Big List of Trump and Clinton Connections

Over the last little while I've been bookmarking articles I've come across documenting connections between Donald Trump and the Clintons and I thought I'd dump it into a thread.

A number of these connections will be familiar to many of you though I'm feeling fairly confident that there won't be many if any who are familiar with them all. Some at least appear innocuous, others are far more difficult to explain away and a few are downright jaw dropping.

Given the size of the list and the constraints of the format, I won't be going into great detail but the included links should serve as a jumping off point for anyone interested in doing further reading. I generally tried to order the list by media coverage with the most well known first.

The Clintons attended the Trump's wedding in 2005.

I won't bother posting the picture for the 1,000th time. According to Trump, the Clintons were there because he was a donor and he "told her" to be there. Hillary said she was there because she thought "it would be fun" and she was planning to be in Florida at the time. Reportedly, Hillary sat in the front pew during the ceremony and Bill didn't arrive until the reception (were all the bridesmaids account for?).

CNN - Clinton explains why she went to Trump wedding
Newsmax - Hillary Clinton Had a Front-Pew Seat at Donald Trump's Wedding

Their kids are friends and so are their son-in-laws.

I haven't found any information about exactly when these two became friends but they claimed to have been introduced by their now husbands and Chelsea attended Ivanka's wedding in 2009. While the two women have been spotted together without their husbands, the couples reported double date. I also haven't found anything pointing to the connection between the husbands except their faith (both are Jewish, Ivanka converted, Chelsea did not) and that they both have wealthy, politically connected parents (in fact, both of Chelsea's in-laws are former politicians) and fathers who've gone to prison.

People - Chelsea Clinton and Ivanka Trump Are Bipartisan BFFs: Inside Their Unlikely Friendship
Heavy - Ivanka Trump & Chelsea Clinton: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

The Trump family has a history of supporting Hillary's campaigns.

Donald Trump donated to Hillary in 2002, 2005, 2006 and 2007. Melania donated to Clinton's Senate campaign in 2006. Ivanka made three donations to Hillary's Senate campaign. Donald Trump Jr also donated on three occassions to Hillary campaigns, including once to her presidential campaign.

Politifact

In 2014, Trump gave between $100,001 and $250,000 to the Clinton Foundation. Ivanka gave between $5,001 and $10,000.

Not much to add to this that wouldn't be pure speculation.

The Hill - Trump gave at least $100K to Clinton Foundation
Politico - Clinton Foundation hangs on to donations from Donald Trump

Bill Clinton and Donald Trump are well acquainted and golf buddies

A few interesting quotes compiled by The Daily Beast.

Bill Clinton on Trump: “I like him. And I love playing golf with him.”

Donald on the Clintons: “I think she really works hard and I think she does a good job,” he had said. “Hillary Clinton I think is a terrific woman. I am biased because I have known her for years. I live in New York. She lives in New York. I really like her and her husband both a lot.”

This I found really interesting:

“He has been, believe it or not, uncommonly nice to Hillary and me,” Clinton said of Trump on The Daily Show last month.

This CLEARLY only scratches the surface of the various photo OPs (Bill and Donald, Trump Tower 2000 for instance), dinner parties, celebrity golf tournaments, etc and of course weddings but I've got a list to get through here folks!

The Daily Beast - Donald Trump and Bill Clinton: Behind the ‘Bromance’

Now we're going to step it up a bit.

They share the same Delaware address

This brick-and-mortar, nondescript two-story building in Wilmington, Delaware would be awfully crowded if its registered occupants — 285,000 companies — actually resided there. What’s come to be known as the “Delaware loophole” — the unassuming building at 1209 North Orange Street — has become, as the Guardian described, “famous for helping tens of thousands of companies avoid hundreds of millions of dollars in tax.”

MintPress News - Trump, Clinton Both Refuse To Explain Why They Share Same Address In Delaware

They both have multiple CFR connections

While it's long been known that Hillary has a relationship with Henry Kissinger, she wasn't the only one kissing his ring this election cycle, Donald Trump went to seek the old hawk's approval for his own policy plans which isn't surprising since he's been influential behind the scenes during most recent administrations, including those of Bush, Clinton and Obama.

“One of the biggest diplomats in the country who is a friend of mine, you saw recently I actually met with him and it was all over the place, so you can figure it out,” Trump began, apparently referencing a meeting he had with Kissinger, former secretary of state and foreign policy guru, in the middle of May.

Trump continued: “And he said, ‘Donald, I thought you were wrong in your approach. I thought it was too tough. But you know what? All of those countries are calling me, What do we do, what do we do, how can we make him happy?'”

Through a spokesperson, Kissinger disputed Trump’s account. “On foreign policy, you identify many key problems” Kissinger said of Trump. “I do not generally agree with the solutions. One-shot outcomes are probably not possible.”

