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originally posted by: vethumanbeing
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
originally posted by: vethumanbeing
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: vethumanbeing
Reality (to me) is what is real. I would say that for 'something' to be real it is constant.
The knowing aspect is constant but it cannot be known because it is knowing.
I do not know what "real" is. For instance; my dreaming or out of body is more real than my awake state. Its very confusing and profound. I am in a constant state of attempting to "know" what is real. I am becoming more in the awareness of "NOW", as all things other than NOW become mute.
No matter which state you are contemplating, that contemplation is happening now. You cannot 'become more' the 'awareness of now' - you have never been anything other - it just has to be recognized/realized.
Even when dreaming or out of body or awake - you are the knowing aspect (the awareness) knowing what is happening.
I am in becoming something of a state of being is all. Self described (me of many dimensional forms). I am certain it is or lies within my path to enlightenment; the quest. Its fun in that I have (will) did outsmart it already; as am already in knowing this purpose or reason for being to help others that may question their incarnation.
originally posted by: Joecroft
Your not supposed to be outsmarting it..lol. your meant to be seeking its guidance.
Joecroft: IT the Infinite Totality or AUO if you prefer...is outside time and space and sees ALL...it's what Jesus referred to as the Father...our reality is that of being its lower limited self I.e. the son/daughter of God. This is why Jesus said pray to your heavenly father...because he/it sees everything and can therefore help guide you within this reality.- JC
originally posted by: vethumanbeing
originally posted by: Joecroft
Your not supposed to be outsmarting it..lol. your meant to be seeking its guidance.
Where do think my guidance is coming from (the loudmouth snake oil salesman banging its drum standing on a soapbox 1800's style).
Joecroft: IT the Infinite Totality or AUO if you prefer...is outside time and space and sees ALL...it's what Jesus referred to as the Father...our reality is that of being its lower limited self I.e. the son/daughter of God. This is why Jesus said pray to your heavenly father...because he/it sees everything and can therefore help guide you within this reality.- JC
I think that father is your higher selves that drive your incarnation and guide you; the trick is to connect with them; have a channel or be able to communicate with them (they exist) and are worse than having finger shaking parents. I appreciate the beauty of that being known as Jesus you bring to discussions (who can argue with a perfect being); Daniel Webster or the Devil.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
the "infinite universe" idea would suggest there is an infinite number of absolutely everything.
if you are interested in grasping on a fundamental level your infinitesimal significance, the true nature of reality is your friend. if you are interested in pinpointing a meaningful aspect of your life and its consequences, the true nature of reality is irrelevant.
originally posted by: charlyv
The true nature of reality is that we create it by merely observing it.
The quantum effect dictates that the closer you observe any process, the more likely the probabilities that you will influence the outcome.
originally posted by: vethumanbeing
originally posted by: TzarChasm
the "infinite universe" idea would suggest there is an infinite number of absolutely everything.
if you are interested in grasping on a fundamental level your infinitesimal significance, the true nature of reality is your friend. if you are interested in pinpointing a meaningful aspect of your life and its consequences, the true nature of reality is irrelevant.
Infinite is not exclusionary; as includes your soul/spirit (no bounds drawn) perfect no exclusions if accepted so or in belief of. You and I recognize this significance; this reality as not real but a game we are playing to outsmart ourselves after incarnation. This was part of the incarnation contract; you on this planet must learn the lessons you wished to learn. Problem; (you have to remember them/the contract). I suggest this; if everyone understood this is just a game one plays with its own soul enlightenment would not be so hard upon oneself and taken less seriously; soften the impact of mortality/death *you might get another chance* at living as a human (get it right you move off the horrible Karmic Wheel).
originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: vethumanbeing
if someone is living to be "enlightened" that tells me they don't appreciate what they already have.