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Donald Trump breaks a record, and it's not a good one

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posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 08:34 PM
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It seems that that the Trump train ISNT as packed as its occupants want us to believe:



Donald Trump enjoys pushing boundaries – though he is unlikely to brag about pushing this one.

Gallup reports that Trump is more disliked than any general election candidate in the last 60 years. Even Barry Goldwater at his lowest point was not viewed as negatively as Trump is now. The polling organization’s latest survey looked not just at whether people view a candidate favorably or unfavorably, but to what extent.

LA Times

I am SURE pro-Trump supporters will claim the poll is worthless. In fact, I anticipate this. Gallup is not some MSNBC or CNN poll.



Since 1992, Gallup has primarily measured candidate favorability using a binary favorable/unfavorable choice. But Gallup does use the 10-point scale once or twice each campaign to allow for longer-term historical comparisons. The scalometer typically produces positive ratings about 10 points higher than the binary favorable scores.


I found ANOTHER interesting TIDBIT:



For instance, although Obama and McCain had nearly identical total favorable scores in 2008, Obama's highly favorable rating was significantly better: 37% for Obama vs. 28% for McCain. A similar phenomenon occurred in 1960, 1976 and 2004, when the winning candidate had an insignificant lead in overall favorability but a sizeable lead in high favorability. And in fact, in all elections but 1980, the candidate with the higher final "EQ" score won the election.

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I think because for Trump supporter makes TWICE as much noise, it only SEEMS like Trump is more popular. The numbers seem to indicate that. Even though people don't LIKE Clinton, they like Trump EVEN LESS.

It is interesting in today's internet age how just being more fanatical and posting more often can shape perception. It's clear Trump is NOT as well-liked as it may appear...





posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 08:39 PM
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a reply to: DanteGaland

He's a goose, but here's the thing, whether he is well liked or not bears little on his ability to lead.

So, the choice is a disliked Trump or a disliked Hillary but given Trump rhetoric and the medias OCD towards anything Trump, this poll does not surprise.

Not much does these dayz.



posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 08:46 PM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft

Yes, but the person most disliked DOSENT win according to Gallup historical data.

Elections are popularity contests. JUST like prom king and prom queen.
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posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 08:47 PM
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a reply to: DanteGaland

Its actually both Trump and Hillary.

Depending on the poll, one of them leads the other but its usually within a few % points.

They are the two most disliked/hated candidates in our nation's history.

I'm shocked. Heres my shocked face:



The phrase "lesser of two evils" has never been so appropriate.

Oh yah, Gary Johnson 2016.

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posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 08:47 PM
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a reply to: DanteGaland

Well, this isn't surprising considering how hard the media and even his own party are bashing him. People are stupid and they are simply adopting the narrative. If people were smart they would realize that Hilary is the true enemy.



posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 08:49 PM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft

Very true.

If I were part of any poll I would answer that I dislike Trump, but I still am considering voting for him along with Gary Johnson come November. I haven't liked any of our Presidents since Reagan so really it isn't that big a deal to vote for someone you don't like as a person.



posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 09:00 PM
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So it isnt the amount of people that dislike him its just that those who do REALLY dislike him.

Meh



posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 09:01 PM
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Yep, according to the OP's source Hillary sucks too.

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It was a record for Gallup, though Trump was not alone in besting Goldwater there. Clinton had 33% of voters giving her such low grades, which far exceeds the 26% Goldwater received at his low point in 1964.

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posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 09:02 PM
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Clinton has a laundry list of scandals and corruption that stretches for decades... but Trump said some mean things so obviously that makes him much worse.



posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 09:04 PM
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If these two are the best candidates we could come up with then I'd hate to see the others. Then again, the race for president has become about the one who has the most money to spend not who's best for our country, so maybe these two are just the consequence of such a broken and idiotic system.



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posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 09:28 PM
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This is to be expected. When was the last time you saw a tithing but a hit piece on MSM regarding Trump. Until he starts ads, you will see nothing positive about him.



posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 09:33 PM
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Yet somehow he won the primaries. And he got more primary votes than any other Republican in history.

Polls mean nothing. In all my years I was never asked to vote in these polls they keep talking about. It depends who they ask.

We are not voting for a friend to hang out with, so if you like him personally is irrelevant.
We are hiring someone to run our country.
And I think that Trump has the skills needed to fix our country.



posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 09:37 PM
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Apparently New Jersey likes him because every other house on Sandy Hook and Middle Town has one I swear.



posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 09:42 PM
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The notion of voting for the lesser of two evils never made any sense to me.
I'm pretty sure I'll be voting Johnson, "my" party's candidate.
*sigh*
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posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 09:42 PM
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a reply to: BlueAjah



Polls mean nothing.


Except for the ones where Trump wins, like the primaries. Right?



posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 09:47 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

The primaries was not a poll. It was registered voters voting.
Do you really not understand the difference when compared to a sampling poll, where not everyone has a say who wants a say?



posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 10:03 PM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

It most definitely was a poll, but I'm not going to argue your point.

All I know is that every president has won their election (obviously) and America has been going down the toilet for decades now. The most popular obviously has no bearing on their ability to lead or fix the country.

I see Trump as just another brick in the proverbial wall. He talks a good talk (well, to his supporters at least) but so has every other president that came before him.



posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 10:05 PM
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Lower than Nixon after Watergate, lower than Carter after Eagle Claw, lower than Bush 43 post Operation O-I-L, lower than Obama pre-Neptune Spear....COME ON!

Notice how Reagan didn't have low-points, but people "hated" him. The current generation of professional haters are cast of the same ilk, and hate Trump. I'd ask them, what did Trump ever do to you? I guess someone could ask the same about Hitler, except he did kill my uncle. People hated him too....Hitler, not my uncle. But not everyone hated him, or National Socialism, nor Obama.

My point is, keep typing until Hillary is indicted. Ntrly, the point is that Trump reminds me of Regan. Peace out, Seacrest!



posted on Jul, 4 2016 @ 10:06 PM
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originally posted by: BlueAjah
Yet somehow he won the primaries. And he got more primary votes than any other Republican in history.

Polls mean nothing. In all my years I was never asked to vote in these polls they keep talking about. It depends who they ask.

We are not voting for a friend to hang out with, so if you like him personally is irrelevant.
We are hiring someone to run our country.
And I think that Trump has the skills needed to fix our country.


He won among registered REPUBLICAN voters. Not ALL voters. Registered Republicans do NOT make up even 50% of the American population. There are MANY nonaffiliated voters AND Democrats.

People ALWAYS forget that.




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