Time - Donald Trump Says Henry Kissinger Backs His Foreign Policy Stance—But He Begs to Differ
CNN - Do Clinton, Trump need Henry Kissinger?

Donald J. Trump, who again declined on Thursday morning to say whom he talks to about foreign affairs, held a private briefing last summer with Richard N. Haass, the president of the Council on Foreign Relations, a spokeswoman for Mr. Haass said Thursday.

NYT - Donald Trump Held Briefing With Richard Haass, Head of Council on Foreign Relations

While Clinton herself is not an official member of the CFR, her affiliations with the organization are abundantly clear as she herself admits. On July 15, 2009, Clinton spoke to the Washington DC satellite facility of the CFR where she stated, I am delighted to be here in these new headquarters. I have been often to, I guess, the mother ship in New York City, but it’s good to have an outpost of the Council right here down the street from the State Department. We get a lot of advice from the Council, so this will mean I won’t have as far to go to be told what we should be doing and how we should think about the future.

Activist Post - Hillary Clinton Brags About Getting Her Marching Orders From The CFR

They both have Soros connections

It would be redundant to detail the Soros connections to Clinton on ATS but what has been overlooked is the Soros connections to Donald Trump. I beleive I may have posted a bit about a few of their financial and high society ties before but I've got another one to add to the list.

Matthew Vadum, the senior vice president of the nonprofit watchdog group Capital Research Center, has written and researched extensively on the Soros financial networks. “If Hillary wins, there is no question she will be Soros’s puppet,” Vadum told TheBlaze.

“They go way, way back and they’re ideological soulmates. If Trump wins, it’s not so clear what his working relationship with Soros will be. Trump has been cozy with Soros in the world of high finance, but that was before the candidate’s recent conversion to conservatism.”

In 2004, the year that Soros spent $20 million out of pocket to try to defeat President George W. Bush’s re-election effort, he also made the $160 million loan to Trump to build Trump Tower Chicago. The $160 million Soros investment came in the form of a so-called mezzanine loan, described by the Chicago Tribune as a second mortgage that charges a higher interest rate than the original construction loan. The website, Conservative Review, noted the loan, while also pointing out that the two billionaires spent Christmas Eve 2009 together, among other celebrities, according to the New York Post, Trump and Soros were also co-defendents in a lawsuit. In 2008, the developer Leslie Dick Worldwide filed a RICO lawsuit against 17 parties, including Trump and Soros over the 2003 sale of a General Motors building in Manhattan. The suit was fled in U.S. District Court in Manhattan.

The Blaze - Why George Soros Could Have Major Clout in Either a Trump or Clinton Presidency

Here's the new bit and you'll be reading this name again shortly. Steven Mnuchin, Trump’s National Finance Chairman and a one of his major economic policy advisors worked for George Soros (side note: he's also been a Clinton donor).

Mnuchin became founder, president and CEO of OneWest Bank Group LLC from 2009 to 2015, a bank backed by Soros and several other hedge fund managers and billionaires.

Politico - Trump's new finance chair has thrown money Clinton's way

From 2003 to 2004, Mnuchin worked as chief executive of SFM Capital Management, which the Wall Street Journal reports is backed by Soros. He also worked for Soros Fund Management LLC, according to Bloomberg.

Center for Public Integrity - Donald Trump's new finance guru: once a Clinton donor, Soros employee

see also: Conservative Review - Trump Pals Around With George Soros

They both have Wall St. connections including Goldman Sachs

Like the ties to Soros, much time has been dedicated to covering Hillary's ties to Wall Street which go far beyond giving super expensive speeches that she doesn't want us to read but ATS and alt right press many Trump supporters are so fond of have been largely mute on Trump's connections.

I said you'd be reading more about Mnuchin shortly and that's because before his professional ties with Soros, Mnuchin was at Goldman Sachs for 17 years where he was a former partner.

Stephen Bannon, Executive Chairman of Breitbart News until becoming Donald Trump's campaign CEO, worked at Goldman Sachs right out of the military.

After his military service, Bannon worked at Goldman Sachs as an investment banker in the Mergers & Acquisitions Department.[9] In 1990, Bannon and several colleagues from Goldman Sachs launched Bannon & Co., a boutique investment bank specializing in media. Through Bannon & Co., Bannon negotiated the sale of Castle Rock Entertainment to Ted Turner. As payment, Bannon & Co. accepted a stake in five television shows, including Seinfeld. Société Générale purchased Bannon & Co. in 1998.[10]

Wikipedia - Stephen Bannon

Trump knows where to go when he needs a loan. While many will argue that it's the nature of doing business, I'm guessing when Donald Trump needs money, it's a little different process than when the rest of us apply for mortgage or loan.

