Hamas now portrays Gaza as idyllic paradise in the middle east (Video)

a reply to: Gothmog

You do know there was a wall between Egypt and the Gaza Strip , didnt you ? A well guarded border . There are reasons for the walls and guards. The Palestinians long ago ruined their standing with Egypt , Jordan , Syria , Lebanon, etc..

not only that, it was to keep al-Qaeda out.

According to analysts at a January 2010 Egyptian security conference, the barrier reflects Cairo's concern that al-Qaeda-inspired militants from the Gaza Strip will infiltrate Egypt after being forced out by Hamas, the de facto governing authority in the Strip

and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas supported it.

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas declared support for the barrier, adding: "It is the Egyptians’ sovereign right in their own country. Legitimate supplies should be brought through the legal crossings

both above come from, cause it's fast.
Egypt–Gaza barrier

a reply to: intrptr

Mostly a fence? lol, link to images of prison wall surrounding Gaza...

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This is why the word "mostly" was chosen...
I agree there is a wall in some parts to block sniper fire from the nearby buildings.
But as I said, most of the Gaza border is a fence.

a reply to: MaxMech

On the Israeli side its a fence, on the Gazan side a continuous thirty foot cement wall topped with razor wire.

But go ahead, deny so others won't see.

image s of Gaza wall

a reply to: intrptr

No, it entirely surrounds Gaza, except on the sea side, the ocean is patrolled by Israeli gun boats. Theres also a wall that stretches four hundred miles surrounding the other Palestinian prison colony, the west bank.

I don't know if you are trying to spread disinformation or just trolling hoping no one will check your claims.
Southern Gaza border is controlled by Egypt.
The West Bank is not surrounded by a wall as the West Bank barrier is (also) mostly a fence.
Only about 6% is an actual wall, placed near populated areas to block sniper fire.
I would tell you to check your facts but we both know you are not going to check anything, as gaining knowledge is not your goal in this thread.

a reply to: intrptr

As far as the tunnels, filter information about them from here. The western main stream paints them as Hamas and weapons only, the truth is more revealing...

The second link from your google search (not a "western main stream"):

Gaza’s underground: A vast tunnel network that empowers Hamas

a reply to: intrptr

As far as Hamas promoting a peaceful Gaza, the video is for Gazans who's oppression can use some uplifting.

Ohhhhh I get it... the video is made by Hamas to make Gazans "feel better"...
How about stop spending all the international support on terror infrastructure?
How about some actual actions to improve the situation in Gaza instead of a YouTube video?

I'm also interested to know how did you arrived at the above conclusion? Are you part of Hamas PR department?

a reply to: intrptr

On the Israeli side its a fence, on the Gazan side a continuous thirty foot cement wall topped with razor wire.

Do me a favor, save your propaganda for the mosque, or just go away. No one is listening.
If someone here have doubts about this, here is high res map showing Gaza border in detail (spoiler: the wall part is less than 10%):
Gaza Strip - Access and Closure

originally posted by: BelowLowAnnouncement
Well good luck finding it tourists, Google removed Palestine from their maps and labeled it Israel.

www.rt.com...

Y a know why? because it wasn't ever a country and there is proof the ROMANS illegally renamed it in the past. FInally someone is waking up.

a reply to: yuppa

136 UN members recognize it, and so do I.

you'd think Israel would be know a thing or two about repressive regimes dismissing and extinguishing an entire group of people.

now a more beautified, clean and filtered Gaza.

oh, the irony...

originally posted by: BelowLowAnnouncement
a reply to: yuppa

136 UN members recognize it, and so do I.

Those 136 are mostly anti western. Until the whole UN recognizes it its not a country. Israel was recognized as a country though. And besides the"palestinians" are not even a real people native there according to Yasser arafatt and PLO leadership from time to time,and they should know. Modern palestinians are REFUGEES from Surrounding countries.

originally posted by: yuppa
Until the whole UN recognizes it its not a country. Israel was recognized as a country though..

Is it ironic or just hypocritical then that 25 countries never recognized Israel..? Why is the UN's opinion suddenly relevant while their resolutions are ignored?

a reply to: MaxMech

The barrier, be it fence, wall, no mans land, whatever is continuos, a 'wall' isolating and enclosing the "Gazans".

