pretty much excludes Christ from having appeared in 1874.

The climate of today lends itself directly to groups like the JWs and Mormons and LDS and other groups........these groups have original founders who claim extra-terrestrial influential inputs,once you add Nibiru and the Cyclical Global Displacement Waves which come with it to these Doctrines and their particular interpretations of biblical doctrine....well things begin to make sense.

IMHO different groups of Humanity who have cooperated globally during the 3657 year lagtime between events have developed space technology and have left Earth knowing it is a ticking timebomb which goes off every 3657 years and they didnt intend on coming back.......but some have and still do.....this is the answer to the time paradox people experience when they say Aliens are time-travellers from our future......lol.....really they are simply differently evolved groups of.... US....of Earth Humanity.......different groups who have each evolved on their own signature timeline and template....but ALL ORIGINATING HERE ON EARTH.Some return to help us during a Nibiru Cycle to come together and leave earth enmasse permanently... and some return to screw with us and obtain all of our resources we should be using to get humanity off-planet for their own profit while they let the masses drown during the event.

I am not a religious person....but if I were I would see a plausable explanation bringing all religions and extra-terrestrials together under one single doctrinal umbrella .....and this would include a plausable explanation as to how a God could have only created man on Earth,and it would explain all the different humanoid lifeforms we hear testimony about.....simply humans who evolved on their own timelines.

They are....us....and if you believe in God then they[differently evolved groups of us we call aliens] categoriclly fall into that paradigm perfectly....they fall under the auspices of original creation.

IMHO each time Humanity escapes Earth before a Nibiru wipeout of life on the planet....a new humanitarian timeline and evolution begins.....and a new "alien" species is created.

I am not saying I have proof of this or anything...I am just banging ideas around....I cant see any other more compelling scenario at the moment....sounds like a good movieline anyways....lol.

a reply to: Phage

Ahahahahaha, that is so true!

I have to be honest here. I would not mind. Between the constant rings at my door to preach the gospel, to the blantant attempt to take over my free little library in from of my house and turn it into some sort of indoctrination center, they have to be the most invasive religious group i have ever encountered

Meh, it's their country. As much as I detest and distrust the Russian government, they're free to do as they please in this case.

As far as the general public's opinion goes, well, if this was Russia instead banning Islam, y'all would be applauding and cheering away, so forgive me if I'm a little amused by the prospect of banning a Christian sect.

a reply to: RobertConrad

Jehovah’s Witnesses Mobilize Global Response

Sorry, but that tickles me. What are they actually going to do? Deliver the pamphlets and/or email forward the content of ten thousand skirt wearing Grandma's?

I actually hear Prince's doves crying.

*disconnects doorbell*