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Cathy O'brien -Trance Formation of America

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posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 11:05 AM
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Thank you slave for the update.
I agree, this is a case of enormous possibilities and one to be researched and explored fully. It's a shame that the case is relatively unheard of... spread the word !!




posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 11:08 PM
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I think this video will do a great job, of exposing the evil and making people do a double take.

quoting small peeps

...As for the graphic nature of the footage, you will see medical footage of Ms. O'Brien's vagina under examination, which was carved with an exacto knife to resemble a demon's face by her abusers. This face is shown in the video and the examining doctor gives her opinion on the legitimacy of the carving...

It is frightening at first but a sense of justice takes over, we need to get this out, her knowledge of the inner government is essential for understanding how to and who to focus on.

here's a direct link (quicktime 47megs)
www.archive.org...

some images from the video
















posted on Sep, 2 2005 @ 08:32 AM
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I have seen that video and was impressed. Shame I can’t imagine it being shown on mainstream TV, but we live in hope.
All the prominent people named in the book, the allegations..... No one looking to press any kind of legal action?? Only makes this more compelling. Anyone else have any ideas etc?



posted on Sep, 2 2005 @ 09:55 AM
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Interesting video. I found her book fasinating, as well, if a bit unprofessionally done. I'm of two minds on the whole issue at hand here---I beleive that there are certainly illicit abusive sexual cults within the power elite, to be sure, but I'm not sure if I beleive quite all the details. It's interesting reading and very frightening if true, and my suspicions are that much of what has been written about is true, but with perhaps enough intentional disinformation thrown in to discredit the whole thing is the mainstream ever decides to pay attention---which, of course, they won't. The deliberate disinformation trick is, of course, one of the oldest intelligence agency cons in the world.
On another note, is anyone familiar with a book called "Thanks For The Memories---The Truth Has Set Me Free" by another purported MONARCH survivor named Brice Taylor? I'd love to read this thing, but it's incredibly hard to find---Amazon marketplace has a copy for $250.00 and they typically sell for around the same price on ebay. Does anybody know the story behind why this is so expensive? Like I say, I'd love to get my hands on a copy, but I can't justify laying out that kind of bread for it.
---Ryan



posted on Sep, 7 2005 @ 02:58 AM
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From a transcript 1996

www.freedomdomain.com...

There is video of this event as well, if anyone knows where I can download it it would be appreciated


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Cathy:
Yes. There is a chapter in the book pertaining to Bohemian Grove and some of the meetings that went on there
between the politicians and world leaders that were involved.
That is a place that needs to be exposed for exactly what it is.
Mark:
Someone asked: 'Considering the things you've seen and the places you've been why are you still alive today?'

I can tell you from personal experience, I can't tell you all the places I've been, I wonder why I'm still alive today. But
her…it remains a total mystery to me and it always will.

Now her body bears the scars. She has some of the things that they can't take away, that they can't deny. Like Mr
Byrd, if he were undressed before Congress and the nation, there are things he can't deny; and Mr Cheney as
well. But there are undeniable scars that this lady carries that are not on her mind, they are on her brain stem, all
over her body, thousands of stun gun scars, and a vaginal mutilation that defies the worst horror story you can
imagine.

Those are things that people don't do to themselves.

I had a CIA boy who was palming himself off as an enforcement officer with the DEA who was on assignment to the
US Customs, Florida – that should have been a tip-off. He said: 'You know, FBI believes she had that done to
herself.'

I said: 'Of course she did. With a pocket knife, moron!' I said: 'How in the world would anybody even find anybody
evil enough to do something like that?' And I tracked it down. It's an ancient Egyptian practise taught to Michael
Aquino. And I understand from her that he is alleged to be the one that told her handler, Alex Houston, how to use
carving knives to do it. He bragged that he was a 'carver'; he carved people.



posted on Sep, 7 2005 @ 09:42 AM
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Aquino is certainly an interesting and depraved character, from all that I have read. I used to scoff at claims of "Satanic Ritual Abuse," but now I am more open-minded. I also beleive that many "Satanic killings" are contract killings for the CIA and other agencies, made bloodier and more gruesome to disguise their true motive. Many people, including author Dave McGowan in his new book "Programmed To Kill," which covers Aquino in some detail, believe that Satanic cults have replaced the Mafia's "Murder Inc." as the primary contract-killing organization of the CIA, and from all that I have read lately, I am inclined to think that is probably true. There are jsut way too many ties between these cults and the intelligence community to ignore.
---Ryan



posted on Sep, 10 2005 @ 12:07 AM
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From a transcript 1996

www.freedomdomain.com...