Goldman Sachs once gave Ted Cruz's campaign a $1.43 million loan. His campaign also got a loan of less than $500,000 from Citibank. According to Donald Trump, in a claim that has been repeated roughly a billion times, that means THEY OWN HIM. Even though, as far as I can tell, all or part of these loans have been repaid. As I reported yesterday, at various times Donald Trump has had hundreds of millions of dollars in loans from Citibank and Goldman, some of which have been repaid, some of which were discharged in bankruptcy when Trump's Altantic City casino went belly up. By Trump's own standard, Citibank and Goldman own him, too.

Red State - Donald Trump is OWNED by Every Bank on Wall Street

Here I am on post three. I know I said I wouldn't go into much detail — and trust me, this ain't much detail — but I want to get this next bit in too. I'll have to wrap up in post #4.

Another prominent economic adviser to Trump is John Paulson, the billionaire and hedge fund manager who founded Paulson & Co in 1994. Paulson, who formerly worked at Bear Stearns, is famous for shorting the housing market in the run up to the financial crisis of 2007-08, earning approximately $4 billion from the trade. The billionaire is also a member of the CFR, in addition to previously backing Mitt Romney in his failed 2012 presidential bid.

In addition to Mnuchin and Paulson, Trump’s economic advisers include Stephen Feinberg, the CEO of the private investment firm, Cerberus Capital Management; Stephen Calk, the founder of the Federal Savings Bank who has previously worked for Chase Manhattan Mortgage Corp and Bank of America; and Wilbur Ross, the billionaire who spent 25 years running Rothschild Inc’s bankruptcy practice. Trump has also reshuffled his campaign team recently, appointing Stephen Bannon, a former investment banker at Goldman Sachs, as his new campaign CEO.

Counterpunch - Trump?s Connections to Wall Street, Soros, Blackwater and the CFR

As we draw close to the end of this late night data dump, I'll leave with you two connections with Clinton that have been covered extensively but still don't seem to have garnered much attention from the average voter.

Donald Trump and Bill Clinton both travelled to Jeffrey Epstein's private island

I'm four posts in and this is no time to start an in-depth conversation about how this sexual super predator is one of the most heavily connected people in the world who hosts extravagant dinner parties with guests lists that look like slightly shorter lists of Bilderberg conference attendees and flies/has flown politicians, movie stars, members of the British royal family (Prince Andrew is a close personal friend — suck that in), bankers and every other variety of elite to his private island.

What's most disturbing to me about Jeffrey Epstein is that being a convicted pedophile seemingly hasn't put a dent in social calendar. That said, here's a couple teasers that hint at the connections between Bill, Donald and Jeffrey Epstein.

And just last week, yet another “Jane Doe” filed a suit in New York accusing Epstein and Donald Trump of raping her at a series of sex parties when she was only 13.

Trump has denied Jane Doe’s claims and his reps have said he barely knew Epstein—even though New York media in the ’90s regularly chronicled his comings-and-goings at Epstein’s Upper East Side palace, and even though Epstein had 14 private numbers for Trump and his family in his little black book. Meanwhile, Bill and Hillary Clinton have remained mum about their ties to the Palm Beach pedophile—despite evidence that shows Bill was one of the most famous and frequent passengers on Epstein’s “Lolita Express” and that Epstein donated money to the Clinton Foundation even after his conviction.

The Daily Beast - The Billionaire Pedophile Who Could Bring Down Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton

Fox News reports: Clinton’s presence aboard Jeffrey Epstein’s Boeing 727 on 11 occasions has been reported, but flight logs show the number is more than double that, and trips between 2001 and 2003 included extended junkets around the world with Epstein and fellow passengers identified on manifests by their initials or first names, including “Tatiana.”

The Republican presumptive nominee apparently got in on the action, too. Trump’s ties to Epstein — a man Trump once called a “terrific guy” — and Sex Slave Island have been chronicled by The Daily Wire here.

The Daily Wire - Both Trump And Clinton Went To Jeffrey Epstein's Sex Slave Island.

The media shouldn’t grill Trump on this sort of thing unless they’re prepared to do the same to Bill Clinton​. But Trump’s ties to Epstein are deep and nasty enough to (at a minimum) disable this line of attack on the Clintons – including Epstein pleading the Fifth Amendment to the question, “Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?” Trump himself once told New York Magazine: “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump booms from a speakerphone. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

National Review - Is There Anything to a Lawsuit Accusing Donald Trump of Raping a 13-Year-Old Girl with Bill Clinton’s Billionaire Sex Buddy?

