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OCA...Original Classification Authority and who has it????

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posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 02:33 PM
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Is it possible to find out who in the government has OCA and to what levels they are attributed to have OCA for? I am curious as to those that have it as they relate to the Clinton email stuff.

Obama changed the order in 2009 and it states:



Sec. 1.3. Classification Authority.

(a) The authority to classify information originally may be exercised only by:

(1) the President and the Vice President;

(2) agency heads and officials designated by the President; and

(3) United States Government officials delegated this authority pursuant to paragraph

(c) of this section.
(b) Officials authorized to classify information at a specified level are also authorized to classify information at a lower level.
(c) Delegation of original classification authority.

(1) Delegations of original classification authority shall be limited to the minimum required to administer this order. Agency heads are responsible for ensuring that designated subordinate officials have a demonstrable and continuing need to exercise this authority.

(2) "Top Secret" original classification authority may be delegated only by the President, the Vice President, or an agency head or official designated pursuant to paragraph (a)(2) of this section.

(3) "Secret" or "Confidential" original classification authority may be delegated only by the President, the Vice President, an agency head or official designated pursuant to paragraph (a)(2) of this section, or the senior agency official designated under section 5.4(d) of this order, provided that official has been delegated "Top Secret" original classification authority by the agency head.

(4) Each delegation of original classification authority shall be in writing and the authority shall not be redelegated except as provided in this order. Each delegation shall identify the official by name or position.

(5) Delegations of original classification authority shall be reported or made available by name or position to the Director of the Information Security Oversight Office.

(d) All original classification authorities must receive training in proper classification (including the avoidance of over-classification) and declassification as provided in this order and its implementing directives at least once a calendar year. Such training must include instruction on the proper safeguarding of classified information and on the sanctions in section 5.5 of this order that may be brought against an individual who fails to classify information properly or protect classified information from unauthorized disclosure. Original classification authorities who do not receive such mandatory training at least once within a calendar year shall have their classification authority suspended by the agency head or the senior agency official designated under section 5.4(d) of this order until such training has taken place. A waiver may be granted by the agency head, the deputy agency head, or the senior agency official if an individual is unable to receive such training due to unavoidable circumstances. Whenever a waiver is granted, the individual shall receive such training as soon as practicable.

(e) Exceptional cases. When an employee, government contractor, licensee, certificate holder, or grantee of an agency who does not have original classification authority originates information believed by that person to require classification, the information shall be protected in a manner consistent with this order and its implementing directives. The information shall be transmitted promptly as provided under this order or its implementing directives to the agency that has appropriate subject matter interest and classification authority with respect to this information. That agency shall decide within 30 days whether to classify this information.


and it references section 5.4d which is:

cont in next post .....




posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 02:35 PM
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5.4(d) is as follows:


Sec. 5.4. General Responsibilities. Heads of agencies that originate or handle classified information shall:

(d) designate a senior agency official to direct and administer the program, whose responsibilities shall include:

(1) overseeing the agency's program established under this order, provided an agency head may designate a separate official to oversee special access programs authorized under this order. This official shall provide a full accounting of the agency's special access programs at least annually;

(2) promulgating implementing regulations, which shall be published in the Federal Register to the extent that they affect members of the public;

(3) establishing and maintaining security education and training programs;

(4) establishing and maintaining an ongoing self inspection program, which shall include the regular reviews of representative samples of the agency's original and derivative classification actions, and shall authorize appropriate agency officials to correct misclassification actions not covered by sections 1.7(c) and 1.7(d) of this order; and reporting annually to the Director of the Information Security Oversight Office on the agency's self-inspection program;

(5) establishing procedures consistent with directives issued pursuant to this order to prevent unnecessary access to classified information, including procedures that:

(A) require that a need for access to classified information be established before initiating administrative clearance procedures; and

(B) ensure that the number of persons granted access to classified information meets the mission needs of the agency while also satisfying operational and security requirements and needs;

(6) developing special contingency plans for the safeguarding of classified information used in or near hostile or potentially hostile areas;

(7) ensuring that the performance contract or other system used to rate civilian or military personnel performance includes the designation and management of classified information as a critical element or item to be evaluated in the rating of:

(A) original classification authorities;

(B) security managers or security specialists; and

(C) all other personnel whose duties significantly involve the creation or handling of classified information, including personnel who regularly apply derivative classification markings;

(8) accounting for the costs associated with the implementation of this order, which shall be reported to the Director of the Information Security Oversight Office for publication;

(9) assigning in a prompt manner agency personnel to respond to any request, appeal, challenge, complaint, or suggestion arising out of this order that pertains to classified information that originated in a component of the agency that no longer exists and for which there is no clear successor in function; and

(10) establishing a secure capability to receive information, allegations, or complaints regarding over-classification or incorrect classification within the agency and to provide guidance to personnel on proper classification as needed.