There is video of this event as well, if anyone knows where I can download it it would be appreciated


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Cathy:
Yes. There is a chapter in the book pertaining to Bohemian Grove and some of the meetings that went on there
between the politicians and world leaders that were involved.
That is a place that needs to be exposed for exactly what it is.
Mark:
Someone asked: 'Considering the things you've seen and the places you've been why are you still alive today?'

I can tell you from personal experience, I can't tell you all the places I've been, I wonder why I'm still alive today. But
her…it remains a total mystery to me and it always will.

Now her body bears the scars. She has some of the things that they can't take away, that they can't deny. Like Mr
Byrd, if he were undressed before Congress and the nation, there are things he can't deny; and Mr Cheney as
well. But there are undeniable scars that this lady carries that are not on her mind, they are on her brain stem, all
over her body, thousands of stun gun scars, and a vaginal mutilation that defies the worst horror story you can
imagine.

Those are things that people don't do to themselves.

I had a CIA boy who was palming himself off as an enforcement officer with the DEA who was on assignment to the
US Customs, Florida – that should have been a tip-off. He said: 'You know, FBI believes she had that done to
herself.'

I said: 'Of course she did. With a pocket knife, moron!' I said: 'How in the world would anybody even find anybody
evil enough to do something like that?' And I tracked it down. It's an ancient Egyptian practise taught to Michael
Aquino. And I understand from her that he is alleged to be the one that told her handler, Alex Houston, how to use
carving knives to do it. He bragged that he was a 'carver'; he carved people.



posted on Sep, 18 2005 @ 10:59 PM
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These are interviews with Cathy O'Brien and Mark Phillips (quicktime files)

Cathy O'Brien Interview

Mark Phillips Pt1

Mark Phillips Pt 2

enjoy



posted on Sep, 18 2005 @ 11:13 PM
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Shouldn't Cathy O'Brien's daughter be an adult by now? If not she is clsoe to it. I don't have my copy handy but I read that book at least 10 years ago and the daughter was 8 or 9 IIRC.

Any word from the daughter?



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 12:06 AM
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From what I recall

The CIA tried to mess with her head, and dump her in a crack-house

Mark and Cathy were tipped of and he had some idea of where to look for her.

Her daughter is now 19, I believe, and out of govt institutions but still living away from Cathy & Mark (with people they trust to protect her and care for her)



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 12:22 AM
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about all of the "unspeakable abuse" allegations:

The accusation itself dehumanizes the defendant.

I'm not saying it shouldn't be investigated. Far from it. But it is one hell of an effective way to prejudice people against your enemies.

These claims have been used before in Western history. The three biggest episodes were:

12th Century England, where the story was circulated that the JEWS ate Christian babies. Practically every Jew in England was killed.

15th-15th Century Germany, France, England, Spain: Witches murder little kids, and make flying ointment out of their fat. Probably something like a million women were tortured to death over this one.

20th Century Central Europe: JEWS are having sex with your women, so that your children will be bastardized subhumans. ~55 million dead. Some German men killed their children when their wives left them, on suspicion that their wives had been impregnated by Jews.


See, when you can accuse your enemy of something that "de-humanizes" them, then your supporters don't need to feel guilt for commiting what normal people would call atrocities.

Just have a look at the "David Icke/Reptilian" threads on this and other boards. The supporters have such a hatred for the "reptiles" that they fantasize about killing their "human forms."

I see the same thing here. Of course, I'll be accused of being mind controlled, because I am talking about restraint and self-reflection, and asking that the rules of evidence be followed.

But I know that I'm not mind controlled.

I know this because I've seen the Fnords.



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 03:58 AM
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The grand outlook they presented in 1995 with Trance Formation seems to be more prevalent now than at that time. Her prediction that George W Bush was being groomed for the presidency (from having witnessed conversations?) should be spooky. These people she accuses are very rich and powerful, and could legally sqaush her and Phillips like bugs for slander,why not?


