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originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: jellyrev
I worry about this trend towards acceptance of Marxists being a trait of the cool crowd. They have not a clue what they are talking about IMO. When they wake up, it could well be to late to reverse the mistaken thinking.
It's sad how many ignore history and the fact our cultures around the world are nowhere near to being compatible yet. Cultural evolution can't be forced upon we humans, it has to evolve slowly.
The UN does serve a purpose and it's good it is evolving, but to give the UN any real power at this point would be a fools move.
Assange is also far from being a hero in my estimation. Releasing ill gotten information to the world can do a lot of unintended harm. I doubt he truly gives a damn though. He's an attention whore IMO.
Is Assange actually being detained at all? Has he not holed up in the embassy and not under arrest? I realize the Bobbies are outside the door, but technically speaking, he is not in "custody" at all.
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: ColdWisdom
Not really following you. There have been no dumps after his internets was cut off. That is what you would expect if he was using a dead mans switch.
originally posted by: ColdWisdom
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: ColdWisdom
Not really following you. There have been no dumps after his internets was cut off. That is what you would expect if he was using a dead mans switch.
Dude, yes there has been dumps, consistently. He kept leaking documents all the way up to the election and just the other day he leaked over half a million cables dating all the way back to 1979.
There has been tons of ATS coverage on this. Where have you been?
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: schuyler
Is Assange actually being detained at all? Has he not holed up in the embassy and not under arrest? I realize the Bobbies are outside the door, but technically speaking, he is not in "custody" at all.
Yes he is being detained. If he leaves the embasy he will be arrested and send to Sweeden. Sweeden have said they will make so promise that he wont be extradited to the USA
Who is detaining him? Is he in custody? Sweden wants him why, again? Because one of his girlfriends has accused him of sexual inproprieties. The claim is he had sex with her when she was asleep. And the UN thinks it can intercede in this? not likely, nor should it.
originally posted by: purplemer
He is infact a politcal prisoner in the UK seeking asylum in another country. No he is not free.
originally posted by: Naturallywired
Trump will pardon him
originally posted by: DISRAELI
b) It is absurd nonsense to say that these governments are "detaining" him. He is in that embassy of his own free will, and he will not be prevented from leaving it if he makes that decision. There is a threat of detention involved, if he leaves, but what he does of his own volition to avoid that detention is none of their doing.
originally posted by: EvillerBob
It actually comes up quite often in mental health cases where patients are coerced into staying rather than the hospital using their legal power to detain ("Yes, you're a voluntary patient so you're legally free to walk out the door, but if you try to leave we'll detain you anyway under the Mental Health Act").
originally posted by: DISRAELI
originally posted by: EvillerBob
It actually comes up quite often in mental health cases where patients are coerced into staying rather than the hospital using their legal power to detain ("Yes, you're a voluntary patient so you're legally free to walk out the door, but if you try to leave we'll detain you anyway under the Mental Health Act").
The cases do not match, because nobody is threatening to detain him within the building. They will allow him to leave the building at any time and arrest him outside.
So his presence in the building is voluntary, the choice he has made to avoid being arrested.