If Britain leaves the EU, an asteroid will strike London and their toilets will be confiscated.

Forget toilets, Bans on kettles are in the works. Brits with no Tea....oh my!

fullfact.org...

originally posted by: lakenheath24
Forget toilets, Bans on kettles are in the works. Brits with no Tea....oh my!

fullfact.org...

Did you read the actual link? Aside from the scaremongering "EU wants our kettles", it's about safety, environmentally friendly, and durable so they stand more chance of being usable medium - long term. Is there anything about any of those you think is actually a bad thing?

a reply to: uncommitted

The OP is sarcasm, I wrote this as sarcasm. You might want to rent a comedy or watch some porn and relieve your stress.

originally posted by: lakenheath24
a reply to: uncommitted

The OP is sarcasm, I wrote this as sarcasm. You might want to rent a comedy or watch some porn and relieve your stress.

But the headlines quoted in the link aren't intended to be sarcastic, that was my point - merely Brexit project fear.

Who still rents these days?

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: gladtobehere

from the quoted article

"Best to stay in the EU," said Governor Mark Carney. "We failed to predict the 2007/8 crash, the greatest economic downturn in modern history. But we have a great track record when it comes to wind and piss. Trust us."

Who is Mark Carney? Well, well well - this explains it. A BANKSTER!

from Wiki
Mark Carney Economist Mark Joseph Carney, OC is an Irish-Canadian economist who currently serves as Governor of the Bank of England and Chairman of the G20's Financial Stability Board

He's the governor of the bank of England, are you saying he isn't allowed to give his own opinion balanced by the level of risk he sees?

Are you somehow missing the point? You know the quote "We failed to predict the 2007/8 crash, the greatest economic downturn in modern history. But we have a great track record when it comes to wind and piss. Trust us." is satirical from a brexit column looking to pour any cold water on anyone with any kind of measured comment because, well............ not a lot of people anywhere are currently giving a measured reason to leave?

Anyone from either camp who can quote actual balanced quotes not taken from a satirical piece, feel free to join in.

Or maybe the banks are concern about how much they and there bonuses are worth if housing became affordable to ordinary mortal citizens. We're now in the situation where property speculators are building massive high-rise apartments blocks that are being built simply as investments for international buyers who don't even live in them. And at the same time working class and middle class Britain can't afford to live locally to work (assuming they want to live somewhere safe).

originally posted by: xuenchen
Here I thought the desperate propaganda was unique to the U.S.

Ho ho ho...Hee hee..heee...heh heh.

That ticled me, it really did...and sorry, but LOL just wasn't going to do it justice.

ha ha ha...tickled i am.

I thought a guy named 'Crapper' produced the first flushing toilet, in England? hence the sentence " going for a crap".

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: lakenheath24
Forget toilets, Bans on kettles are in the works. Brits with no Tea....oh my!

fullfact.org...

Did you read the actual link? Aside from the scaremongering "EU wants our kettles", it's about safety, environmentally friendly, and durable so they stand more chance of being usable medium - long term. Is there anything about any of those you think is actually a bad thing?

8ve got a 4 yr old stainless steel 3kW kettle. Never missed a beat. If you buy a good brand and don't opt for a 2 quid tesco one you can have longevity as well as performance. (Though I now use a hob top one as my induction hob boils water even faster).

This was just something that didn't need a law...A perfect example of what happens when you can't elect the law makers.

a reply to: uncommitted

I somehow feel that you wouldnt understand sarcasm, or indeed humor, if it slapped you upside the head. Ergo, my use of the word rent was a dig at your....nevermind. Probably be wasted on you anyway.

originally posted by: pikestaff
I thought a guy named 'Crapper' produced the first flushing toilet, in England? hence the sentence " going for a crap".

That's true, but we're talking about those stand up and piss ceramic things called 'Urinals''...The story is of course satire, to highlight the 'everything negative, that can possibly happen will do' retorhic coming out of the lying mouths at Number 10 Downing St.

Bring back the stainless steel troughs to piss in...we don't want any of the EU ceramic Urinal rubbish anyway.

Ooh, conspiracy alert, maybe thats why councils are not supplying public toilets now! They know!

www.bbc.co.uk...

