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Of course people should do this. At the same time, trying to force them to is another matter entirely. Also, what is abusive to one mind may not be to another. Words don't interest me that much, but actions, that's different. Should we guard our words? YES Can we police the words of others? NOPE.
I have plenty to say. I just don't think you want to hear it.
You're on a mission - I can see that. Funny - you have plenty to say - with words that aren't important - to people who have opinions that don't matter to you
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a reply to: SisterDelirium
As has been effectively argued for hundreds of years, freedom of speech is the basis of a free society. It is found in nearly every constitution of every democratic society, and every declaration of human rights for very good reasons.
I'm not afraid of the internet Les. Not the same way you are
And I'm not afraid of direct confrontation - I won't hide behind a meme
When you want to have a genuine conversation - you let me know. Until then - you're just here to sell a bill of goods as far as I'm concerned
It's made from pure truthiness though - and it's selling like hotcakes. Gotta give you credit for that
Freedom of speech - give me a break
No, freedom of speech is NOT the basis of a free society. No matter in how many constitutions it is written. The basis of a free society is the freedom from supression, corruption, disguised slavery, plain and downright robbery of tax money by the representatives of a capitalistic economical system, who pretend and propage that capitalism is a free market economy, which still needs to be proven as being the case.
Free speech does not exist in a capitalistic economy BECAUSE the biggest public media, universities, and companies are runned, ruled and owned by those who have very little interest in free speech other than merely talking about it.
And you and me, LesMis, we both know that. Do we?
I've tried to have genuine conversations with you many times since you seem to lap up these hotcakes i'm selling, but a species of fingers-in-ears playground politics is all I get in return. In other words, no I don't want to have a genuine conversation with you, because I already know what that entails.
How do you feel about boycotts?
Is President Obama a secret Muslim?
If people criticize little Don Don - is that the same thing as interfering with his freedom of speech?
If people are free to say racist things - are other people free to criticize that?
I feel fine about boycotts.
I always thought Obama was an admitted Christian. Has something happened that I am unaware of?
Not at all.
People are free to criticize whatever they want.
Sadly, we get this superstitious and emotionally-based treatment of words and speech, which turns into a specious excuse to act maliciously or even violently to those that speak it. It's hate disguised as love, and narcissism disguised as compassion.
Is President Obama a secret Muslim?
So, when the twitterverse goes mad and decides they don't like something that's happened, whatever that might be - is it wrong to express that en masse? If they're outraged enough that they call for someone to be fired - is that wrong? I'm not saying it's not nasty - but should we prevent this kind of behavior? If so - how? How is it different from a boycott?
If what you say is true, and words don't mean anything or have any power over us - if we should just ignore them and not let words affect our decisions or our feelings - then what's the problem here? If a company decides to fire somebody - is that the choice of the company or the crowd? Where does the responsibility lie?
An entire movement was dedicated to this - and all kinds of nasty accusations about him being a liar, a fraud, not a citizen ...a terrorist sympathizer. Is this slander? I know how you feel about slander, even though believing that words have power is nothing but superstition. For some reason you have spoken out against other people slandering Trump. I find your arguments to be fairly inconsistent - especially since Trump pretty much spearheaded this whole attack on Obama's character
Is it only slander when it comes from the left?
Says you. Are you too superstitious to take your own advice?
For what it's worth - I agree with you about shirtgate - and Carlin is a favorite of mine. But the far right has been banging this anti-PC drum very loudly for a few years now, and the entire thing is so hypocritical I can't believe you actually support it
Words are everything - actions and thoughts encapsulated Though there are those that would argue otherwise Without words - we have no subject - and nothing to discuss it with :-) Force is different from coercion - but coercion often depends on words. What we're being asked to do now is turn our backs on our philosophies by people that mean to decide for everyone which words are OK - and which kind of thinking is OK You're right - we all see every bit of that differently Did you think this came only from the left - or the right? It's an actual battle now All too often I see people defending things they don't actually believe because it's not fashionable to call it out anymore. So - free speech?
It’s not wrong to express one’s opinion nor should one fear expressing her opinion, but once it goes beyond expression into accusation and coercion without any sort of due process, we’re speaking about oppression.
It must be exhausting trying to remain so partisan.
I’m not sure I’ve said anything about Obama. I only started commenting on political matters on this website in the fall of last year. Apologies for that.
I’ve never given advice. I enjoy leaving a little to interpretation, but such a misrepresentation of my views has me wondering if I should write about less complicated things.
The truth doesn’t belong to one party or the other or one side of the political spectrum, and frankly I find that sort of tribalism to be a hinderance to civil society. There are actually studies that have proven the partisan brain will avoid scientific evidence if it conflicts with ideological persuasion.
Does the company really have cause to fire you for what you do in your off time--however odious it may be? If I were the boss, I wouldn't fire Bob. I'd privately think Bob was, perhaps, not the nicest person in the world, but I'd base my hiring/firing on the performance of the task/behavior while at work.
As for coercion by people who want us to have "right" thinking, yes, there's plenty of that. There's a lot of "shouting down" by the frenzied, irrational mob. As someone who identifies as a Christian and will not adopt atheistic views or "embrace" LGBTQ ideals (not the same as treating people civilly, I might add), I'm certainly living it as a daily reality. And, I've been black-balled from certain arts communities for being a Christian. I was literally warned by another artist to not let X person catch on to my religious affiliation, or else.
What this illustrates that EVERY word is now political and EVERY action, however small, is to be approved or disapproved by the mob.
It's crazy. It's the madness that's infected us as a society.
They're only words. Is it offensive speech? What power does it have over us? Enough power to force a company to fire someone? Again I ask - where does the responsibility lie - with the unruly mob - or the company that fires a person because of that mob?
Can we oppress - with only words?
You assume so much? You should go back and read all my posts Les - and not just my replies you
Pretty sure Obama was still president then. It's not really about Obama - or Trump. They're only metaphors. Polarization is the name of the game - I always find it interesting when people choose to play just the one note. It's just a fascinating game of call and response here on the internet lately. No matter how many times I ask, I don't get an answer to my question. The non answer is answer enough though
Too funny Les
You know who actually is funny? George Carlin
People love him for a reason. Integrity is a big part of that. He goes after everyone. We could all learn a little bit from that I think