Here's an interesting article that kind of sums up my response.
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...One problem with dismissing her story is that Mark Phillips - who "rescued " Ms. O'Brien and admits having an extensive working~g relationship with the CIA - co authored her book (Trance Formation of America), travels around the country with her, and helps publicize her story. I've meet Mr. Phillips and he talks and acts much like high-powered corporate executive. His support of Ms. O'Brien's story is persuasive. Author and investigative reporter Pat Shannon also claims Ms. O'Brien's allegations appear true. In short, there is reasonable support for Ms. O'Brien's story, but so far, no serious denials.

After all, if Ms. O'Brien's story was false, why tell it? To make money off "conspiracy nuts " ? I don't see how. Ms. O 'Brien and Mr. Phillips self-published their book, (Trance Formation of America); given the number of famous names, businesses, and institutions that they accuse of criminal acts, their book can never be a best seller - the resulting libel suits would be ruinous.

Further, if Ms. O'Brien's allegations of New World Order intrigue are false - where 's the payoff? Her story is so well written that if it's fiction, she and Mark Phillips should've published it as a mystery novel . . . with a little luck, they could retire on the movie rights. But presented: as truth, their story's commercial value is negligible and will not help them to get elected, employed, or enriched. (Interesting insight, hmm? Lies can sell, but truth will cost. . . ?)

Therefore. unless I find their motivation to lie, I can 't dismiss their story as false. In fact, the fundamental problem with Mark and Cathy's story might be that they are still alive to tell it. If their allegations are true, they're exposing a massive, international conspiracy of government sociopaths who can be reasonably described as Evil. If so, why haven't these "Satanists" silenced Mark and Cathy? On the other hand, although all of those she incriminates would certainly deny her allegations -- but if her allegations against scores of individuals and institutions are false, why hasn't someone sued her for libel ? Plausible explanations exist, but Ms. O 'Brien's story inspires more questions than answers.

So I don't know the truth of Cathy O'Brien's allegations. Therefore, the only truth that I report is this: the following text is an edited transcript of Cathy O'Brien's speech at a public meeting of the Texas Justice Council in Dallas, Texas on June 11, 1996.

If Cathy O'Brien's allegations are false, they still contain enough insight to warrant consideration. If her allegations are true--they demand study and vigorous political response.

You judge:

more here

www.parascope.com...

[edit on 19-9-2005 by slave]



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 06:32 AM
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well, have she and her handler quit their day jobs?

I have self-published, too.

Not because anyone would take my book. I self-p'd because I wan't willing to settle for a quarter of my profits. I did it myself because I WAS convinced my book would sell.

And it is harder than you'd think to successfully sue for libel. The courts have said that if you're a celebrity, anyone can allege whatever. And guess what, if you're in my book, you've appeared in print, and are therefore a celebrity.

The question of how she and her cia buddy conduct themselves or develop their cause is independent of the truth-value of their claims.


If YOU are the target of horrible allegations, it's kind of a "tar baby." The more you deal with it, even to deny, the harder it sticks to you. Every time your name comes up, someone says "NWO."



posted on Sep, 19 2005 @ 09:54 AM
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Here is a video of skeptical university students listening to Phillips and O'Brien, asking pretty much the same questions you have, it is worth watching for the reactions these people had to them personally.

It may take awhile to download

www.guerrillanews.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink">web.archive.org

n these outtakes from the shoots for The Most Dangerous Game, Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien discuss the difficulties in publishing their book and the challenges they faced after it was in the public domain.

www.archive.org...


mod edit to shorten link

[edit on 6-10-2005 by DontTreadOnMe]



posted on Oct, 6 2005 @ 02:29 AM
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Odd, how many impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible things are being spoken aloud these days in America. That's how Bill Bennett characterized his thesis that "you could abort every black baby in this country and your crime rate would go down." Perhaps that's also a fair description of the freewheeling hypocrite himself.

Bennett makes one of the wilder celebrity cameos in Cathy O'Brien's Trance-formation of America. It's not so much the sexual violence ("Bennett apparently found perverse pleasure in whipping me"), which by the time he turns up in the story has all but lost its power to shock, but the scene in what O'Brien calls the underground mind control lab of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center that is most weirdly notable.

