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New British history course outrage - Africans were here before the English

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posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 10:33 AM
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Anger at GCSE History course

Well, it has begun! Spin that history!

Taking a small tidbit of a fact(Roman soldiers) and puffing it up to what amounts to a huge impact of British history. Thank you Africans from the Roman garrison, for giving us our history...



Critics, however, say that history is being 're-written' in an attempt to be politically correct. Historian Sir Roy Strong said: "The only Africans who came here were a few with the Romans who came and then left! "This stands history on its head, projecting back on to the past something that isn’t true. "I find it disturbing that our children should be taught something that is clearly designed to feed into contemporary problems rather than tell our island’s story properly."


Thoughts?
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posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 10:36 AM
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Wasent there mining being done in the isles and trading way before the english had a nation, not sure why people are getting mad.
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posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: Butterfinger
Anger at GCSE History course

Well, it has begun! Spin that history!

Taking a small tidbit of a fact(Roman soldiers) and puffing it up to what amounts to a huge impact of British history. Thank you Africans from the Roman garrison, for giving us our history...



Critics, however, say that history is being 're-written' in an attempt to be politically correct. Historian Sir Roy Strong said: "The only Africans who came here were a few with the Romans who came and then left! "This stands history on its head, projecting back on to the past something that isn’t true. "I find it disturbing that our children should be taught something that is clearly designed to feed into contemporary problems rather than tell our island’s story properly."


Thoughts?


Given that half of what is taught in history classes in western countries is just a pack of lies anyway I don't think it makes much difference.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 10:42 AM
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It depends on their definition of "English"

Personally I'd say any indigenous people would be "English" as in living in the country now known as England which goes against these teachings of "Africans were here before the English"

Just seems like a poor attempt to say multiculturalism has always been a "thing" in the UK and just teaches people bad history



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 10:44 AM
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a reply to: dukeofjive696969

Thats why they call it "Spin" - tweak the truth to get a certain perspective across that benefits a personal agenda.

Of course everyone except the Welsh are basically migrants post 100AD or so(citation needed)

This is a small fact, presented as more important and having a larger impact on the isle's history. I'd say the Mediterranean culture as masters had a larger impact than African workers did.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 10:44 AM
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So are they going to give Africans casinos?



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 10:50 AM
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a reply to: Butterfinger

I'm not too familiar with the history of England, BUT, I will tell you that in North America the history of blacks being here before Columbus is information that was suppressed.

There was a great book called "They Came Before Columbus", all about it amazon

If they are using a false premise for a "pro-immigration" argument, this doesn't seem like a great way to do it. How would Africans coming to England REALLY change peoples' perceptions of the current immigration crisis? That's me being devil's advocate..



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 11:08 AM
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I'd disagree there, the 'English' are so named because they are the Angle tribe of Saxons who came and settled in the British Isles in the post Roman period, part of a wave of Angle and Saxon invaders who pushed the native Celtic 'British' peoples off into the fringes of Wales and Scotland.

Hence the term 'Anglo-Saxon'. And 'Angles' transformed over the years into 'English'.

So the English are actually a relatively recent set of immigrants into these fair and pleasant Islands.

So yes, it is entirely historically accurate to say that there were some Africans here long before the Angles arrived around the mid 5th Century AD.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 11:16 AM
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a reply to: Painterz

You go to that other celtic zone called Wales and lots of people appear like Berbers. Lots of trade from Phoenicia and Morocco must have gone there, or the Romans, but there is a more Mediterranean look in Wales than the east of England.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: Butterfinger

English history goes back further than the Romans.
The story headline is nonsense.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 11:36 AM
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If Africans were here even briefly that's still immigration by definition which seems to be the entire point of the course. That's the only part of the article that's been cited as any kind of fact.

Insert random unrelated picture of laughing Muslim girl to make the paranoid white brits think they're deliberately having the piss taken out of them by foreigners and marxists.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 11:37 AM
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a reply to: Butterfinger

The English didn't just jump out of a mug of Earl Grey-they had to come from somewhere.

And if my anthropology knowledge is correct we all came from Africa at one point in time-but don't tell Prince Phillip that-I would be surprised if he didn't thoroughly sterilize himself after shaking an African tribesman's hand.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 11:41 AM
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Around my area lots of people look quite dark myself included. Saying that Lionel Richie always drops in here on his tour every year, so could be a modern phenomenon.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 11:55 AM
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They should remember to point out that these Africans were part of an invasion and occupation force that ruined the lives of ordinary Britons.

I'd have thought teaching about how 15% of the royal navy at trafalgar was of African origin would have done a better job of showing integration, but what else can you expect from cultural Marxists? Certainly not the unvarnished truth.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 12:11 PM
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a reply to: dukeofjive696969
Yes by the Trojans and Greeks for tin.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 01:54 PM
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a reply to: Butterfinger

I don't know it matters anymore what they teach. In case you hadn't noticed, everything is Afrocentric anymore. Its what sells.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 02:04 PM
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I am quite pleased to see that they are finally teaching that peoples from all over Europe and beyond have been coming to Britain - and settling here - for thousands of years.

There were black Africans living here in Roman times. So what? Its the truth! And some may have even settled here, Britain being a somewhat desireable place to live back then, if you had the money.

Mind, doesnt change the fact that the Romans f*cked us up and created divisions that last to this day ....
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posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: Butterfinger

Yeah its crap like this that makes me entirely write off African centrism.

Proto Europeans were the first in Europe and could have added modern genetic admixtures INTO Africa into an original population which survived better than the rest, making all future generations have modern human genetic makeup.

But what ever. People want to seem smart to idiots while making anyone with a moderate education laugh their asses off.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: Butterfinger

"I find it disturbing that our children should be taught something that is clearly designed to feed into contemporary problems rather than tell our island’s story properly."

Welcome to the strange world of leftist politics.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 04:33 PM
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The course, entitled 'Migration to Britain c.1000 to c.2010', includes a text by Marxist writer Peter Fryer, who said: "There were Africans in Britain before the English came."

The course, set to launch in September, will focus on the diversity of Britain's population through the ages, highlighting a group of African soldiers who briefly occupied a section of Hadrian's Wall in the third century, before the arrival of Anglo-Saxons.


My question is: What does a 3rd century roman occupation have to do with a course on 10th through 21st century immigration?

-dex



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