Do you think the NWO are in power?

Originally posted by spubbles
Anarchy is total freedom. THats my look on it. If only we had anarchy with no hate. Then our world would be perfect.

IMO, to gain back our freedom would also mean taking individual responsibility for what we do with that freedom...As it is, people don't *want* to have that responsibility anymore & that's why they've given up their freedoms to the Elitist classes.

But then again, those very same Elitists have also been responsible for manipulating people into not wanting that responsibility in the first place...


[Edited on 22-6-2003 by MidnightDStroyer]

Originally posted by f16falcon
they are already in power with their puppets in high places

EU, UN are the two main ones

I'm with f16falcon on this!

We just dont see it because it already has control over many of us!

Tv .....it is the main source of brainwashing .....News,current affairs,movies etc....

The one thing that amazes me about you "freedom fighters", is that although you know that the NWO plan exists, you don't know what it is.

You can only guess.

You need to find out whether or not it is worth fighting against or possibly even embracing before you make any decisions.
I don't believe you need to panic yet. The NWO plan can be seen in action at www.un.org

I refuse to fight until I know if I'm fighting for freedom and not against it.

I think the NWO has been in place since just before WW2. The Bushes are the ones who control it right now. George HW Bush called for one in one of his State of the Union addresses but I think that was a revamping of the one that was already in power. Bush Sr. was the one running the Reagan White House and met with Clinton 11 times b4 1992. I think there was a deal going on. Here's the deal and where I am going with this:
1) If Clinton were to beat Bush in '92 then they would need to have someone on their side. I think they told Clinton about what was going on and the way to keep American dominance. Of course Clinton accepted the deal, he would become rich off the deal. The deal was, you keep funneling drugs into the country via the CIA (remember Mena, Arkansas) and we let you serve your 8 years without anything happening to you.
2) I mentioned in in point #1 that they told Clinton what was going on. This is what that was: they knew that Peak Oil was going to hit early in 2000s. Clinton's job was to keep the drug rings going for money that was being made so it could be laundered in the stock markets to pay for covert CIA operations around the world. Kosovo is a hot-bed for heroin smuggling. The Caspain region is also oil and natural gas rich. Clinton did it like Pavlov's dog.
3) Beyond that deal, they needed a way to get to the middle east to control that last reserves of oil. When the Taliban ridded their country of poppy plants, they had the pretext for economic war and an opportunity to create 9/11, and also to assert dominance in the middle east. They also have to be there to create friendly governments with "democracies" to give the people the impression of promoting democracy as a way to get the American people on-board.
4) When we hit Peak Oil these people will loose power as the public abandons them and the people fall into changing their lives to survive. They can't control much without money and energy.
I think we're heading into the end the World Order. Bliderbergs? If they do create a 1 world government who cares? People like you and me will be more concerned with survival to care whether our country really joins the world community. We're going to change to a socialistic society much like Germany and Norway are.
I think this is how things will play out. It just seems more realistic to me.

Secretly yes, i would say the NWO have control over the western world by do not have complete power over the whole world, yet.

Well I'll tell you some information I scooped up. I have been reading some of the White Socialist websites (Nazi sympathisers) and everytime the new world order is brought up somehow the jews are blamed for the NWO. On this site however it is said what the new world order is is more so corporations and various people of money wanting power. It's also been said that Hitler was brought to power because of the new world order so that kind of contradicts any statements if that is indeed true about the jews behind the new world order yes? I'm sure there are some jews involved behind it but that doesn't make every jew a bad person. I believe most empires or growing empires have involved the NWO before such as Rome, England, Possibly the Soviet Union, and of course America.

what a bloody joke.

united in what ? socialism ? communism ?

I think it's a wet dream , put together by believers.

I too think it's been around for a long long time. I'm beginning to think , that joseph mccarthy was too late with his warnings/accusations . that's why he was quashed, they were very organized and knew how to deal with a threat of this nature.

there is a recipie for cooking the frog [ free citizens ]....slowly , and the heat low, so low as to be unperceptible, to the avg person.

Seems to me, that most folks up to a certain point, enjoyed the way things used to be, better than they enjoy life now. I'd say the change was due to a cpl of factors . The industrial revolution, then technology , but there's an unseen element , steering the society thru manipulations of politically correct [ or COMMIE SPEAK ] and other social changes...I'm sure most of you who are old enuf , are aware of some of these changes as well and can add your own. in fact, I welcome any additions.

how about giving away our jobs to the commies, that started in the 80's ?
then NAFTA , giving away our jobs to the socialists ?
while we raise the standard of living for others, ours drops...that's supposed to be capitalism/free trade ? at what cost ? who profits ?

I've posted this on a few threads . a chronological history of NWO , to gain perspective ;

www.khouse.org...

I agree with others, it's here now, just not full bore....yet !

is it good or bad ?

seems to me , politically correct is limiting freedoms....and prohibiting flag burning is limiting freedoms , and giving away our jobs just to name a few
so...I'd say, not good...not good at all.

but what do you guys say ?

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I do think the New World Order is operating behind the scenes and that Global Politicians are nothing more than puppets of highter entities controlling global life but in a very secretive way.

They may think they are in power. They are getting more open about it too.

Like selling New World Order shirts at Walmart for children.