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edit on 12/22/16 by Vasa Croe because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 02:37 PM
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Now my reason for the question is I think it is very pertinent to the HRC email case. I know she had classification authority herself, but obviously she would not have used it in her own case as that would be way too obvious. I am wondering if someone like McCabe (who's wife received that massive donation from them via the McAuliffe's who were under investigation by the Washington Field Office prior to becoming a Clinton Foundation Board Member) had OCA or someone else that was involved had OCA. While McCabe seemingly backed off from the case until he was appointed Deputy Director at which point he was in charge of it, he could have used OCA to change designations on documents sent without it raising red flags to investigators at that time.

Just some thoughts.
edit on 12/22/16 by Vasa Croe because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 03:03 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Now my reason for the question is I think it is very pertinent to the HRC email case. I know she had classification authority herself, but obviously she would not have used it in her own case as that would be way too obvious. I am wondering if someone like McCabe (who's wife received that massive donation from them via the McAuliffe's who were under investigation by the Washington Field Office prior to becoming a Clinton Foundation Board Member) had OCA or someone else that was involved had OCA. While McCabe seemingly backed off from the case until he was appointed Deputy Director at which point he was in charge of it, he could have used OCA to change designations on documents sent without it raising red flags to investigators at that time.

Just some thoughts.
personally I have a job that requires a lot of things that get classified. I have no affiliation with any factions but I do operate under full transparency and will not have my tools kept hidden from me.



posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 03:10 PM
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I would think this would be available via FOIA under the 1.3(5) section it says:



(5) Delegations of original classification authority shall be reported or made available by name or position to the Director of the Information Security Oversight Office.


So as of 2009, both Bosanko and Fitzpatrick should have every delegate for OCA on record. Would this be FOIA accessible?



posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 03:14 PM
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originally posted by: spectranometron

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Now my reason for the question is I think it is very pertinent to the HRC email case. I know she had classification authority herself, but obviously she would not have used it in her own case as that would be way too obvious. I am wondering if someone like McCabe (who's wife received that massive donation from them via the McAuliffe's who were under investigation by the Washington Field Office prior to becoming a Clinton Foundation Board Member) had OCA or someone else that was involved had OCA. While McCabe seemingly backed off from the case until he was appointed Deputy Director at which point he was in charge of it, he could have used OCA to change designations on documents sent without it raising red flags to investigators at that time.

Just some thoughts.
personally I have a job that requires a lot of things that get classified. I have no affiliation with any factions but I do operate under full transparency and will not have my tools kept hidden from me.


I had to have secret clearance for some work I did for government a while back, but I am specifically trying to find out who has held/holds OCA. It appears the names/positions were mandated to be recorded by Obama's Presidential order changing the previous order in 2009...the previous order was done by GWB.

The GWB order can be found at the link below....Obama's edits are in purple.

OCA Obama Edits



posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 03:25 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: spectranometron

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Now my reason for the question is I think it is very pertinent to the HRC email case. I know she had classification authority herself, but obviously she would not have used it in her own case as that would be way too obvious. I am wondering if someone like McCabe (who's wife received that massive donation from them via the McAuliffe's who were under investigation by the Washington Field Office prior to becoming a Clinton Foundation Board Member) had OCA or someone else that was involved had OCA. While McCabe seemingly backed off from the case until he was appointed Deputy Director at which point he was in charge of it, he could have used OCA to change designations on documents sent without it raising red flags to investigators at that time.

Just some thoughts.
personally I have a job that requires a lot of things that get classified. I have no affiliation with any factions but I do operate under full transparency and will not have my tools kept hidden from me.


I had to have secret clearance for some work I did for government a while back, but I am specifically trying to find out who has held/holds OCA. It appears the names/positions were mandated to be recorded by Obama's Presidential order changing the previous order in 2009...the previous order was done by GWB.

The GWB order can be found at the link below....Obama's edits are in purple.

OCA Obama Edits
I'm not so much concerned with "government procedures". My only issue lies with constrictions concerning my procedures necessary for universal development. It sounds like to me the original himself should be well within his rights to move about the planet as seen fit. I can assure you I will not interfere with your processes. Excuse me for my lack of professionalism.



posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 03:42 PM
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originally posted by: spectranometron

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: spectranometron

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Now my reason for the question is I think it is very pertinent to the HRC email case. I know she had classification authority herself, but obviously she would not have used it in her own case as that would be way too obvious. I am wondering if someone like McCabe (who's wife received that massive donation from them via the McAuliffe's who were under investigation by the Washington Field Office prior to becoming a Clinton Foundation Board Member) had OCA or someone else that was involved had OCA. While McCabe seemingly backed off from the case until he was appointed Deputy Director at which point he was in charge of it, he could have used OCA to change designations on documents sent without it raising red flags to investigators at that time.

Just some thoughts.
personally I have a job that requires a lot of things that get classified. I have no affiliation with any factions but I do operate under full transparency and will not have my tools kept hidden from me.


I had to have secret clearance for some work I did for government a while back, but I am specifically trying to find out who has held/holds OCA. It appears the names/positions were mandated to be recorded by Obama's Presidential order changing the previous order in 2009...the previous order was done by GWB.

The GWB order can be found at the link below....Obama's edits are in purple.

