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Which Way Will The Wind Blow

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posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 01:21 PM
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Which way will the wind blow?

The “wind” being the TPTB.

Do you believe in manufactured fear, false flag attacks, etc?
I do.

If you do as well, then let’s think about whom it helps or what it helps.

Example. If Politician A is about to have an embarrassing news day, then we will likely see some manufactured false flag news story to overshadow this potentially damaging news.

If TPTB want gun control, then look out for a terror incident involving “normal” citizens with guns, etc.

We all know how this works, no need to go on and on with examples.

So, the question I have is:
Do TPTB want Trump or do they want Hillary?

I’m putting this theory forth:

If the TPTB want Hillary then expect to see no major controlled terror attacks between now and the election.

And

If TPTB want Trump, expect to see something pretty spectacular and horrifying closer to the election.

Just some thoughts about the crooked world we live in.




posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 01:39 PM
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I think the powers that be are Trump & Clinton and they've finally had enough of others doing their work for money when they can get paid to do it themselves.


Clinton plays the pawn.
Trump plays the outsider.

Neither is a puppet but they're the puppeteers.


As to false flags, I believe they occur...
Not often, but at moments they need them most.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
Which way will the wind blow?

The “wind” being the TPTB.

Do you believe in manufactured fear, false flag attacks, etc?
I do.


If that's what they are, don't you think they're awfully ineffective?

If they (who are they, anyway?) can manufacture 9/11, then why haven't they managed to go "all the way" with anything? Take guns, for instance -- if there was a group powerful enough to stage shootings and government collusion, then why don't they just pass a set of laws. No "false flags" just law-and-done.

I have heard about these operations for over 20 years, supposedly by very powerful people an organizations. During this same time period, many public agendas have been shoved down our throats.

The only thing I can figure is that they aren't very organized and aren't very powerful at all.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 01:50 PM
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I think the Wind (TPTB) will blow toward first woman President Clinton, and maybe later to President Kaine.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 01:55 PM
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The answer is they want, And, it will be hillary

The fact that they kept her from going to prison over the email scandal should tell you everything you need to know.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 01:55 PM
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a reply to: Byrd

Good points.
I don't know, perhaps there are two rival PTB behind the scenes?

Maybe they are both controlled by ET

Could be Reptiles vs Mammals

Or even worse, Reptiles vs Mammals vs Insects, although I feel that the insects might align with the reptoids since they both mostly lay eggs.

Anyways, lets not forget to "rock the vote"



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 01:59 PM
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I think they can achieve their goals either way.

Sure, they may be slowed down a bit with Trump, but I don't think one person will seriously hinder them either.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 02:03 PM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

Saw this today and thought it was absolutely perfect - it's from the movie "Princess Bride" if anyone remembers it - the one with Andre the Giant




posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 02:09 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
I think they can achieve their goals either way.

Sure, they may be slowed down a bit with Trump, but I don't think one person will seriously hinder them either.


Slowed down by Trump? No. He changes his mind as often as he changes his shoes. He makes up things on a daily basis, like 'letters' he gets from the NFL. he is Comacho and will be very easy to 'handle'.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: reldra

Maybe, maybe not.

I do know that if he steps out of line, he will be impeached. You're not thinking straight if you think his party will defend him the way the Democrats have consistently circled the wagons. So your fears of a fascist uprising are misplaced. I also know that there will almost certainly be bipartisan resistance to the things he tries to advance.

He will be able to veto, and that might slow the agenda down in some areas.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 02:16 PM
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originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

Saw this today and thought it was absolutely perfect - it's from the movie "Princess Bride" if anyone remembers it - the one with Andre the Giant



Excellent. Thanks



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 02:29 PM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

It's getting old and more are finding out.
False flags are not verifiable only a theory.
GUT is what we are really using here,that feeling you get BEFORE...
Cross correlation verified it enough for me but I AIN'T gonna write a book here.

AS I said before I am very worried about what happens when in a system or party is in fact shown to be corrupt.
How many can't let go because they want to sabotage all nationality and the idea of Extraordinary America suriving intact.
AS A matter of fact it is a KEY motivation to hunt them down and intellectually destroy their message.
To surrender ,go along and just show up.
If for ONE SECOND I thought they wanted to unite the country, they would have already won.
It goes to the obvious WHO?
We know who, COPS know who, it's EASY to find who,but NOT under admiralty law.
THAT is the BIT in our mouth and blinders on our heads from the Fatherland.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 02:36 PM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

1 more just for kicks





posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 03:06 PM
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I was thinkin about this the other day, I wouldn't be surprised if everythings nice and peaceful leading up to the election.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 03:15 PM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

I hear what your saying, but I don't think the false flag attacks are as common as some would have it, like virtually every terrorist attack, on the other hand they are certainly used from time to time and have been throughout history.

