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An option for president!

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posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 03:46 AM
I keep seeing people say I wish we had an option , why don't we have an option, why are our only choices a crazy power hungry woman, a socialist, or a nut job real estate mogul.

There are options... none of those three people are going to fix the country in the next 4 years, because congress is still bought and we cant get corporations out of congress without getting the crooked people out first. (in my opinion)

So why not look at a third party, the Veterans party of America has a plan, they are trying to challenge the big 2 at city, and state and federal levels to remove the base of the big 2 so we can maybe actually cause change in our government. They are looking for candidates, you do not have to be a veteran to run.

If an opposition party candidate receives just 5% of the popular vote in a Presidential Election, their party automatically receives ballot access in all 50 states, equal federal campaign funding and access to presidential debates through the next election cycle.

Here is the main platform of their presidential candidate, if you don't like your choices give him a chance.

From my Platform, Item II: Separation of Church and State:
I believe in the necessity and sanctity of both religion and government. Therefore, I believe in their absolute separation from one another. As a representative Constitutional Republic, the values of our Judeo-Christian majority have been reflected in our history, currency, monuments and federal buildings. In my opinion, such imagery does not constitute a violation of Separation of Church and State. It is merely representative of our heritage and unparalleled growth as a nation.
However, our government must remain neutral to religious affiliation or influence in its actions. Government is constitutionally obligated not to give preference to one religion over any other. This obligation includes not giving preference to absence or censorship of religious expression. Government should have no opinion whatsoever on matters of faith, beyond acknowledging its moral intentions and contributions to human society. Government must never interfere with any US citizen’s free exercise of religious faith, unless their religious practices infringe the Constitutional Liberty of others against their will or conspire to overthrow the government.

From my Platform, Item 3: Job Creation: Job Creation will be stimulated by sweeping reforms in a number of different platform areas, including National Defense, Border Security, Education, Tax Reform, and Resource Sustainability. I firmly believe the United States must restore its manufacturing sector by any means necessary, in order to restore sustainable middle-class jobs on the scale our country requires

From my Platform, Item IV: Border Security:
No area of national security has been so blatantly disregarded by the federal government as Border Security. I will work with state governors and legislatures to immediately secure our porous, lawless and volatile southern border with Mexico, from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Ocean. In this era of international terrorism, our northern border with Canada is also a serious national security concern. Additionally, seaport and airport security must be legitimately improved with effective screening procedures. Port security along the Great Lakes and northern border waterways cannot be ignored.
There is often concern about how securing our borders may affect relations with our northern and southern neighbors. To those concerns, I respond: shouldn’t Border Security be our mutual, shared concern? If a poorly-secured border poses a threat to the United States, does it not pose the same threat to the citizens of Mexico and Canada? That which we fail to properly secure threatens us all.

From my Platform, Item 5: National Defense and Security: My life was transformed by the enormous personal, professional, educational and financial benefits of military service. I want to ensure those benefits remain available to every capable, qualified person willing to voluntarily support and defend the Constitution of United States of America – without exception.More than our diminishing military readiness and capability, cyber security has been this nation’s most vulnerable threat environment in the 21st century. The federal government has repeatedly, dismally failed to secure and protect its citizens' and employees' personal information.

That is just a handful of statements from his platform, please check the web site if you are interested at all.

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posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 03:48 AM
Here are his stances on a couple of social issues. (you can find the entire statement on the link above under the Facebook stream 6th of march.)

I do not consider Gun Rights, Free Speech, or Religious Freedom to be social issues. Those are guaranteed Constitutional Liberties protected by the 1st and 2nd Amendment. ANY attempt to restrict or regulate those rights is unconstitutional. Period.
LGBT rights, abortion and other legitimate social issues are not specifically addressed by the Constitution. Therefore, according to the 9th and 10th Amendments, all such matters are solely reserved for the People or the states to decide.
The 14th Amendment almost universally prohibits laws which discriminate or infringe upon our individual Liberty. It's not a stretch or a "Constitutional interpretation" to extend that protection from discrimination to the rights of LGBT Americans, or women seeking an abortion. That is why the Supreme Court has consistently decided in their favor. It's not an infection of "liberalism". It's the correct application of the 14th Amendment's widely-encompassing language.

What one should expect from a constitutional centrist.

