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Originally posted by Eurofile007
Are the Illuminati/Freemasons and the Vatican enemies?
Originally posted by Eurofile007
However, when you listen to David Icke, he seems to say....
Originally posted by Eurofile007
Is there a contradiction here? Are all secret societies working together or are they at war with each other too?
Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by Eurofile007
It is not the Freemasons who fear or hate the Vatican or its followers; it's the other way around. The Vatican hates us. There are many Catholics who are also Freemasons.
Freemasons don't "rule America."
Originally posted by Earth Angel
I was brought up a devoute Chatholic until i reached my rebellious teens. Now i have many doubts about the catholic church. I feel it is the real work of the dark side in disguise. All the child sex abuse for a start. Religion causes war. Look at northan Ireland for example.
I also feel that that the church have taken away our rights to view the true scriptures. They only allow us to read what they want us to read. Alot of hidden paperwork such as ancient texts are kept locked up and hidden form society because they contain the truth of our origion that we are not from this earth and we have not evolved. We were created in a Lab.
If we found this out, the whole religion and control will fall apart along with politics which uslly equells money equel greed equells evil.
There is some evidence of the Illuminati infiltrating Freemasonry with intent to undermine it, if you believe what H2 says (I don't).
Originally posted by Fitzgibbon
Originally posted by Eurofile007
Are the Illuminati/Freemasons and the Vatican enemies?
Oh goody! A 7 1/2-year-languishing necro-thread.
1. Illuminati don't exist anymore
2. Illuminati ≠ Freemasons
3. It's more a case the Vatican has issues with Freemasonry rather than the other way around.
Originally posted by Eurofile007
However, when you listen to David Icke, he seems to say....
You see, that's where you went sideways right there. Listening to David Icke is an express pass to WTF?
Originally posted by Eurofile007
Is there a contradiction here? Are all secret societies working together or are they at war with each other too?
How about the choice from column "C"? None of the above?
HTH
Fitz
Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by Eurofile007
It is not the Freemasons who fear or hate the Vatican or its followers; it's the other way around. The Vatican hates us. There are many Catholics who are also Freemasons.
Freemasons don't "rule America."
Originally posted by Eurofile007
George Washington said in his letters that Freemasonry was taking over America and dividing the people from their government.
Originally posted by Eurofile007
Originally posted by Fitzgibbon
Originally posted by Eurofile007
Are the Illuminati/Freemasons and the Vatican enemies?
Oh goody! A 7 1/2-year-languishing necro-thread.
1. Illuminati don't exist anymore
2. Illuminati ≠ Freemasons
3. It's more a case the Vatican has issues with Freemasonry rather than the other way around.
Originally posted by Eurofile007
However, when you listen to David Icke, he seems to say....
You see, that's where you went sideways right there. Listening to David Icke is an express pass to WTF?
Originally posted by Eurofile007
Is there a contradiction here? Are all secret societies working together or are they at war with each other too?
How about the choice from column "C"? None of the above?
HTH
Fitz
You are assuming that the official version of things is fact. You forget that the Illuminati could have gone underground and pretended to be disbanded to ward off their enemies from tracking them down. You failed to consider that. Just because a cover story is designed to mislead you doesn't mean it must be true.
Originally posted by Eurofile007
Then how do you explain all the Freemasonic symbolism all over Washington DC? There's even a book about it. It's indisputable. George Washington said in his letters that Freemasonry was taking over America and dividing the people from their government.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
reply to post by KSigMason
IDK, with what politics has become I can see why Masons would want to take a different approach. They are not the only ones waking up to that.
Originally posted by network dude
Originally posted by Eurofile007
Then how do you explain all the Freemasonic symbolism all over Washington DC? There's even a book about it. It's indisputable. George Washington said in his letters that Freemasonry was taking over America and dividing the people from their government.
Oh! Let me try!
Is it because George Washington was a Freemason and he helped build the ideals for Washington DC?
And I think you are thinking of the Illuminati. Washington was a little worried about them at the time since they tended to get things done in a quick manner, I don't think he wanted them poking around his new nation. But much to his delightment, they disbanded a short time later. And now only exist in the minds and underwear drawers of conspiracy theorists. Oh, and in Superbowl halftime shows of course.
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by NarrowGate
I was told by the underpants gnomes. They are real. They are the Illuminati.