Bernie Sanders’ Real ‘Political Revolution’ Could Happen This Fall

Bernie Sanders’ Real ‘Political Revolution’ Could Happen This Fall: Sanders, Green Party’s Presidential Candidate?

With the DNC playing favorites to the HRC, it is no surprise many of us that support Sen Sanders have been disgusted wit the Dem party. We feel the Dem party is a bunch of corrupt corporate politicians, that are no longer interested in representing "we the people," but rather have an interest in building their personal fortunes through doing the bidding of the one percent.

We can see that Sanders endorsing Hilley would be going against everything his campaign has stood for, so where does Sanders and his supporters go now?

Dave Lindorff at Global Research has this to say about Sen Sanders options:

after spending months hammering home the reality that Clinton is the bought-and-paid candidate of the the banks, the arms industry, the oil industry and the medical-industrial complex, and after enduring endless lies about his own record spouted by Clinton and her surrogates, go ahead and endorse her as the party’s standard bearer for the general election? Does he walk away and return quietly to Vermont? Or does he instead continue to fight for his “political revolution” by another route?

The first and even the second option would mean the demise of his so-called “political revolution.” A Sanders endorsement of Clinton at this point would be a pathetic betrayal of all the energy and money that his fired-up backers have poured into this extraordinary campaign, and it would send a message that fighting against the nation’s ruling elite is impossible, at least through the ballot box. It would also be pointless. Some 25-30 percent of Sanders backers, according to pollsters, have made it clear that they will not support Clinton no matter what — including if Sanders were to endorse her. That in itself could be enough to doom her candidacy. Furthermore, after all his well-grounded attacks on the corrupt funding of her campaign, and of her horrific record as senator and secretary of state, any endorsement he made would be seen as a joke. He would spend the next three and a half months of the general election running from reporters asking him if he “takes back” the things he had said about her earlier — her crooked speech fees from Goldman Sachs and other big banks, her default advocacy of disastrous wars in Iraq, Libya, Syria and elsewhere, etc. Most seriously, endorsing Hillary after all that earnest, heartfelt campaigning, would be a huge blow to his millions of backers and his “movement.”

Just shutting up and going home, with no endorsement for Clinton, would be almost as bad, leaving his movement leaderless and thoroughly demoralized, and he’d still be besieged by journalists seeking to have him either diss or endorse Clinton.

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Posted here by accident, but must say that you are right, it'd be pathetic. But then, what else could one expect from the system/ dnc control wh??s.??





Oh yeah, and I would think that one would have the right to resist all of the "journalistic attempts" to guide the discourse, but it still doesn't mean the media won't bury it all in Hillary coverage!

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Really your living in coo coo land.

Sanders is finished.

a reply to: AlaskanDad

I think this is a long shot, but I truly Hope Sanders does run as a Third Party. That would have the added effect of allowing someone from the right to run third party as well, without fear of guaranteeing a Clinton Presidency.

A great four way race is my current little fantasy:

Sanders VS Trump VS Dem Establishment(Clinton) VS Rep Establishment(Can Bush come back?)

a reply to: AlaskanDad

sanders voted along the side of dems 93% of the time.

The other 7%?

It didn't matter because his vote wouldn't have made any difference.

Im not a Bernie supporter, but I am just as disgusted with Hillary's win even though the majority are supporting Bernie. It isnt right. I hope the anger will be focused where it belongs, back on the political parties. And not turn on people who have nothing to do with his loss.

Trump supporters are going to face the same anger when Hillary becomes president even though Trump wins the popular vote. If the fed up Bernie and Trump voters join forces against our Govt it could be really bad for the Olagarcy.

The Executive Order Obama signed to call Martial Law even in peace times might come in real handy this fall.

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Not the first time I heard this, but it's going to take more than a couple of pundits to suggest it. We'll have to let it play out and see if Sanders accepts the idea. IF the GOP nevertrumpers do the same thing, it could prompt Sanders to make a bid that way knowing the GOP would be diluted. If they do not, I think it is less likely. In all likelihood, a multi-party (3+) run would throw the election into the House because no one would achieve 270. So the House would make the choice amongst themselves. Wow. Just wow.

originally posted by: crazyewok
Really your living in coo coo land.

Sanders is finished.

Maybe so...


...maybe not!

#NeverHillary

Then there is this:

Clinton to be interrogated by FBI over email scandal, possibly before California primary - RT

FBI investigators will interrogate Hillary Clinton in the coming weeks over her use of a private email server for state communications, according to officials cited by CNN late Thursday.

Multiple aides to the Democratic presidential hopeful have been probed by the FBI in recent weeks including longtime adviser Huma Abedin, who is married to disgraced former Congressman Anthony Weiner.

The Department of Justice found a turncoat in Bryan Pagliano, the IT specialist who built the server allegedly “off the books," granting him immunity in exchange for his testimony.

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But then again, you're rooting for Trump. aren't you?

