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Oops! Jill Stein Cannot File Direct Request for Recount in Pennsylvania, Must Take It to Court

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posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 01:25 PM
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regarding Stein's call for volunteers in Pennsylvania to ask for a recount:


Stein can’t simply ask for a recount in Pennsylvania. She needs Keystone State residents to ask for one for her.

That’s because for a recount to happen — barring a credible accusation of voter fraud ruled by the courts — three voters in each district must petition the results through an affidavit. Philadelphia alone, with its 1,600 voting divisions, would need requests from nearly 5,000 people to undergo a recount. The whole state would likely need about 30,000 volunteers. Stein got about 49,000 votes in PA.

Through Facebook and Twitter, she’s been asking for volunteers and has set up a process showing interested parties how to file an affidavit. As of 11 a.m. Sunday, she tweeted 1,500 Pennsylvanians had volunteered.

The deadline has already passed in some Pennsylvania districts, Stein said in a message to prospective volunteers. So it’s unlikely all of Pennsylvania is going to be recounted, regardless of Stein’s attempt.


and:

The PA GOP claims conspiracy

But not over possible voter fraud. Instead, the party is claiming Stein and Clinton are in cahoots. In a statement released Sunday afternoon, the Pennsylvania Republicans noted Stein lost to Trump by nearly 48 percentage points and “as such it is clear that she does not have a good faith basis to challenge the results She is clearly serving as a stalking horse for the Clinton campaign that once again will not take responsibility for its actions.”

The PA GOP also pointed out pre-election remarks from Secretary of the Commonwealth Pedro Cortés, who said “to imply that fraud is rampant – at any level – from the precinct-level to an entire city or state – is without merit and lacks any credence or proof within the modern history of elections in this country or commonwealth.”


billypenn.com...



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posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 01:38 PM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

Again...I don't think PA matters.

You still seem to think the aim is to flip the election to Clinton, while apparently repeatedly ignoring the exact reasons Stein has given and collected funds for..to ensure the integrity of the vote. If there was fraud WI will show it in a recount. From there everybody can either move on if nothing shows up or decide what they want to do about it if the vote looks to have been hacked.



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 01:51 PM
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a reply to: Indigo5

Stein collected millions from *someone* promising a recount in PA.
She is not doing it.
She took money fraudulently.

She blames machines.
Yet Michigan is all paper ballots.

She says this is about voter fraud, yet she ignores New Hampshire, where the results were much closer; and Virginia, where the governor (Clinton's former campaign manager) at the last minute auto-penned approval for over 60,000 felons to vote; and California, where illegals admit that they vote.




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posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 02:30 PM
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I just watched a news report with her in it. She claimed that it is the result from all the hacking that has been taking place recently. I don't know about you, but I could understand why that would be a good thing. You know, for democracy.

I was on board. Yeah why not. Then, closer to the end of her broadcast she said that we need to end voter ID. That kind of got my attention.

Okay. So. She wants to do a recount to make sure our democracy is not being influenced by hackers, yet she wants to get rid of voter ID. Doesn't she realize that voter ID is one way to curb Life hacking? Surely she must realize the voter fraud that takes place in real life.

Something is definitely a foot, Watson.

She also says this on her website.





Stein noted, “Assuring the validity of our vote is a critical first step towards democratizing our elections. Other essential steps include ending discriminatory voter ID laws and voter purges (like “Interstate Crosscheck”); opening the debates to all candidates on the ballot in enough states to win the election; establishing Ranked Choice Voting, a system that enables voters to rank their choices, knowing that if their first choice loses, their vote is automatically reassigned to their second choice; and getting big money out of politics - and letting the people back in."



www.jill2016.com...


Am I the only one that finds that odd? Or am I just seeing something that isn't there? Anyway.



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 02:30 PM
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Election officials not seeing Jill Stein's recount volunteers in Pennsylvania




Deborah Olivieri, director of Berks County Election Services, has told anyone asking about filing affidavits to speak to their prothonotary office. Olivieri said they've received a couple visitors and four or five phone calls.
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"There's been some phone calls today," Olivieri said. "There have been a few people who have stopped in here and we've directed them up stairs."

Monica Dutko, director of the Adams County Elections and Voter Registration Office, said she had not received any signed affidavits by 1 p.m.




posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 02:41 PM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

Also from philly.com

"According to Wanda Murren, spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of State, the deadline for a voter-initiated recount was Monday, Nov. 21. That would make a lawsuit the only remaining option for initiating a statewide recount."

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posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: 3daysgone

Wow. How can anyone take her "noble" claims seriously when she says that stuff.
Voter ID is one of the best ways to stop voter fraud, and she is against it?
And she is also against “Interstate Crosscheck”? So, she thinks people voting in more than one state is fine too?

