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Nato Fleet Deployed To Help Stop Refugees Leaving Turkey

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posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 10:02 AM
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www.independent.co.uk...

Nato diplomats said that rather than direct intervention, intelligence gathered about people-smugglers is likely to be handed over to Turkish coastguards to allow them to combat the traffickers more effectively.

Yet there have been numerous incidents where interactions between larger coastguard ships and refugee boats have resulted in the latter being capsized, and it is not known how people smuggler captains will react to sighting a large Nato warship in their path.

Nato confirmed that any refugees it "saves" from the vessels will be taken back to Turkey. According to Reuters, the Greek and Turkish coastguards will continue to operate exclusively within their own territorial waters.


This is the situation for refugees in Turkey.




www.dailysabah.com...

European countries have been experiencing an influx of migrants seeking asylum in recent years especially from Northern Africa, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan, yet to this date European cities struggle in dealing with these human tragedies. Case in point is the French city of Calais.

Asylum seekers from Syria, Sudan, Afghanistan, and Eritrea have made Calais a place in which they hope to use as a crossing point from France to the United Kingdom, whereas French authorities have been restricting their stay in the city while at the same time are demolishing their camps.

Refugees seeking to reach to the U.K., sneak on to trucks travelling to Britain, or use the Channel Tunnel. However, on the road to a safer haven, many of them unfortunately die in those very same trucks.

Meanwhile, refugees escaping Syria and Iraq's civil wars have been welcomed by Turkish authorities and placed in well-organized camps in Turkey's southern border provinces. Many of the camps have schools, playgrounds for children, and other social amenities, including psychological assistance. Turkey has spent nearly six billion dollars on its refugee programs, while assistance from EU countries was around a meager 450 million dollars.

According to recent U.N. figures, Turkey hosts nearly two million Syrian refugees who have fled the civil war in Syria - which has been continuing for over four years - in 25 camps built by the Prime Ministry of Disaster and Emergency Management Authority (AFAD).

The camps have received several awards and been praised by international visitors for their efforts in providing sustainable services. The largest camp is in the border town of Suruç, located in the southeastern province of Şanlıurfa, which opened in February 2015 and hosts nearly 25,000 refugees.

The striking difference between Europe and Turkey's handling of the refugee situation in their countries is clearly portrayed in the photo above, where the left represents a shot from a refugee camp in Turkey's southern district of Şuruç, while the images on the right were taken of make shift camps where migrants in the French city of Calais are forced to spend their time until they get a chance to flee to the U.K.


Turkey will be patient up to a point.
www.dailysabah.com...

President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan on Thursday said that Turkey will be patient up to a point over the crisis in Syria and could be forced to take action if necessary. Erdoğan said, he had previously told two top EU's officials, Jean-Claude Juncker and Donald Tusk, that the time could come when Turkey would open the gates for refugees to travel to Europe.


wideshut.co.uk...

. . . the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…


Maybe the Afghanis at Calais are right. When the whole world turns upside down, open a cafe.




posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 10:09 AM
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a reply to: Kester

Nice cover for off loading arms and supplies for the coming Turkish (NATO) 'intervention' in Syria, just saying…



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 10:10 AM
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Instead of 'Stop Refugees Leaving Turkey', NATO is actually wanting to 'rescue' their precious ISIS allies before Russia nukes Turkey.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 10:12 AM
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a reply to: intrptr

My first attempt at a title contained the words, 'Humanitarian Warships'.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 10:14 AM
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Did they bring a lock for the barn-door now that the horses have already bolted by the hundreds-of-thousands?



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 10:21 AM
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originally posted by: Kester
a reply to: intrptr

My first attempt at a title contained the words, 'Humanitarian Warships'.


Disingenuous 'humanitarian' missions to 'intervene' and help people with the military… theres your sign.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 10:37 AM
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originally posted by: Kester
a reply to: intrptr

My first attempt at a title contained the words, 'Humanitarian Warships'.


Geeeze dark humor - really though, people will eat this right up and not even question the true purpose of what's going on (facepalm)



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 10:51 AM
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"Nato confirmed that any refugees it "saves" from the vessels will be taken back to Turkey"


Wait, refugees are fleeing turkey to go to Syria?!?! I am confused... Why are these people leaving Turkey? They have to be from Turkey if they are being taken BACK. Unless these guys aren't heading toward Syria but outward.

