Democratic superdelegates face pressure to support Bernie Sanders

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: amicktd

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: amicktd

Oh, I am sorry Congress' record with spending is not proof enough that they might actually LOVE Bernie's $18 trillion spending plan.

Of course you should stick your head in the sand until 'The Establishment' says on the TeeVee that they like a candidate with a HUGE spending plan and proposing a HUGE tax hike because that just gives our corrupt federal government more power.

It's logical to think they would definitely not LOVE Bernie. Cause he says he is anti-Establishment and all.

The Establishment is DEFINITELY letting you in on 'it.'

*wink*

How about you don't know what I support with Bernie and know his socialism policies won't pass. Just look at Congress right now and see what gets passed. I think you are sticking your head in the sand thinking Bernie will waltz in and pass $18 Trillion spending bill. But hey, I'm just an idiot right?

Oh, sure, the two parties will definitely put on a show to pretend there is this divide, and they won't agree, and we will get saddled with awful legislation that does nothing to help Americans and just puts more money into the wealthy's hands. That's the scam they always run.

It's about POTENTIAL. And The Establishment has the potential to steal the most money from taxpayers and have the most influence through a big federal government under a Bernie Sanders administration.

It's pretty obvious Hillary is the Establishment candidate. They will do whatever they want with her in office, because they pay her. I'm starting to think your a Hillary supporter since we're jumping to conclusions or maybe a closet Trump supporter who knows.

Is it?

I find it amazing that of all times to have an email scandal and investigation take place, it is now...during her Establishment-supported presidential campaign.

That's not just unfortunate for her, it's FORTUNATE for Bernie.

I don't think it's obvious Hillary is the Establishment's choice, at all.

And given how she kept her name on the Michigan ballot, in 2008, while Obama removed his -- resulting in the DNC GIFTING him with 600,000 votes cast for Hillary -- I'd say she was a political operative that dragged Obama across the finish line in 2008.

After all, she won the popular vote. She dragged his butt across the finish line then rolled over and got on board the Obama-train and threw her full support behind a party that disenfranchised 600,000 of her supporters.

She's a POS political operative, IMO. Nothing more. The evidence says I have a pretty strong argument.

originally posted by: amicktd
I'm starting to think your a Hillary supporter since we're jumping to conclusions or maybe a closet Trump supporter who knows.

FYI: I don't support anyone. I can never support anyone running for either corrupt party. I won't cast a vote for a republican or a democrat.

And there's no way I would ever vote for Hillary or Trump.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I could be persuaded to vote Libertarian.

I am definitely socially liberal and fiscally conservative (but only because I don't trust Congress to spend money).

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Then vote for Gary because polling indicates he could get up to 11% of the vote but as long as he gets 5% the 2 party system can come to an end. We might get stuck with Clinton, or worse Trump, but at least we will have that victory and a path for 2020!

Jesus...2020! Where is time going!?

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Then vote for Gary...

Ok.

ETA: Ha! I was actually leaning that way before your comment. I will probably vote for him just out of protest for the two-party system alone.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

My work here is done.

a reply to: Swills

lol

originally posted by: ketsuko
Of the three outsider candidates, which one draws the most flack? It would actually be Trump...

Ah, but Trump's image is that of a party outsider and a candidate that the media wants to destroy. It's been a very successful image for him, too. (With GOP voters, that is.)

So, considering this, the media and Establishment are actually supporting Trump's favored marketed image. They are helping him. On the surface, yes, Trump gets the most flack. But at the same time, he is marketing himself as the candidate that gets the most flack, too. Truth be told, it's Trump supporters who are really suffering from the media's portrayal of him -- not Trump, himself.

Anyway, I'm not convinced that the media and parties are doing anything except helping Trump in the ways he prefers.

(And all of this will help democrats win ultimately. But, then, Trump does have a significant history as a democrat and is long-time friends with the Clintons.)

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Trump has earned more free media coverage than any of the other candidates and all of them combined, like in the billions worth. The media loves Trump because he gives them ratings. They're making money hand over fist. At work I have CNN running the background all day and all day they covered Trumps campaign manager being charged. All day, and all day their ticker said it was breaking news.

if trump and sanders aren`t the nominees I have a feeling there is going to be a very low voter turnout in the general election. it won`t be so easy to for TPTB to shoehorn their chosen one into the whitehouse,there may even be some serious civil disobedience.

The Super Delegates support whomever is in the lead. The problem for Sanders is Clinton has big leads in California and New York and Pen. that almost gets her to magic number alone without super delegates. I do not see a path for Sanders to get the numbers needed even if all the Super Delegates backed him. It would take something crazy. For the DNC Clinton and Sanders crush Trump, beat Cruz be a good margin and would likely both beat anybody a brokered convention puts up although that could be competitive. This could have been a bad year for the DNC but, Trump dominating the GOP has been a dream come true.

originally posted by: Glinda
Bernie may go down in history for helping save the Republic by if not stopping, at least slowing down, the coronation of Hillary.

I don't agree with him, but oddly I respect him. He's not a liar. He is what he is.

Sanders is to the Democrats what Trump is to the Republicans. Outsiders whose voices are being marginally tolerated and are threatening the powers that be in the "uni party."

I don't like either of them, but they are the 2 best choices.

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Then vote for Gary because polling indicates he could get up to 11% of the vote but as long as he gets 5% the 2 party system can come to an end. We might get stuck with Clinton, or worse Trump, but at least we will have that victory and a path for 2020!

Jesus...2020! Where is time going!?

Irony.. Ron Paul Much?

Well let's see what he says...


Did he say it... No he didnt.... Nope..

This is what i am polling for..


Or Ricky Martin..

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: amicktd
I'm starting to think your a Hillary supporter since we're jumping to conclusions or maybe a closet Trump supporter who knows.

FYI: I don't support anyone. I can never support anyone running for either corrupt party. I won't cast a vote for a republican or a democrat.

And there's no way I would ever vote for Hillary or Trump.

My apologies, I shouldn't have made that statement. I have no proof to claim such statement, so I was in the wrong.

I read today that even if Bernie wins in NY the Superdelegates are still voting for Hillary. So no matter who the Democratic voters choice is the Superdelegates are already going to vote for Hillary. I feel real sorry for the public/ voters that think Democratic is the way to vote. Your vote DOES NOT COUNT.

originally posted by: Ceeker63
I read today that even if Bernie wins in NY the Superdelegates are still voting for Hillary. So no matter who the Democratic voters choice is the Superdelegates are already going to vote for Hillary. I feel real sorry for the public/ voters that think Democratic is the way to vote. Your vote DOES NOT COUNT.

Their are not enough of them effect things one way or the other unless things were very close. As is Clinton has huge lead in NY. When you look at the map and where Clinton has the strongest support Cali, NY, Pen you can see she hits the magic number with or without super delegates. With Sanders and the places left he has support even if he has every super delegate backing him I do not see the math working out for him.

Is Bernie Sanders still in the race? Haven't heard a peep about him on the Cable News channels since he won Hawaii/Alaska/Washington. Can Bernie's odds of winning be so poor that it's no longer worth devoting any air time to him? Bernie's supporters don't seem to be too bent out of shape by this dissing he's receiving from the media.

a reply to: carewemust

Most of the media has been agaisnt Bernie from the very beginning.

But why the hell are you watching cable news?