O'Brien is lying on a metal table, having been administered a drug to create "total compliance":

In the darkness surrounding me, I could hear Bill Bennett talking, "This is my brother, Bob. He and I work as one unit. We are alien to this dimension - two beings from another plane."

more here

rigorousintuition.blogspot.com...



posted on Oct, 6 2005 @ 08:58 AM
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Very interesting. From his comments in the press lately, it certainly seems that Bennett has values that are alien to this dimension. This is the same guy who has continued his nauseating role as some type of "morals and values crusader" even after it was revealed that he was a degenerate high-stakes Las Vegas gambler. The man's hypocricy knows no bounds, and this fits in very well , all things considered.
---Ryan



posted on Oct, 6 2005 @ 06:51 PM
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Good link, slave. I found this picture there also, which lends interesting credence to Cathy O'Brien's claims regarding Cheney and his male member:



The blog says that photographer reported this is not an optical illusion. As Cathy O'Brien reports in her book, Cheney does seem to have an up-sized tool. Perhaps she just guessed correctly? Hmm... In any case, this picture is funny in more ways than one.

rigorousintuition.blogspot.com...



posted on Oct, 10 2005 @ 02:06 AM
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From a transcript

ic.net...

...During the 1980s, I was forced to work under President Reagan's Secretary of Education, Bill Bennett. Bill Bennett publicly claims to be a Jesuit, but he does not define the faction of the Jesuit Order that he is talking about. He, along with Lamar Alexander, who is also a victimizer in all of this mess, are responsible for bringing the Outcome Based Education into our school system. The Outcome Based Education was designed to increase our children's learning capacity, while decreasing their ability to critically analyze. By decreasing their ability to critically analyze, they will readily accept information. And I'm seeing now where people all across the country are absolutely upset with the way that they send their children to school, and their children come home completely different and robotic, completely different from anything that they recognize, with values of Socialism and New World Order control...



posted on Oct, 21 2005 @ 05:36 AM
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I just got done reading through this thread. I am no expert in any way on the subject. However, I have read about Cathy O'brien in many, many different places around the Internet. Not just in Indymedia or Prison Planet. I have taken an interest, well "interest" is maybe not the proper word. I find the whole thing chilling at best, and based on nothing more than my gut feeling about our government, and it being far from what it proclaims to be, and Cheney has always given me a very creepy feeling, I think that the story has probably been exagerated, but that there is most likely basic truth in it.

Someone early on in this thread said something like that people don't just block out memories of terrible things, just ask any vet. Well, I believe that they do. Ask any vet, and the vet will tell you what he/she remembers, and leave out anything that their mind has blocked out in order to protect them from going insane.

Not everyone gets split personalities from traumatic experiences, at least not like "Cybil", but I believe that everyone here and elsewhere has at least one or more blocked memory(s). They don't have to be headline making traumatic experiences. But, everyone has their own threshold at just how much of what unpleasantness they can take, before their brain shuts off any more in order to protect the person's sanity. Each person's trauma could be very different also, from another's.

I don't know about you guys, but I have never shuddered so much about a government, any government, than the one in place now. And, it's not Bush himself who I think is the real threat.

O.K. my 2 cents



posted on Oct, 22 2005 @ 07:27 AM
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Well this is certainly one of the most distrubing things I have ever read, because of the implications.

I discredit stuff like Icke's book because he just gets too fanciful to ever focus on a determined theme. It's how a lot of conspiracy theory books ultimately fail, because they don't stay focused. They get greedy.

There's a problem tho in dismissing all this stuff. And that is the Franklin Coverup. One really should read about John Decamp's unravelling of the Washington DC sex abuse scandal before looking into the Cathy O'Brien stuff.

In that book, Paul Bonnoci describes in his private journal in 1985(he must have been maybe 9 or 10) Bohemian Grove way too accurately to be discounted. There had been no mainstream or known vivid descriptions of Bohemian Grove until SPY magazine in 1989.

Tranceformation seems to go off the deep end...however it is the stuff in there that only someone who is in the know could ever be privvy too...and then even more eerie the stuff predicted or said that we now know. And that is why her book cannot be completely dismissed.

We know of the CIA complicity in drugs, the MK Ultra mind control,
and the massive child sex ring going on right now in Asia and elsewhere. We know the CIA has profitted from aspects of the drug trade. And if we are to believe just a pinch of The Franklin Coverup or Tranceformation...
then the reality is truly just too soul crushing.

I really wish there could be some solid and well funded investigation into this whole matter. Because this is not an issue of conspiracy theory, this is a serious matter of state sponsored abuse that needs to be investigated.

Has any mainstream sites, publications or tv shows make reference to either
Cathy O Brien's story or the Washington Child sex abuse case in recent years? My gosh I think we all could wish this entire story is a hoax.



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