Your 'diagram' reflects this.

a reply to: MaxMech

It is mostly a fence. Many countries have fences around their borders.

Except this fence isn't on Israels border it's illegally occupied land.

Yep, many countries have these as well. This is how you protect your borders.

Once again this isn't Israels border it's illegally occupied land.

The only aid they seem to need is with choosing which leisure activity to do today.

When making a video like this you try to show as much positive as you can. Showing people whose leisurely activity is starving can be such a downer to the video they made.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: BelowLowAnnouncement
Well good luck finding it tourists, Google removed Palestine from their maps and labeled it Israel.

www.rt.com...

Y a know why? because it wasn't ever a country and there is proof the ROMANS illegally renamed it in the past. FInally someone is waking up.

And when will you wake up? The Romans didn't illegally rename anything because acquiring land through war is how it was done back then. But now it is against international law.

originally posted by: SargonThrall

originally posted by: yuppa
Until the whole UN recognizes it its not a country. Israel was recognized as a country though..

Is it ironic or just hypocritical then that 25 countries never recognized Israel..? Why is the UN's opinion suddenly relevant while their resolutions are ignored?

Sorry Majority rules. because when the LEAGUE OF NATIONS created it the MAJORITY DID approve of it. The UN has to respect the Leagues previous findings or there would not be a UN. So the 25 countries in the UN didnt all recognize israel. big whoop. I should had specified.my bad.

Dont matter though.In short those 25 can go pound sand.

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: BelowLowAnnouncement
Well good luck finding it tourists, Google removed Palestine from their maps and labeled it Israel.

www.rt.com...

Y a know why? because it wasn't ever a country and there is proof the ROMANS illegally renamed it in the past. FInally someone is waking up.

And when will you wake up? The Romans didn't illegally rename anything because acquiring land through war is how it was done back then. But now it is against international law.

So then reparations for previous wrongs are not valid then right? The UN should correct the MIstakes of the Roman empire. And using the laws of today It Can be legally done. We have corrected such things done in the past before.
SO its perfectly fine for the Romans to had done that which has led to this current problem we have today?
No its not fine. Its just because it is Israel that you have a problem. If it was fake palestinians you would be saying I was right.

They are refugees of surrounding countries trying to claim something that is not theirs. their home countries REFUSE to take the lands Israel tried to give back after the wars per UN mandate AS LONG AS ITS FULL OF (traitors and anarchist)Who tried to overthrow their own governments.

So if you want to blame someone Blame ROME,and the surrounding countries who started this entire mess.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: BelowLowAnnouncement
Well good luck finding it tourists, Google removed Palestine from their maps and labeled it Israel.

www.rt.com...

Y a know why? because it wasn't ever a country and there is proof the ROMANS illegally renamed it in the past. FInally someone is waking up.

And when will you wake up? The Romans didn't illegally rename anything because acquiring land through war is how it was done back then. But now it is against international law.

So then reparations for previous wrongs are not valid then right? The UN should correct the MIstakes of the Roman empire. And using the laws of today It Can be legally done. We have corrected such things done in the past before.
SO its perfectly fine for the Romans to had done that which has led to this current problem we have today?
No its not fine. Its just because it is Israel that you have a problem. If it was fake palestinians you would be saying I was right.

They are refugees of surrounding countries trying to claim something that is not theirs. their home countries REFUSE to take the lands Israel tried to give back after the wars per UN mandate AS LONG AS ITS FULL OF (traitors and anarchist)Who tried to overthrow their own governments.

So if you want to blame someone Blame ROME,and the surrounding countries who started this entire mess.

You mean like how a bunch of Europeans trying to claim land as their homeland when they don't even come from that part of the world? If you knew as much about history as you think you do then you would know that the Jews back then gained their nation by conquering land through war. So it's ok for Jews to do one thing but it's not ok for the Romans to do the same thing? Hypocrite much? The people who are to blame are the Zionazis that started Israel with a bunch of fake Jews trying to claim land that doesn't belong to them.

a reply to: buster2010

Yawwn. predictable. The MAJORITY of JEWS came from MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES. NIce try.

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: buster2010

Yawwn. predictable. The MAJORITY of JEWS came from MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES. Nice try.

How does that give them the right to occupy another country and enclose the people that live there behind barbed wire and walls?

If you're going to illegally occupy another country it follows you have to 'lock them up', huh?