Federal judge rules Obamacare is being funded unconstitutionally

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: syrinx high priest

I'm no fan of Obamacare, but nothing will come of this. It's just political pandering.

The ACA was political pandering.

People had access to health care to begin with.

Between medicare,medicaid,and TRICARE. The US government is the largest health insurer in the country.

Paid for by 'we the people'.

Then there was that LAW way back under the Reagan Administration called the EMTALA.

It requires hospital Emergency Departments that accept payments from Medicare to provide an appropriate medical screening examination (MSE) to individuals seeking treatment for a medical condition, regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay.

en.wikipedia.org...

The ACA was created on LIES.

People ALREADY had access in numerous ways. Both private, and public.

The ACA should not exist.

a reply to: kaylaluv

You want nationalized healthcare?

Have you ever received medical attention in a country with nationalized healthcare?

I have. Twas a nightmare.

We need to go the Trump route, do away with the artificial lines and open up nation wide competition.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
Let me guess, it's a conservative right-leaning judge.

Collyer, an appointee of President George W. Bush

Yep.

Let me also guess, this will probably go nowhere.

The judge's ruling, while a setback for the administration, was put on hold immediately and stands a good chance of being overturned on appeal.

Yep.

Yeah...but right leaning judges tend to follow the rule of law. Left leaning judges make up crap as they see fit, ignoring the law, the Constitution and the will over 50% of the people.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

and if this reaches the supreme court with it's 4-4 we can't get a decision votes, they will probably just do what they did with the little sisters' case and send it back down to the lower court telling them to find a compromise...
unless they get fed up with trying to work with their handicap and just decides they've handled enough obamacare cases and just orders them to scrap the whole thing and start from scratch.

Walls Closing In On Obamacare Lawlessness

The Obama Administration is unlawfully diverting billions of dollars from taxpayers to insurance companies that sell Obamacare policies.

That is the conclusion reached in a legal opinion letter released today by former Ambassador and White House Counsel Boyden Gray.

Mr. Gray’s letter reinforces the conclusion of legal experts at the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service who found that the administration’s actions “would appear to be in conflict with the plain text” of the Obamacare statute.

Mr. Gray’s letter documents how the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services is diverting $3.5 billion that it was legally obliged to remit to the Treasury and instead providing it to sponsors of Obamacare policies to compensate them for medical expenses of high-cost policyholders.

This unlawful diversion is occurring through the Transitional Reinsurance Program (TRP), established to smooth out losses for insurance companies selling Obamacare policies in the individual market. The TRP compensates these insurers for the costs of large medical claims incurred by their customers. CMS picked up the entire cost of medical claims between $45,000 and $250,000 for individuals enrolled in Obamacare individual policies in 2014, relieving insurers of the burden of paying these high medical bills.

The money for the TRP comes from an annual assessment on all individual and group insurance policy holders—primarily people with employer-based coverage—of $63 in 2014, $44 in 2015 and $27 in 2016. In addition to financing the TRP program, the Affordable Care Act (ACA) requires CMS to remit $5 billion of these collections to Treasury.

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I dont think Obamas legacy is going to be all that good.

a reply to: Slanter


You do realize it's also unconstitutional because all spending bills have to originate in the house. The house came up with their version of Obama care and it was voted down. The senate came up with a version and it was the one that was eventually approved. Since Obama care didn't start in the house it's technically unconstitutional. Supreme Court judge Roberts also labled it a tax which would also make it unconstitutional but then again since when does Washington follow the constitution.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: syrinx high priest

I'm no fan of Obamacare, but nothing will come of this. It's just political pandering.

Regardless whether any change will be made, it is always important to state your position on a topic and if you feel or know the topic is illegal...denounce it. Kinda like many people today say "but all politicians lie". That doesn't make it acceptable and they should be called out.

a reply to: xuenchen


In a stunning development, the Internal Revenue Service agrees with the judge. Today, the IRS executive in charge at the time of ObamaCare's implementation, told Congress that he felt the Subsidy Payments to health insurance companies were being sent to them illegally, and that he voiced his concern to the Obama administration. But the White House sent him a memo saying, "Don't worry... The payments are authorized". That's was an outright (and bold) lie! A lie which in and of itself, makes someone at the White House subject to criminal prosecution.

Source: www.investors.com...

I bet a whole lot of people at the top of Obama's administration are eager to get out of there ASAP, because they hear sirens approaching in the distance.
-cwm