Originally posted by spubbles
Anarchy is total freedom. THats my look on it. If only we had anarchy with no hate. Then our world would be perfect.

IMO, to gain back our freedom would also mean taking individual responsibility for what we do with that freedom...As it is, people don't *want* to have that responsibility anymore & that's why they've given up their freedoms to the Elitist classes.

But then again, those very same Elitists have also been responsible for manipulating people into not wanting that responsibility in the first place...


[Edited on 22-6-2003 by MidnightDStroyer]

Originally posted by f16falcon
they are already in power with their puppets in high places

EU, UN are the two main ones

I'm with f16falcon on this!

We just dont see it because it already has control over many of us!

Tv .....it is the main source of brainwashing .....News,current affairs,movies etc....

I think the NWO has been in place since just before WW2. The Bushes are the ones who control it right now. George HW Bush called for one in one of his State of the Union addresses but I think that was a revamping of the one that was already in power. Bush Sr. was the one running the Reagan White House and met with Clinton 11 times b4 1992. I think there was a deal going on. Here's the deal and where I am going with this:
1) If Clinton were to beat Bush in '92 then they would need to have someone on their side. I think they told Clinton about what was going on and the way to keep American dominance. Of course Clinton accepted the deal, he would become rich off the deal. The deal was, you keep funneling drugs into the country via the CIA (remember Mena, Arkansas) and we let you serve your 8 years without anything happening to you.
2) I mentioned in in point #1 that they told Clinton what was going on. This is what that was: they knew that Peak Oil was going to hit early in 2000s. Clinton's job was to keep the drug rings going for money that was being made so it could be laundered in the stock markets to pay for covert CIA operations around the world. Kosovo is a hot-bed for heroin smuggling. The Caspain region is also oil and natural gas rich. Clinton did it like Pavlov's dog.
3) Beyond that deal, they needed a way to get to the middle east to control that last reserves of oil. When the Taliban ridded their country of poppy plants, they had the pretext for economic war and an opportunity to create 9/11, and also to assert dominance in the middle east. They also have to be there to create friendly governments with "democracies" to give the people the impression of promoting democracy as a way to get the American people on-board.
4) When we hit Peak Oil these people will loose power as the public abandons them and the people fall into changing their lives to survive. They can't control much without money and energy.
I think we're heading into the end the World Order. Bliderbergs? If they do create a 1 world government who cares? People like you and me will be more concerned with survival to care whether our country really joins the world community. We're going to change to a socialistic society much like Germany and Norway are.
I think this is how things will play out. It just seems more realistic to me.

Secretly yes, i would say the NWO have control over the western world by do not have complete power over the whole world, yet.

Well I'll tell you some information I scooped up. I have been reading some of the White Socialist websites (Nazi sympathisers) and everytime the new world order is brought up somehow the jews are blamed for the NWO. On this site however it is said what the new world order is is more so corporations and various people of money wanting power. It's also been said that Hitler was brought to power because of the new world order so that kind of contradicts any statements if that is indeed true about the jews behind the new world order yes? I'm sure there are some jews involved behind it but that doesn't make every jew a bad person. I believe most empires or growing empires have involved the NWO before such as Rome, England, Possibly the Soviet Union, and of course America.