a reply to: Raggedyman
Actually you need to brush up on your definition of Idol, there was a war in the orthodox church well known as the Iconoclasm, two religious school's
fought in a bloody civil war with each accusing the other of heresy, the Anti Iconists' wrongly called the Iconist's Idolator's.
It become's an Idol when you think IT is god, not a sign pointing to god and not a form of Hieroglyph we call an Icon.
Icon's therefore are revered but not worshipped.
In that war the Iconist's won and the Orthodox and Catholic church's made definiton of what an Icon is and what a FALSE idol is, a false idol such as
a war god totem worshiped as an actual god is actually man abasing himself and therefore disrespecing the image of God which he was created in while
with an Icon a person may pray, wear it like a crucifix or a religous medalion and try to make a solid bond with God though it is only as strong as
there faith and the icon remain's just an icon except for the faith of those that have held it and possessed it.
They do not worship these icon's as idol's and though they may see sign's in the Icon's they do not believe the sign come's FROM the icon but rather
from God whom is NOT the icon.
An Idol however is regarded as A god by those that Abase themselves and worship it.
Lastly it is not Mary or her Icon that has cursed mexico but rather Drug Cartel's, exploitative greedy men and rotten politician's and corrupt
institution's, the once fabulously wealthy nation was stripped by it's European conqueror's and even Maximilian's gold (Which he had stolen from that
nation while calling himself emperor) probably hidden in what is today inside the united state's and stolen form it's cave within the bound's of what
today is US military land and off limit's to civilian's by the US military in secret.
Now if you want to make a point about corrupt Church, priests and etc then I am likely to in most part agree on those count's but the faith itself is
not evil, it has not blessed them with corporeal wealth but remove the crime and I am sure you would find most south american countrys' have a heck of
a lot to offer.
If you want to look at recent history though think on this, south america became a proxy battle zone during the cold war between the US (whose
intelligence agency's including the CIA had been circumvented and corrupted by the influence of former high ranking NAZI agent's and intelligence
operatives taken into the US after the second world war under the auspices of Operation Paperclip, those same Nazi's also had link's to south america
and under there influence many junta's took control of many of the nation's to which a lot of Nazi's had fled following the war.
But in the case of Mexico it was always divided between the Godless rich and the religious and simple poor folk's, injustice bread suffering and
suffering bred rebellion.
Into this mix both criminal cartel's and also political ideology's which the Nazi influenced US intelligence and heirarchy could not allow to prosper
took hold, in order to combat the socialists as in many country's of south America the US or rather entity's within it then funneled money to the
cartels and corrupt politician's seeking a divide and keep divided policy to prevent the rise of any socialist entity within the poverty stricken
nation, a tactic they used time and again such as in Nicaragua under the guise that they were combating communist's but in essence regardless of what
they thought or believe they were doing what they were really doing was funneling wealth into corrupt and criminal hand's and impoverishing further
already poor and suffering people's.
Mary and the Holy Icon do not factor into the equation.
Lastly just a side note I am not accusing America of this just certain corrupt interests that use america and have and do use other nations as and
when it serves there interests, oh and they also harmed the poor of the US and impoverished it's working class as they raced to consolidate ever more
power into there own grubby little greedy hand's so they hit much closer to home there with long term implication's which have taken there time but
have finally began to come to fruition showing the harm they have done moving the wealth from the people to the corporations then to a small select
few shareholders and banking institution's, that is were they get international and the US is just a cloak of convenience to them as these people are
not patriots to any nation only there world spanning cabal, there action's have monopolized the US economy into there own hand's and removed any real
enterprise from it's national economy, private business often struggle were before this they would have thrived even in the closed market of the then
secularist and mainly isolationist united state's, in other word's globalists are a scam, they are not capitalists in there ultimate goal but rather
worse than the most excessive intent's of either the NAZI's or the Stalinist's and are intent upon destroying the US once they have used it making it
the scapegoat for THERE action's as they move to another nation of convenience or then turn around and buy up even more of the US - but in the process
prevent the ownership of that nation from ever returning to it's own people and so undermining forever it's democratic institutions' and economic
soveregnty, guess what they have already done this to the bulk of south america and are doing it now to the EU.
edit on 13-12-2016 by LABTECH767 because: (no reason given)