I don't agree with Bernie, but I do think he will keep his word, here. He is and has been a Democrat, even if he always called himself an Independent.

Sanders, an independent in the U.S. Senate who is seeking the 2016 presidency on the Democratic ticket, explained in a Q&A session with the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce that he feels a responsibility to stick to the two-party system in the presidential contest. 

“If it happens that I do not win that process, would I run outside of the system?” Sanders said in the interview broadcast by C-SPAN. “No, I made the promise that I would not and I will keep that promise. And the reason for that is I do not want to be responsible for electing some right-wing Republican to be president of the United States.”

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Bernie will never run 3rd party. He may think he is anti-establishment, but he is being used and his supporters too. He is just the back up in case Hillary goes south with this investigation. DNC has been covering their base.

Hillary will make Jeb her VP. The media will spin it, bipartisan leadership for the good of America vs Evil Trump. in reality it will be the establishment vs the people

a reply to: thinline

A Clinton/Bush ticket.

Diabolical. Evil.

And it just might work. Royalty used to marry off each side of warring families to keep the peace and maintain control.

a reply to: CynConcepts

You could be right,

but then you could be wrong!

Could Sanders run as a Green? Some of his supporters are already talking about the idea. So, it turns out, are members of the Green Party. Apparently even Dr. Jill Stein, a past presidential candidate of the Green Party and its likely candidate this year, as well as Kshama Sawant, the hugely popular socialist city councilwoman in Seattle who led that city’s activists’ successful fight to pass a $15/hour wage law, are writing a letter to Sanders inviting him — urging him — to enter into discussions with the Green Party about running as its presidential candidate. Stein is apparently even willing to step aside or perhaps run as his vice presidential running mate if he were to do so. (Sawant has made an excellent argument [1] for why Sanders and the Greens should do this. She also has a petition on line for people to join in the call. It already has over 17,000 signatures.) [2]

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: thinline

A Clinton/Bush ticket.

Diabolical. Evil.

And it just might work. Royalty used to marry off each side of warring families to keep the peace and maintain control.

Probably the first time we're in agreement.

a reply to: CynConcepts


That's what I figured. If it seems like I'm not up on things, it's because I've tuned it out for being hopelessly rigged. I don't think I see one politician in this mess that's just a simple choice. I'd like to say Trump, but I'm not sure. This is pretty sorry because politicians even if divided are supposed to allow people to voice their standpoints through a vote. You are not supposed to misrepresent your votership.

originally posted by: CynConcepts

Bernie will never run 3rd party. He may think he is anti-establishment, but he is being used and his supporters too. He is just the back up in case Hillary goes south with this investigation. DNC has been covering their base.

The thing is, he laid out the circumstances where he would not make a third party run, but what if those circumstances changed? If the nevertrumpers do a third party run, then that would mean Bernie's worry that a third party on the Dem side would mean an automatic "right wing" (to him) victory would NOT be assured. His reasoning would be "null and void." So I could see him saying,

"I said I wouldn't, but the context of my statements has changed and my supporters are so good that I see a clear chance of winning this thing, therefore....."

a reply to: AlaskanDad

Hypothetically speaking, how would you feel about Sanders being Trump's running mate?

I know it's a long shot... at least according to conventional wisdom. But it seems to me that since there is absolutely nothing conventional yet about this election, it could happen. If Trump is truly the outsider, and if he really wants to shake things up (and maybe poke the establishment in the eye), choosing Bernie as his running mate would be the way to go. And I think it would be a winner, combining not only his and Bernie's supporters, but attracting third-party and indy voters as well. I might even vote for that ticket, just to break the stranglehold the party elites hold.

(Haha! Ted Nugent's "Stranglehold" just started playing on the radio!)

And one more question if I may? Would you consider voting for Gary Johnson (Libertarian) at all? I'm assuming that Jill Stein of the Green Party would probably be more to your liking, and therefore preference; but if it looked like Johnson had any chance at all (and Stein did not), would Johnson be an option for you? Although I prefer Johnson, I could vote for Stein easily if it meant breaking that stranglehold.

I'm just kinda thinking of different possibilities and wondering how they might play out with different voters. I hope you don't mind me asking. I'm not trying to derail your thread and apologize if that's the result.

He should run third party just as cruz should run third party.

a reply to: AlaskanDad

This political revolution as of now is a fantasy.

The vast majority of the American people just don’t support it
The doctrinaire progressives are just as delusional as the doctrinaire conservatives.

Both sides have to realize they just don’t have the vast majority of the people behind them.

If they did they would have their revolution

But as it stands now the left could hardly even get national health insurance without loosing the congress to crazy republicans

So the idea of Bernie that he has some kind of ‘revolution” is a fantasy

a reply to: Boadicea

I would not say it would bother me, it would be no worse than, Sen Sanders endorsing the HRC machine.




Either way I would happily vote for Dr Jill Stein, no bother.

So did Sanders just not register for the general election in most states?