Polls show major swing towards Bernie...Hillary in trouble?

The lastest RCP polls show a major swing towards Sanders:



Could this be the beginning of the end for Hillary? She has taken an awful battering over the past few weeks, with her 'sexist' strategy backfiring when she went up against Trump and new information surfacing about the email leaks.

Bernie has also surged past her in Iowa polling.

With Iowa just a couple fo weeks away, could she even drop out to be replaced by a new establishment candidate?

a reply to: UKTruth

I have no idea, however I think it is likely no secret I am a fan of none of them.
I often times wonder about these polls and why they bother, there is a part of me that wishes TPTB would just come out and admit they they Run who they Run, and we deal with it.

In short the most telling polls would not be polls most the population, but rather among the DNC AND RNC.

Still a bit of a climb for Sanders to go . I would like to see another viable candidate in the Progressive Socialist Liberal Party other than what they are fielding now.A decrepit individual and one that words just cannot describe .The others are not Socialist/Liberal enough .Strange they still call it the "Democratic Party" which disappeared after Bill and Teddy.

Is Hillary in trouble?

Hmmm...let's see.

1) 1,340 Classified emails (including a few that were even Top Secret) passing through her virtually unprotected private server
2) Her lawyer being in possession of a thumb drive containing thousands of Hillary's emails (Kendall did not have the level of authority necessary, some say, to possess the sensitive information in the emails he was "holding")
3) The deleting of 30-40,000 emails from her server, before she handed it over to authorities pursuant to a Court Order...some/many of these now being recovered by FBI forensic experts
4) Increasing indications that Hillary and Bill used the Clinton Foundation to raise hundreds of million of dollars, in exchange for contracts and favours granted while she was Secretary of State - and the Lord only knows how many more pending if she were ever to become POTUS
5) 150 FBI agents now assigned to investigate Hillary, Bill and others in the Clintons' inner circle

Yea...I'd say she is in a bit of trouble - and Bernie's rise in the Polls is likely the very least of her coming woes.

I am not a big fan of Bernie but I would LOVE to see him defeat Hillary just because of the smug attitude she has and because of the way the media implies she already has the election in the bag.

I wouldn't mind Bernie if there was a Republican Congress. They would hold most of his socialist agenda at bay. If he could only get rid of some of the power of the lobbyist and bring awareness to overturning citizens united during his 4 years it would be more than any president has done for America in quite some time.

The Republicans have nobody up there who would be a good president. At least in the top ranks. It's funny that this is the time Romney would likely have won and he isn't in the race.

As an independent its the saddest election I can recall.

originally posted by: luthier
If he could only get rid of some of the power of the lobbyist and bring awareness to overturning citizens united during his 4 years it would be more than any president has done for America in quite some time.

Neither party will ever voluntarily eliminate lobbying.

Possibly. His record says differently as far as the bills he has authored and supported but maybe it's because he knows it won't work?

But even talking about it to the public is better than most politicians.

Of course you prob need to overturn the telecom act to overturn citizens united. So..

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

His record is irrelevant if he becomes President, he cannot enact a law eliminating lobbying, it has to originate with Congress.

It is looking like brokered conventions in both parties may be more likely....

R's can't nominate Trump.
D's can't nominate Bernie.

They just aren't Bush and Clinton!

originally posted by: butcherguy
It is looking like brokered conventions in both parties may be more likely....

R's can't nominate Trump.
D's can't nominate Bernie.

They just aren't Bush and Clinton!

I agree - this is shaping up to the establishments worst nightmare, so I am expecting that every dirty trick they can imagine will be put into full swing.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Anything that directly affects representatives such as salaries, benefits, and lobbying should be put on the ballot for the public to decide. Maybe we need a president who will rally the public to help put pressure on representatives to put these decisions on the ballot so we can eliminate these conflicts of interest votes. I think Bernie would be that kind of president.

Congress has too much control over things that should be decided by a public ballot. They're supposed to represent the public not themselves.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

His record is irrelevant if he becomes President, he cannot enact a law eliminating lobbying, it has to originate with Congress.

Thats why I said talk to the public about it. The president is a leader. If he talks to the public they may understand the situation better and pressure Congress. The news may pick up on the discussion etc.

He also can work with Congress and lawmakers through dialogue.

But thanks for the lesson anyway

Trump is a rich buffoon.
Sanders is a head in the clouds idealist.

There is one thing that I can truly get behind right now....
Texas Governor Abbott's Plan.

Federal level elected officials have had more than enough time to prove that they suck.

Just my opinion.

originally posted by: luthier
Thats why I said talk to the public about it.

I agree that it should be done, I do not know how effective it will be.

originally posted by: butcherguy
Trump is a rich buffoon.
Sanders is a head in the clouds idealist.

There is one thing that I can truly get behind right now....
Texas Governor Abbott's Plan.

Federal level elected officials have had more than enough time to prove that they suck.

Just my opinion.

This may be a genetic fallacy bit abbott is an idiot and a criminal. He was a terrible ag and is a terrible gov. The guy buys into Alex Jones stuff on a regular basis.

a reply to: luthier
I didn't say I liked him!
I like the plan.

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: luthier
I didn't say I liked him!
I like the plan.

Sorry I had some dealings with the guy when I worked in Texas. My bad.

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: luthier
I didn't say I liked him!
I like the plan.

Sorry I had some dealings with the guy when I worked in Texas. My bad.

No, I appreciate that you bring it to light.
I don't know the man and don't follow Texas politics, so I am in the dark about him.

a reply to: UKTruth

Honestly, I hope that he does get the nomination, because I think it does two things:

1. It will put someone other than a progressive liberal in office (I don't think he could win the actual election), and

2. It might be the start of opening up a bigger piece of the voting pie for a third party like the Libertarians.

But in the end, I have lost faith that there is really that big of a difference between part candidates or the two main parties in general, so in the end, it probably doesn't matter who wins.