originally posted by: Raggedyman
Abiogenesis is evolution, see the above link by new scientists
Newscientist isn't a peer reviewed journal, they host articles about science that are often dumbed down for folks that don't understand the
technicalities. Abiogenesis could be described as chemical evolution, not biological evolution (theory of modern synthesis)l. Biological evolution
requires genetic mutations. You can't have genetic mutations without DNA.
Abiogenesis describes the emergence of the first self replicating RNA/DNA molecule and how it could have happened. Obviously there's much more to
learn in that area. But biological evolution is absolutely slam dunk proven. Your problem is you equate the 2 fields as equal when they are not.
Evolution as a word has multiple meanings and you are using the layman's term to try to debunk the scientific term. Unfortunately for you, it doesn't
work like that.
Atheists dont believe in God, though they can believe in the force? Aliens who crated us? what ever isnt God evidently?
Thats just soft reasoning, you just push the question back, where did the force come from, aliens, whatever you want to believe.
Like I said, atheists can believe in anything they want to, provided it doesn't include god. That isn't soft reasoning, that's a fact. All atheism
means is lack of belief in god. That doesn't mean they can't believe in other things.
I know this is difficult to understand since you come from a religious background, but not everybody needs to make up an answer to everything they
don't understand. Some simply admit that we don't know the answer. Some insert answers that make them feel comfortable (god). Some wait for proof.
That's the crowd I'm in.
So Barcs, you believe that a supernatural entity, identity created life.
No. I do not believe that. You said "the supernatural" which can refer to almost anything unknown, not just god and ghosts.
Unless you dont believe that and lack the courage to actually tell the truth, are scared to say "I dont know"
I've already said numerous times that I don't know the answer to the origin of life. Now if only you had that same courage instead of blindly
believing ancient god myths as literal truth. Are you scared to say, "I don't know"? It sure seems like it.
Atheists bitch and moan if anyone suggests even flippantly that mankind evolved from fish and monkeys, yet "We don't know how consciousness
happened..." Isnt an issue to anyone who believes in what I can only see as the religion of evolution
Those 2 statements are not related. We do not know how consciousness emerged exactly but there are some ideas. It's not just atheists that agree
with evolution, STOP PIGEONHOLING THEM. People that understand evolution get annoyed when you straw man the theory of evolution and equate it to
stardust and dirt, yes, because it has nothing to do with that.
Evolution also has nothing to do with atheism. You need to step down off the pedestal, you aren't above anybody, your arguments rely on fallacies and
this thread has already been proven to be nothing more than an attack on atheists. Your confidence in your belief system must be dwindling because
threads like this are a complete waste of time when you don't understand the science being discussed. Instead of attacking what you don't understand,
take some time to understand the opposing position. When you make a straw man thread specifically designed to attack a certain group of people, you
have already failed and hurt your cause.
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