Disclaimer- The article referenced is not necessarily humorous, but was used in conjunction with my response, to achieve a sarcastic, or hopefully funny, response to the OP's thread.

If you vote to stay, you could be like the French and just piss wherever you feel like.

a reply to: lakenheath24

Since it's still lawful to piss up against one's cart's wheel (law from the 16th century, applying to people in carriages and carts who get caught short) we can lawfully get out of our cars, in the middle of the high street and take a piss up against it.

WHo needs EU urinals?

(Not sure if leaving the EU will affect this law if you happen to drive a Fiat, Renault or Audi...but it's still on the books here in the UK!)

a reply to: MysterX

That there is funny. Having said that, my brit wife and I have a holiday place in France, and when we go over we cant help but notice the utter and complete absence of british trucks...er lorries. Yet when we hit Calais to Dover, 95% of trucks up the M20 are anything BUT British. French stores dont carry anything but French stuff, even supermrkets have a tiny UK section, which is massively overpriced. I just dont see why the UK stays.

a reply to: lakenheath24

I know mate, i use the M20 regularly living right nearby it.

And i agree that the VAST majority of traffic is coming FROM the continent to the UK, and the flow backwards from our industry and companies is minor in comparison to the goods coming in.

And Cameron would have us actually believe that this huge influx of EU countries piling their goods into the UK as fast as they can shove them through the tunnel is suddenly going to dry up?

Yeah, right. All those 1000's of companies and corporations, making billions from UK customers are going to simply fold their arms, get the hump and not sell those billions worth of goods to the UK when we leave?

Can anyone really imagine how that inofrmation would go down at the EU companies shareholder meeting?

Soory folks...your dividends are suspended, and the share price is now worth a fraction of what it was last week, because those Brits don't want to be in our gang any more?

NOT A CHANCE.

a reply to: MysterX

Aww man, Operation Stack is all i gotta say! Biz is biz, it's only care is making money, so I dont think they care WHO is in charge politically as pols are all paid off anyway. I just cant see any reason for you guys to stay, I mean Brussels is a terrorist haven and doesnt share intel. And THAT is your defacto capital? I cant believe the Germans hold on to that nonsense. I thought those dudes have more sense than that....even IF they steal all the best seats at the pool.
And as far as defense, you have NATO....what need do you have for a defense...unless its to defend itself from revolt by the masses! God knows Italy and Potugal aint worth a damn in a fight! ( Have I missed any EU countries to offend? LOL)

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: gladtobehere

from the quoted article

"Best to stay in the EU," said Governor Mark Carney. "We failed to predict the 2007/8 crash, the greatest economic downturn in modern history. But we have a great track record when it comes to wind and piss. Trust us."

Who is Mark Carney? Well, well well - this explains it. A BANKSTER!

from Wiki
Mark Carney Economist Mark Joseph Carney, OC is an Irish-Canadian economist who currently serves as Governor of the Bank of England and Chairman of the G20's Financial Stability Board

He's the governor of the bank of England, are you saying he isn't allowed to give his own opinion balanced by the level of risk he sees?

Are you somehow missing the point? You know the quote "We failed to predict the 2007/8 crash, the greatest economic downturn in modern history. But we have a great track record when it comes to wind and piss. Trust us." is satirical from a brexit column looking to pour any cold water on anyone with any kind of measured comment because, well............ not a lot of people anywhere are currently giving a measured reason to leave?

Anyone from either camp who can quote actual balanced quotes not taken from a satirical piece, feel free to join in.

Was he giving his own opinion or was he fed the lines by the remain camp?

There have been some crazy facts and figures being bandied about by both sides and for almost two weeks we were being told how worse off we would be economically, by exiting. Then immigration figures come out and the remain camp had no answer for that, except to claim anyone who refers to the immigration question must be a racist.

I am just surprised people are willing to remain within a union that is undemocratic. None of the law makers (Commissioners) are elected or accountable. That's where the real problem lies for me.

Of course, the Brexit people will say anyone and any thing that suggests risks associated with leaving the EU is either plain wrong, lying for their own agenda or is in the pocket of the remain camp. Sorry, but that's how it is, and that's not my problem, it's what led to the title of this OP - say anything remotely against leaving and you are spreading fear. There is a reason for that IMHO, it's because the main Brexit leaders can't give a reasoned argument against the comments.