The bolded line above is creepy as all hell (it's my bold) isn't it? Is it any wonder that in some regards, the kid gloves have stayed on this election and we're treated to BS like youtube video nonsense and "short circuit" being repeated 1,000,0000 times a day instead of direct attacks on something as scandalous as Clinton's 26 flights on Epstein's plane?

I'll leave you with one last connection and this one might turn out to be the absolute most important, particularly if you're of the opinion that Donald Trump is controlled opposition.

A few weeks before announcing his candidacy, Trump sought Bill Clinton's advice

The story was broken by Washington Post.

Trump took the call from his office in Trump Tower in New York, according to the four allies, who requested anonymity because they are not authorized to speak publicly. The call came as Trump was making a final decision about whether to run, and he was candid about his political ambitions and his potential interest in seeking the White House during the talk, these allies said.

The 42nd president listened intently and then analyzed Trump’s prospects and his desire to rouse the GOP base, the Trump allies said.

The tone of the call was informal, and Clinton never urged Trump to run, the four people said. Rather, they said, Clinton sounded curious about Trump’s moves toward a presidential bid and told Trump that he was striking a chord with frustrated conservatives and was a rising force on the right. One person with knowledge of Clinton’s end of the call said the former president was upbeat and encouraging during the conversation, which occurred as Trump was speaking out about GOP politics and his prescriptions for the nation.

Clinton aides declined to speak on the record about the call, saying the conversation was personal.

Washington Post - Donald Trump talked politics with Bill Clinton weeks before launching 2016 bid

Here we can see Bill Clinton talking to Stephen Colbert about it and denying that he urged Trump to run:

"His daughter told my daughter that he had tried to call me, and I didn't get the message. So, I simply called him back," Clinton explained. "And I don't know whether he had ever intended to discuss this with me or not, and this has happened to you before, I bet, I think by the time I got him back, he had forgotten why he called me in the first place, probably."

"You never said, like Iowa is beautiful this time of year or anything like that? Nothing like that?" Colbert pressed.

"Not a thing. I had a very pleasant conversation with him, and it wasn't about running for office. And so I missed the chance," Clinton deadpanned.

Politico - Bill Clinton denies calling up Trump and asking him to run

Okay well I didn't finish on that post, sue me! Here's Trump denying that Clinton urged him to run:

"My mind was already totally made up. I was already running, essentially," Trump told CNN's Don Lemon on "CNN Tonight," saying Clinton would have no interest in a Trump run because the magnate was "Hillary's worst nightmare." "We didn't really discuss it," Trump said. Trump's comments come several days after The Washington Post reported that Clinton called Trump in late May, encouraging the real estate mogul to "to play a larger role in the Republican Party."

CNN - Trump denies Bill Clinton talked him into running

There are of course other connections but I'm getting a bit tired of posting and I've run WAAAAY over. Of particular interest is the possible connection between Manafort and Podesta that I simply haven't had a chance to read up on (I'm slacking). Something else that comes to mind is that the Clinton campaign is commonly cited as being responsible for popularizing birtherism in 2008 (though it was "created" by a GOP opponent in an earlier Senate race) and of course, Trump was a major player in the birtherism. Yet another connection would be Trump - Shumer - Kushner - Clinton. Trump has a lengthy relationship with Shumer whose biggest donors in 2010 were none other than Chelsea's in-laws.

I haven't proofread any of this so my apologies for any typo or other errors.

If anyone would like to add details about those or any other connections, please do!

a reply to: theantediluvian

All these puppets are connected. Nice thread OP and thanks for the effort involved.

In the world of corporations and money and politics, it does not surprise me one bit that these connections have existed and may or may not continue to exist despite an apparent perception that they don't.

The whole shebang is smoke and mirrors and either vote is going to be a right-royal-shafting that will result in more warpigging and more zero #'s given once elected. Trumps made is very clear he is going to go after ISIS hard - and that won't work with gumdrops and lollipops, no, that's gonna take a whole lotta hardware, and resources. Hillarys foreign policy is the same, just different.

This is my opinion and by God I hope I'm wrong, but I've a feeling I'm not.

But Trump is "anti-establishment" ...

a reply to: theantediluvian

This is the journalism that should have taken place by the major pundits during the primaries. I'm still writing in Bernie. It should have been Bernie.

It takes a lot to put such a huge effort forth knowing the deaf eyes it will fall on. Thank you.

I dont think it means much..

I have great friends and work colleagues I can spend hours with..

but if i was in a political debate with them, i would destroy them because we dont agree one some big things.

It looks like this was too much of a reality dose... for both sides.

a reply to: theantediluvian

But they are only the type of friends that exchange donations for political favors....they don't claim to be friend-friends. Or not now, anyway.

So that matters...right?


(OP--I did know pretty much all of this, but it's nice to see it all collected in one spot. S&Fs)