OCA Obama Edits
I'm not so much concerned with "government procedures". My only issue lies with constrictions concerning my procedures necessary for universal development. It sounds like to me the original himself should be well within his rights to move about the planet as seen fit. I can assure you I will not interfere with your processes. Excuse me for my lack of professionalism.


What in the hell are you even talking about?



posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 03:51 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: spectranometron

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: spectranometron

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Now my reason for the question is I think it is very pertinent to the HRC email case. I know she had classification authority herself, but obviously she would not have used it in her own case as that would be way too obvious. I am wondering if someone like McCabe (who's wife received that massive donation from them via the McAuliffe's who were under investigation by the Washington Field Office prior to becoming a Clinton Foundation Board Member) had OCA or someone else that was involved had OCA. While McCabe seemingly backed off from the case until he was appointed Deputy Director at which point he was in charge of it, he could have used OCA to change designations on documents sent without it raising red flags to investigators at that time.

Just some thoughts.
personally I have a job that requires a lot of things that get classified. I have no affiliation with any factions but I do operate under full transparency and will not have my tools kept hidden from me.


I had to have secret clearance for some work I did for government a while back, but I am specifically trying to find out who has held/holds OCA. It appears the names/positions were mandated to be recorded by Obama's Presidential order changing the previous order in 2009...the previous order was done by GWB.

The GWB order can be found at the link below....Obama's edits are in purple.

OCA Obama Edits
I'm not so much concerned with "government procedures". My only issue lies with constrictions concerning my procedures necessary for universal development. It sounds like to me the original himself should be well within his rights to move about the planet as seen fit. I can assure you I will not interfere with your processes. Excuse me for my lack of professionalism.


What in the hell are you even talking about?
spectranometron@gmail



posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 04:44 PM
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originally posted by: spectranometron

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: spectranometron

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Now my reason for the question is I think it is very pertinent to the HRC email case. I know she had classification authority herself, but obviously she would not have used it in her own case as that would be way too obvious. I am wondering if someone like McCabe (who's wife received that massive donation from them via the McAuliffe's who were under investigation by the Washington Field Office prior to becoming a Clinton Foundation Board Member) had OCA or someone else that was involved had OCA. While McCabe seemingly backed off from the case until he was appointed Deputy Director at which point he was in charge of it, he could have used OCA to change designations on documents sent without it raising red flags to investigators at that time.

Just some thoughts.
personally I have a job that requires a lot of things that get classified. I have no affiliation with any factions but I do operate under full transparency and will not have my tools kept hidden from me.


I had to have secret clearance for some work I did for government a while back, but I am specifically trying to find out who has held/holds OCA. It appears the names/positions were mandated to be recorded by Obama's Presidential order changing the previous order in 2009...the previous order was done by GWB.

The GWB order can be found at the link below....Obama's edits are in purple.

OCA Obama Edits
I'm not so much concerned with "government procedures". My only issue lies with constrictions concerning my procedures necessary for universal development. It sounds like to me the original himself should be well within his rights to move about the planet as seen fit. I can assure you I will not interfere with your processes. Excuse me for my lack of professionalism.


Lost me here....wrong thread perhaps?



posted on Dec, 22 2016 @ 09:27 PM
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So I've been reading the last link I posted about Obama's edits to the OCA stuff....I will make a much longer post later on what I believe to be a really big issue with the designations and who is allowed to assign OCA.

Just going solely by his Presidential order, Hillary should face sanctions....he specifically states negligence being sanctionable as a part of classified information being accessed by anyone other than authorized. He also very clearly states that anyone possessing OCA must go through a mandatory update training yearly and if it did not occur then OCA would be suspended.

During her tenure she had deputies Negroponte, Stienberg, and Burns whom she also could grant OCA and whom could also grant her a waiver from having to take the training.

There are so many odd things with this order it is baffling. There appears to be no checks or balances for any heads of departments like Hillary. As head of the Department of State, she was able to have OCA and grant herself SAP's with no oversight except for the Director of Information Oversight Office.

The trouble with that is that she could create a SAP that the Director of Information Oversight would not be able to oversee in a particular case....one that may even pertain to Benghazi....

Here is where the issue lies in part. From Section 4.3:


Establishment of special access programs.
Unless otherwise authorized by the President, only the Secretaries of State, Defense, and Energy,
and Homeland Security, the Attorney General, and the Director of CentralNational Intelligence,
or the principal deputy of each, may create a special access program. For special access
programs pertaining to intelligence activities (including special sources, methods, and activities,
(but not including military operational, strategic, and tactical programs), or intelligence sources
or methods, this function shall be exercised by the Director of CentralNational Intelligence.


So HRC was able to completely oversee any SAP with no oversight from another division as long as the SAP was designated military operational, strategic or tactical. She would have complete control.

Anywho....my next post about this order will be a lot longer as there are a LOT of issues I have found with what is President mandate versus what actually occurred.

I HIGHLY suggest anyone interested in what HRC has done to be sanctioned should read this order and really think on it. It is truly and eye opener.



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