For anyone deeply concerned about my personal positions on LGBT rights, abortion or any other divisive social issue... I have given you my vow as an elected representative. I will support and defend the Constitution and your personal Liberty. When I swear the Oath of Office upon the Bible, that oath will be a binding covenant between me, you and God. I expect that we will all hold me accountable to it.
So all that remains are my irrelevant personal opinions on these matters. If they are really that important to you, here you go:
On LGBT rights:
Every American is entitled to pursue their own personal definition of Life, Liberty and Happiness. If that means a lifetime commitment with someone of the same gender... or assuming a more appropriate gender identity... so be it. Decisions about life partners and gender identity are personal matters, not public ones. People don't have to like or accept the LGBT community. Prejudice and intolerance are also personal matters, not public ones. But no level of government... local, state or federal... has Constitutional authority to create or enforce discriminatory laws against any American. The 14th Amendment forbids it. It's that simple. From a moral standpoint, I sincerely believe that we are ultimately judged more for how well we loved in this life, than who we loved. You're entitled to disagree.
On Abortion:
Personally, I am strongly opposed to abortion as a means of birth control. If anyone in my life were considering one, I would urge them to make any other decision and honor the life entrusted to them. But I would respect their decision. Because it's ultimately their decision to answer for. Additionally, the Supreme Court has consistently ruled that abortion is a Constitutionally protected practice. Short of a Constitutional Amendment outlawing the practice, an infringement of Liberty that I would never support, it really doesn't matter how I feel about it personally. That said, I am vehemently opposed to Planned Parenthood providing abortions and selling fetal tissue, aborted fetuses and potentially terminating live births for profit without specifically informing the mothers of their activities. I cannot see those actions as anything but criminal, and grounds for complete termination of federal funding. The government should not provide funding for any such heinous "for profit" endeavor.
So... what am I?
A bleeding-heart liberal?
A fascist conservative?
A crazy libertarian?
Sorry, but it's none of the above. This what being a Constitutional centrist looks like. If you are sincerely committed to supporting and defending the Constitution, you often have to support and defend Liberties you may find personally objectionable. You really have no other choice.

I tried to grab the meat of his statement for the quoted parts, please if this sounds like a candidate you could get behind read the rest, if you have questions and use facebook, message him he will respond.

Everyone in the Veterans Party knows we have zero shot of winning the elections, thats not the goal the goal is the 5% mark then we will have the money to really begin dismantling the corruption. We have already had candidates push establishment people to the brink with a shoe string budget versus millions.

The American people are ready for change, but change cant happen without the American people, its time to fight for it. I have spent the better part of my life complaining about the status quo yet I have never gotten off my butt to do anything about it beyond voting for Perot.

Isn't it time we start demanding better from our elected officials in congress... they have failed us over and over again they have rock bottom approval ratings, yet nearly 100% re-election numbers, lets get off our collective butts and find some new candidates... if there are no new ones available then contact your states VPOA representatives and volunteer to be the change you want.

posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 04:51 AM
Why not the Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson?

posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 05:06 AM
a reply to: Kali74

Honestly I like him as well..and if that is the route people want to take Yes please do.

I like a lot of the positions of the libertarian party, I honestly think they and the VPOA can work closely on many issues and should.

The more people that get off the roles of the R's and D's the less money they will have, and the more chances people in third parties can break in and make a difference.

I have been a part of this party since they were recognized in my home state, and I plan to fight for them as long as they resist the corruption that has infected Republicans and Democrats.

Currently everyone campaigning for or working directly for the VPOA is unpaid, our presidential candidate has a day job, our party leaders at the state level are doing this because they love our country and want to help change it and thats all the pay they want.

As long as thats what drives us I can support the party to the utmost of my ability.

posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 12:08 PM
a reply to: Irishhaf

Much obliged. I always vote and I always vote my conscious, so I won't be voting for a Republican or Democrat. I haven't had time to look for an alternative yet but I'll check into your recommendation. Got to find somebody worthwhile before November.

posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 01:39 PM
I don't want to hear it. You guys had options when Ben was running. He was the most intelligent, most honest, most moral person to run for president in my entire lifetime. But the US didn't give him the time of day.

You're right. All we have left are psychopaths. You all CHOSE the psychopaths! Enjoy another 4 years of hell. You all deserve it.

posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 02:35 PM
The problem though is....Chris Who?


At least with Ron Paul, by the end, most folks knew who he was. I didn't vote for the lesser of two evils last time, I too voted my conscience, and went with Paul then.

posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 02:40 PM
a reply to: Irishhaf

This, is an option not establishment. So where are the supporters who supposedly want change?


Pledging their loyalty to a man, beyond their people and country. Thats where. We deserve what is coming.

edit on 3 7 2016 by tadaman because: (no reason given)

posted on Mar, 7 2016 @ 04:39 PM
Putting a third party in the oval office is not the goal this election cycle, the goal is getting a third party on even footing with the Republicans and Democrats.

Everyone is to obsessed with right now, or winning this instant, that kind of thinking has to change; the corruption has been decades in growing and it will take years of pushing to force it back.

This problem has to be approached with a farmers mentality, because there is no magic fix for our countries problems; we will have to take long looks at each problem and not just choose what makes us feel good right now.

We are going to have to start making choices around the idea of how can we make things better for the next generation, because we sat on our butts so long it will take generations to fix.

But we cannot even take the first step till we get non corporation owned options on the table, so that means 5% in the popular vote, then 3 years of hard work... followed by prepping another candidate to fight for that 5%. This will be a repeating cycle till we are crushed/owned/or the country is on even footing once more.

If the VPOA is not your cup of tea, then look to one of the other third parties... dont choose the lesser of two evils, because they both have 1 thing in common... evil choices.

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