Is this Nato trying to trick us into thinking they are helping when they are really just shipping "Syrians" into turkey.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: Antipathy17
From Turkey to the rest of Europe I imagine.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 12:53 PM
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imagine how after the collapse of the American economy (that so many profess is inevitable) just how many of those Americans will be trying to flee off into mexico or canada, feeling the resistance as both countries tighten their borders, shipping them back. actually try to put yourself into those shoes in your mind.

with those thoughts in mind what should we do about the refugees? cause right now nato is shipping them right back.... proud of your country?



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 01:07 PM
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Turkey has what they think is an 'ace in the hole' with these refugees because if other NATO nations do not support their position, they can threaten to let the refugees travel to Europe (en-mass). That would move the problem to Europe more than Turkey.

As such, possibly ships are being put there to prevent that type of card being played by the megalomaniac Erdogan....



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 02:52 PM
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The refugees are coming from several places and being sailed to Europe by smugglers making a fortune in doing so. NATO already has a permanent fleet called the Standing NATO Maritime Group Two. It has ships from Germany, Greece, Turkey, Canada and Italy. NATO is now using the group to intercept smugglers and take the refugees to Turkey so they can be sorted and the ones not from Syria be sent back home. At some point it is likely a few more ships will join this group, likely US ships already doing tours of the Mediterranean. A EU fleet is already doing the same off of Italy and Malta.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 02:59 PM
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Troops building up at the Baltic sea ... troops build up at Turkey.
This is a Nato WW3 tactical move.
Remember their strategy: to contain Russia's expansion.

Dangerous games we play.

Humanitarian mission?

Leck mich am mokka.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 03:12 PM
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originally posted by: Daalder
Troops building up at the Baltic sea ... troops build up at Turkey.
This is a Nato WW3 tactical move.



It does look that way. NATO moving in under the cover of containing the refugees.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 03:12 PM
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originally posted by: Daalder
Troops building up at the Baltic sea ... troops build up at Turkey.
This is a Nato WW3 tactical move.
Remember their strategy: to contain Russia's expansion.

Dangerous games we play.

Humanitarian mission?

Leck mich am mokka.



A troop build up that would have any real effect on Russia would have to be in the tens of thousands. 6000 troops spread across six NATO nations and 1 destroyer, 1 frigate and 3 mine sweepers in the Baltic is barely a defensive move and more of tripwire that lets Russia know that NATO will respond to an attack on one its remembers.

And again the ships for this mission are always in the Med. currently hanging out in Cyprus. So far no additional ships have been sent. So that would be a zero increase for Turkey.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 03:19 PM
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NATO ships cannot possibly help anybody in rescuing or facing immigration problems. NATO ships are war weapons, their only purpose is going to be to fight against the kurds, unless the USA stops these operations and vetos any such crazy manouvers. That said, deployment would take a rather long time and from announcing to actual policy put in practice would take about a month. So they are not yet there.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 04:12 PM
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a reply to: NobodiesNormal

Americans won't be mass rapid women and stabbing people.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 05:38 PM
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originally posted by: Antipathy17
"Nato confirmed that any refugees it "saves" from the vessels will be taken back to Turkey"


Wait, refugees are fleeing turkey to go to Syria?!?! I am confused... Why are these people leaving Turkey? They have to be from Turkey if they are being taken BACK. Unless these guys aren't heading toward Syria but outward.

Is this Nato trying to trick us into thinking they are helping when they are really just shipping "Syrians" into turkey.


The refugees are transiting from Syria to Western Europe. The route goes through Turkey, across the Aegean Sea to Greece, then through the Balkans avoiding Hungary on their way to Germany and points North and west.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 09:51 PM
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a reply to: NobodiesNormal

Sure, I'm proud of their restraint in returning them home. They could just literally tell them to go back on their own the way they came under their own time, money and energy. Perhaps that means they drown swimming back...



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 12:20 AM
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originally posted by: Flanker86
NATO ships cannot possibly help anybody in rescuing or facing immigration problems. NATO ships are war weapons, their only purpose is going to be to fight against the kurds, unless the USA stops these operations and vetos any such crazy manouvers. That said, deployment would take a rather long time and from announcing to actual policy put in practice would take about a month. So they are not yet there.


So you think ships can not stop ships? And the only Kurds the Turks have problem with are in Turkey and the mountains that border Iraq and Turkey, The rest of the Kurds in Iraq and Syria are Turkish allies. And these smaller ships would not be able to do anything about things deep in the mountains of Turkey.

And the deployment is already complete because NATO has a fleet in Med all the time. They simply have a new mission.




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