And she wants to get big money out of politics, and yet within a week or so her party raised over $6 million.
That is more than the Green Party earned for the whole election.
I doubt that much money came from the "little people" so quickly - thus she was getting "big money".

This woman is a fraud.
She has exposed herself.



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 03:09 PM
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Jill Stein files lawsuit to recount Pennsylvania votes


Jill Stein’s attempt for a Pennsylvania recount is on.

Her lawyer, Lawrence Otter of Bucks County, filed a lawsuit in Harrisburg’s Commonwealth Court at 3 p.m. asking for a full recount of every Pennsylvania county. The lawsuit was filed on behalf of at least 100 state voters who believe “that there is a legitimate and good faith basis to contest the Presidential Election in the Commonwealth.”

The filing doesn’t mean a recount will happen in Pennsylvania, but rather that a court will consider it. That’s different from Wisconsin, where Stein filed for a recount and one will take place. Her campaign says it also plans to file for a recount in Michigan. President-elect Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton in all three states.

Stein’s lawyer listed several reasons for the need to contest the election: the findings of data scientist Alex Halderman, the DNC hacks, alleged hacks in Illinois and Arizona and discontinuity between pre-election polls and the results. The voters who are part of the lawsuit stated they also want a recount to determine whether any hacking of Pennsylvania’s electronic voting machines took place.


None of those reasons sound like they have anything to do with Pennsylvania.
If a judge does not throw this out, then he has also been bought.


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posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 03:22 PM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

Well it is all about greed.

Big Carbon. On Oct. 26, 2015, Stein’s campaign sent out a statement calling for Exxon to get the death penalty for its “climate-change fraud.” (it should be noted that Stein has called for the abolition of the death penalty for human beings). She has also repeatedly called for public pension funds to divest from companies in the fossil-fuel industry.
Yet Stein has invested $995,011 to $2.2 million in funds such as the Vanguard 500 fund that maintain significant stakes in Exxon and other energy companies like Chevron, Duke Energy, Conoco Phillips, and Toho Gas, a Japanese company that engages in the sale of natural gas, tar, and coke, a fuel made from coal.

She says she doesn't make management decisions on her investments. But she kind of does by giving them the money to invest. She is just a mouthpiece out to make a buck. She, like Hillary, has her personal views and then her public views.



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 03:34 PM
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originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: Indigo5


She blames machines.
Yet Michigan is all paper ballots


You apparently aren't reading the links and excerpts I have provided.

Yes ...Michigan tallies it votes via hackable electronic voting machines.



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 03:37 PM
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The best thing she can do now, is wash her face, and give all the money to charities across the country...



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: Indigo5




This is actually what the right wing has been shouting about for a decade...strange to see them shouting about how voting machines are impenetrable now.


They don't claim that. They claim there is a chance that ballots were not in secure locations, who's watching over ballots when the election has been conceded?
Watching the vote tally is not a big deal. Without verifying who's ballot was who's, ballot stuffing becomes the issue.



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 04:47 PM
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Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, a former Trump GOP primary opponent who later helped deliver the state for him, tweeted Monday, "We made it easy to vote, hard to cheat in WI elections. Supporters of #Recount2016 were against our Voter ID initiatives."


That's what many of us have been saying.
Stein is against Voter ID laws.
And then she does this.
Sheesh.

source



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 05:37 PM
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a reply to: TrueAmerican

Something interesting in Wisconsin. My question is why is she pushing so hard for a hand count. Do they really want this to go before congress/senate for a final vote? www.jsonline.com...







posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 05:46 PM
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a reply to: Tarzan the apeman.

Maybe because it's easier to slip in those magically found boxes of ballots in the basement if they are counting by hand?



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 05:48 PM
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originally posted by: jellyrev
a reply to: Indigo5




This is actually what the right wing has been shouting about for a decade...strange to see them shouting about how voting machines are impenetrable now.


They don't claim that. They claim there is a chance that ballots were not in secure locations, who's watching over ballots when the election has been conceded?
Watching the vote tally is not a big deal. Without verifying who's ballot was who's, ballot stuffing becomes the issue.



They validate each ballot comparing the signature, name and address to the voter rolls during a recount and all ballots are kept secure until final declaration in Dec.



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 05:48 PM
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Nice retirement fund.

How the # do I get in on this racket.



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 05:52 PM
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originally posted by: Tarzan the apeman.
a reply to: TrueAmerican

Something interesting in Wisconsin. My question is why is she pushing so hard for a hand count.
www.jsonline.com...






The machines that tabulate the votes can be infected with malware that gives the result you want. A CS professor in Michigan hacked a voting machine in under a minute to give him the outcome he wanted.



posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 06:03 PM
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a reply to: Indigo5

In the link I provided none of Wisconsins machines are connected to the internet. Most of them are optical.






posted on Nov, 28 2016 @ 06:13 PM
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By PA Law a recount has to be done by 3 signatures of voters in each county within a certain time frame



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