As far the TPTB staging one if they wanted Trump elected, I get your logic, but think if they were so powerful and united(which I'm sure they aren't) they wouldn't need to go to the trouble. I doubt nobody would get near the position of president in the first place if they weren't already under thumb or at least thought to be.

Though I think its more complicated than that, there are different factions always vying for supremacy among the so called elite. The way I see the wind blowing is pretty much the prevailing direction, though often gusty at times and with hints of a storm brewing...




posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 06:57 PM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

I think that TPTB don't really care about this U.S. election or any other specific elections. One of "their" greatest assets is their patience.

They don't really have to do too much to create animosity between cultures or nations or civilizations because it's part of human nature to act that way.

What TPTB want, or so some of the legends would tell us, is that they want to drastically decrease the population of us unwashed masses.

Little by little, "they" are getting their wishes. Look at almost all of the first world nations. Birth rates are dropping (for the time being, supplemented by minorities but that will change as the new first world citizens become more and more like their adoptive homes).

When the time is right and the technology sufficient, "they" will let most of the third world die off, to be replaced by machines mixed with some first worlders to operate and manage things.

If "they" are patient enough, they will get their wishes. Keep in mind, with the power (and finances) at their disposal.... what's their rush?



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 11:02 PM
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a reply to: eluryh22

I like this theory. Simply live lavishly and wait in the meantime. There is no stopping it. And the longer it takes simply means cooler toys from tech.

This is also why to ignore doom and gloom. Could 'they' initiate WW3 or some other global chaos and survive unscathed in their underground bunkers? Sure. Do they want to? Hell no. Pretty sure they enjoy fresh air, the sun and water, servants as much as any other wealthy person.
edit on 1-8-2016 by lightedhype because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 11:55 PM
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a reply to: Byrd



If that's what they are, don't you think they're awfully ineffective?

If they (who are they, anyway?) can manufacture 9/11, then why haven't they managed to go "all the way" with anything? Take guns, for instance -- if there was a group powerful enough to stage shootings and government collusion, then why don't they just pass a set of laws. No "false flags" just law-and-done.

I have heard about these operations for over 20 years, supposedly by very powerful people an organizations. During this same time period, many public agendas have been shoved down our throats.

The only thing I can figure is that they aren't very organized and aren't very powerful at all


Good points and possibly altogether true... But....

to know 911 is going to happen and do nothing before or during could be a false flag of opportunity... Hey great... lets' blame Iraq shock and awe to follow !

To know the underwear bomber is boarding a plane without a passport and even escorted to the plane to insure he boards.. Instant ramped up shake down of grand mother and tennis shoes at airport security..

Gulf of Tonkin (1964) and one of the longest wars in American history

1931 some Japanese soldiers set off a small explosion on a train track so officially China could be blamed and the invasion of Manchuria could proceed with full support of the sheeple people..

Many countries have used false flags to start wars but I figure you know that.. Germany and Russia certainly used them to help with their invasion plans of neighboring countries.

Just because some small black ops group is... small.... does not mean they are ineffective... Just that they have to pick and choose wisely less their cover gets blown.. Our little CIA and state depart have instigated removal of legitimate governments world wide.... but start at central and south America and work your way around the globe.
yournewswire.com...


Evidence continues to surface that the terror attacks in Nice and Munich were government orchestrated false flag operations by European Union governments in league with Mossad and the CIA, while the authorities waste no time clamping down on civil liberties in the wake of the events.


The problem is once caught with their hands in the cookie jar... if a cookie is missing you automatically think of them, IMO.



posted on Aug, 2 2016 @ 12:24 AM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein


The attacks are sorta coming in Trumps favor, it seems.

1- they want Trump to go to war and win

or

2- they want hillary to roll over for islam.


So, idk what they want, I know what I would want.




posted on Aug, 2 2016 @ 12:50 AM
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originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
a reply to: Byrd

Good points.
I don't know, perhaps there are two rival PTB behind the scenes?

You'd think that one of them could easily manipulate humans into taking out the other, then... so we'd have ray guns and amazingly advanced personal weapons and jet packs for assassins.


Maybe they are both controlled by ET

It'd be a lot more efficient to show up and take over. We've seen aliens in tv shows and in books for at least 200 years. So it's not a mind-blowing concept.


Could be Reptiles vs Mammals

Or even worse, Reptiles vs Mammals vs Insects, although I feel that the insects might align with the reptoids since they both mostly lay eggs.


My geckos are out to get me and the cat?



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