With immigration (from people within the EU), I don't think it's quite straightforward to say that anyone who speaks about it either is or isn't racist. The New Labour and Newer (but really 70's/80's rebooted) Labour strove to make immigration a dirty word which didn't help and made discussion difficult, but that can't hide the fact that there is an undercurrent of racism with some people. I'm not going to dwell too much on that because I know how easy a target that will make me in any thread about this referendum and it's just not worth being trolled.

Yes there is a risk to our economy by leaving, but there is also a risk by staying. The Euro is struggling because of the combined debt of countries that invested with banks throughout Europe that collapsed or were Nationalised. Remember, Iceland, although held in high regards by some; by electing not to pay their debts, have contributed to the misery. Although, not exclusively.

originally posted by: lakenheath24
a reply to: uncommitted

I somehow feel that you wouldnt understand sarcasm, or indeed humor, if it slapped you upside the head. Ergo, my use of the word rent was a dig at your....nevermind. Probably be wasted on you anyway.

Ermmm, no. Sarcasm is usually actually funny, without that it's someone talking sh!te. Condescension you appear to try and attempt, keep it up, you'll get there.

a reply to: uncommitted

Ermmm, you mean condescending as in someone accusing someone of not reading the article one posted?

originally posted by: lakenheath24
a reply to: uncommitted

Ermmm, you mean condescending as in someone accusing someone of not reading the article one posted?

Not really, not fully reading a linked article before posting it, or deliberately twisting its context is hardly unknown on this site or lots of others.

originally posted by: stormcell

Or maybe the banks are concern about how much they and there bonuses are worth if housing became affordable to ordinary mortal citizens. We're now in the situation where property speculators are building massive high-rise apartments blocks that are being built simply as investments for international buyers who don't even live in them. And at the same time working class and middle class Britain can't afford to live locally to work (assuming they want to live somewhere safe).

You're right that property speculators are driving property prices up in an insanely dangerous way. However, you must bear in mind a few things.

First, these property speculators are, on the whole, from outside the EU - Russian, Chinese, Kazakh, Saudi etc. Leaving the EU won't make a shred of difference. Same as all those people who come in on rafts and on the backs of lorries.

Second, they buy here because Cameron, Osborne and, in London, Boris Johnson have made it easy for them. When Cameron "proposed" controls on money laundering a few weeks back, various trade bodies said the controls would impede growth in the housing market.

Third, if we voted out in June, investors will react like they always do in times of uncertainty: out of equities and into gilts and property. Same supply + greater demand = higher prices.

Fourth, if we left the EU, how are we reduce demand by getting people to leave? Let's not even bother with a science fiction scenario where we force all foreign nationals register prior to rounding them and kicking them out. Let's stick to normal, legal process. You're going to need a government that wants to do it and wants to give itself the powers to do it. It will publish a Green Paper for discussion with business and other interested parties, like the Treasury who will have to fund them. It will then publish a White Paper with firm proposals, again negotiable with people who already have their foot in the door of no. 10. Then it has to go through all the various parliamentary committees, debates, backwards and forwards, compromise after compromise. Assuming that the opposition doesn't put a monster fight, you are still looking at years rather than months. Then it needs to be implemented.

All that's assuming the government will make it a priority...and why would a Tory, or even a Blairite Labour, government cut off the supply of cheap labour? Much higher on the list of priorities will be slashing benefits, pensions and employment rights, all of which are protected by EU legislation. So, property prices will keep going up and average incomes will come down.


The only two things which will force property prices down is a massive market collapse (heaven help us all then!) or strong government intervention, which hasn't been on the cards for over forty years.

Boris isn't going to do it. He's always put the bankers and super rich before the man in the street. Cameron isn't going to do it. He peed away thirty years of British leverage in Europe in one meeting at the end of 2010 because he wanted to show the banks he would fight to the bitter end for them - and lost. Who's left?

EDIT: Oh, and remember that legislation the government passed to make foreigners register? What government would pass up the chance to register the biometric data of its entire population? For our own good, you understand.