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posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 07:58 PM
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In the year 2016 of our Lord we find ourselves bombarded with info that says this and that and many things in-between .How to sort it out is something of a puzzle . We hear and know about "IQ" and can in most cases respect it but it would seem that with higher IQ comes more responsibility for the holder to brake it down into simpler terms so the average Joe can understand . In many cases it becomes a tool for the high and lofty to belittle and squash and notion of what could actually be true .

We hear of the scientific method connected to research and studies that claim a kind of empirical fact of the matter but in many cases this is just not so .One of the tools we can use to discern most issues is what I will call a MO .
Modus operandi en.wikipedia.org...

"Cultural Anthropologist Stuart Kirsch spent decades working with native peoples living along the ok Tedi River, in Papua New Guinea, trying to oppose the social and environmental threats posed by an enormous open-pit copper mine situated near the river's source. He tells Paul Kennedy about what they learned in the process of taking on a multi-national mining giant; and what the people of PNG taught him. **This episode originally aired March 24, 2016." www.cbc.ca...

The above link is well worth the listen to . It fits into what I consider to be a rant . We undeveloped IQ's need all the help we can get because in many cases its the status quo and the many scientific studies the opponent's uses against us .

If it could or would be just one branch of science then we lesser IQ's might be able to manage it but greed and fraud noes no bounds when the end justifies the means :>)

We underlings noticed in the TED talk by Rupert Sheldrake that something was just not right . www.youtube.com... Were these scientist, gate keepers like so many others wanting to keep the status quo ? Any curious mind cant help but run across the Electric Universe and see some simple ideas in what it puts forth but we see also a enormous amount of nay sayers that rely on consensus of science to refute it . www.youtube.com...

Never mind that science has nothing to do with consensus .Its always the majority of the thought police that are found wanting . We understand that science papers produced and accepted in the past get over turned with new and better looks at the data . Weather big pharma medical or mining or even this thing we call climate science we all need to take a breath and consider what is being said and by whom . Remember that the status quo has a lot to loose and a lot to gain while other views and opinions can only over turn their apple cart .

My first comment on global warming still stands imo . "It really doesnt matter if water is 1 , 2 or 3 degrees warmer as much as how polluted it is . Lets face it that even a good drink of warm water is much much better then something so toxic to be able to either kill of make you sick .

The (tptb) figured out back in the 60's 70's that they needed to get off the pollution talk and they brought into the debate CO2 and claimed it a pollutant ,as if it was not part of the essential parts of life . They have turned the conversation upside down and sideways in order to avoid the real issue and to make a buck of us lesser IQ's that pay the bills because that is who we are .

Well that is enough from me for now .I am sure there are many that would both agree and disagree but so what . What the heck can we do about it when its a system they made for us and one that they control . Every one be safe and take care .




posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 09:03 PM
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originally posted by: the2ofusr1
It really doesnt matter if water is 1 , 2 or 3 degrees warmer as much as how polluted it is . Lets face it that even a good drink of warm water is much much better then something so toxic to be able to either kill of make you sick .



The fact that you think the extent of damage caused by the rise in global water temperature is that it's warmer when you drink it... sort of illustrates exactly why we can't dumb down science into simpler methods.

Holy hell.



posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 10:35 PM
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Scientific evidence has to be interpreted and interpretation can be steered by desire, profit, or consensus of the time.

Scientific interpretation is ofen misinterpretted to meet a purpose. There is lots of misinterpretation done. Half of what is said to be real is not real as applied. Twisting evidence to meet your needs is what science does so well.



posted on Oct, 6 2016 @ 11:40 PM
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do you know this fact...the was an explosion in the jellyfish population off of japan...they ran many many tests, no results...finally the scientist raised the water temp I think 2 degress....jelly fish population exploded just from the wster being a little bit warmer.

now, if a simple thing as a couple of degrees up in the water temp can cause that..what else can it do???



posted on Oct, 7 2016 @ 02:44 AM
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My first comment on global warming still stands imo . "It really doesnt matter if water is 1 , 2 or 3 degrees warmer as much as how polluted it is . Lets face it that even a good drink of warm water is much much better then something so toxic to be able to either kill of make you sick .

The (tptb) figured out back in the 60's 70's that they needed to get off the pollution talk and they brought into the debate CO2 and claimed it a pollutant ,as if it was not part of the essential parts of life . They have turned the conversation upside down and sideways in order to avoid the real issue and to make a buck of us lesser IQ's that pay the bills because that is who we are .

This seems to be the book for average people to understand. Lot's of pictures.

From today's Democracy Now broadcast.

MICHAEL MANN:
Yeah, so, you know, there’s been a decades-long campaign by fossil fuel interests and politicians who earn their pay, paid talking heads, front groups, all of which exist essentially for no other purpose than to confuse the public and policymakers about climate change, to convince the public and policymakers that the scientific—that there is no scientific consensus. The forces of denial, again, most of them funded or tied in some way to fossil fuel interests, understand that all they need to do is divide the public and confuse the public about this issue to prevent progress from taking place.

And I wanted to actually draw upon something that Oliver mentioned. Governor Rick Scott of Florida has received quite a bit of funding from the Koch brothers over the years. He is a climate change denier. So here you have a state which is on the front lines of dealing with the impacts of climate change, and not just because of the possibility of more extreme weather events, more intense hurricanes, a trend that we see and a trend that we know is related to climate change, but you combine these intensifying storms with the rising sea level, and, forgive the pun, you get a perfect storm of consequences for coastal flooding. And we’re going to see exceptional coastal flooding associated with Matthew, not just because of the intensity of the storm, but because of the fact that sea level rise has added substantially to the impact of storms like Matthew. So there’s this amazing hypocrisy, which we explore in the book, when it comes to politicians like Rick Scott, who are almost literally burying their heads in the sand when it comes to acknowledging and recognizing the impacts of climate change.

And ironically, you know, the city of Miami is already dealing with this problem. They’re spending millions of dollars building pumps to help pump out the seawater as it encroaches upon Miami Beach. They’re dealing with the impacts of climate change on a regular basis, and yet their governor, Rick Scott, actually tried to outlaw any discussion of climate change or global warming in state-related business. So there’s this amazing disconnect. And we do find ourselves in a madhouse, quite literally, when it comes to dealing with climate change deniers like Rick Scott and many other politicians, who are essentially acting as agents for the fossil fuel industry rather than representing our own interests.

Yes, there are people whose purpose in the game is to cause confusion and division of public opinion for the benefit of patrons.
edit on 7-10-2016 by pthena because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 10 2016 @ 10:03 PM
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originally posted by: research100
a reply to: rickymouse

do you know this fact...the was an explosion in the jellyfish population off of japan...they ran many many tests, no results...finally the scientist raised the water temp I think 2 degress....jelly fish population exploded just from the wster being a little bit warmer.

now, if a simple thing as a couple of degrees up in the water temp can cause that..what else can it do???


I would think that algae blooms would be more of a problem. Climate change is real and man is creating the tipping point with all sorts of unnaturally concentrated chemistry being released into the environment. Taxing people will not solve the problem though, neither will all the change they are proposing. It appears they are just trying to stimulate the economy, they will boost production and sales and further destruction of the earth.




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